stMjMNES1:First Blood

"What a stupid name for a capital of a great empire." - general Pontius said, shaking his head - "We must rename it."

"Indeed." - said his advisor - "The priests suggest..."

"To hell with it! I change my mind - we must destroy it! Carthago Delenda Est, as Latins say."

"Hmm?"

"Hmm? What are you talking about - this isn't Carthage."

"Carthage? What does Carthage have to do with it?"

"Carthago. It means Carthage."

"Ah. Why the hell do the sl-... the Latins want to destroy Carthage?"

"Who the hell knows. Well, lets continue the operation. Delenda Est... uh... how in Aitta's name is this city called in Latin?"

"We didn't come up with that yet." - a Latin, who also happened to be this army's mascot, walked in.

"Damnit! Whip this sl-... this Latin until he translates the name of the city of _____ into his language!"

"Are you sure..."

"Absolutely! What Umbrian general had ever stormed an enemy capital without knowing its name in Latin?!"

The general's qualms were quite justified, as no Umbrian general had ever stormed an enemy capital at all, or at least as far as he knew it.
 
BT Update 2 350 BC

Here we go..

Britain'
Shortly after the English emerged on the top of the Three British kingdoms, they begin to hit some problems. Firstly, many people wern't really happy with the current rulers, with their extravagant counqerings and forgettings of the people. That ruling family was over thrown. Not that it changed much... After, a few succesful campaigns were launched into central england, and to subdue a large enemy in Wales. Then they ran into Gotland's rather large colony on *their* island! They didnt like this, but the Scottish gave them a far more bigger problem, and thus the Gotlanders where largely forgotten.

The Scotts, or Gaels, as they include parts of Ireland as well, are staunchly against English rule (suprise suprise). They have managed to stop England from landing in Ireland altogether, and from taking Scotland proper. It is a mystery as to what the English king will do next...

Gotland
Theese people have ballooned in size quite alot, almost tripling their holdings in most directions. They have also sailed very far west from their little rock in the sea, establishing a colony on Britain. This colony wouldnt be possilble without a little island outside of Denmark, which is the sole source of outside supplies for the large British colony. Also the Ivalians have taken most of mainland Denmark, and threaten the ever so important island with supplys the Gotlander British colony...

Carthage
What a long history Carthage has had in the past 600 years.

To begin with, the early period called "The Punic Diasters" In which 2 fires consumed most of Carthage the city, and a vicious war between the Umbarians and Calbrians against the Carthiginans. More on this war? Sure Thing!

It war over Spain, as quite a few things are you will see. Anyways, the Calabrians finally realized how small their peice of Spain might be, if they didnt act..

Without warning, a large detatchment of Calabrian crack troops crossed the Ebro and took the important city of Seguntum on the other side. The Carthiginians heard of this and sailed up the river Ebro and took the Calabrian supply city. All seem lossed for the rather large and isolated Calabrian attack force, if Umbar hadn't come.

Umbar was a Calabrian freind, for a while at least. They came with their navy, much better than a Calabrian one, and attacked the Carthiginians. Even though the Carthiginians were outnumbered on the sea and land, they held out until the Dragon Guard and Numidian Mercanaries came, then the Calabrian-Umbarian duo suffered a total defeat. All land south of the Ebro was ceded to Carthage and any claims were as well. Also the islands of Sardinia, and Corsica were ceded to the Carthiginians. Although this may seem to be great at the time, it showed the millitary might of Umbar as a player on the Mediterranaen stage.

Also, about 100 or so years after the first Punic War, the Numidian revolt happened. The Numdiains, egged on by their new imperilstic leader at home, killed Carthiginan soilders asleep while in the barracks, side by side with them. Many soilders died, including Emperor Nohamma II. Although not all was bad, about a third of the Numidian army, was trapped in Spain and destroyed by a young Carthiginan general named Hane.

In 657 BC, the Carthiginan and Numidian armies met a mere 50 miles outside of Carthage and did a glourious battle. In the end, the Carthignians won, if only by a silver. The Numidians demanded all of Morroco proper, and seeing as they threatened Libya, they had no option but to cede Morroco proper to the Numdian Monarchy.

If all this wasnt enough, quite some time later, aurond 420 BC the Umbarians launched an invasion of their own, seperate from Calabria. Because Carthiginian galleys hadnt been used in so long, and had been neglected, the Umbarians won a string of victories, and took Corsica and half of Sardinia in a peace treaty.

Not all is bad though, Carthage has almost all of Spain under its control, and some development can make it a truly great land.....

Calabria
Calabria has also had a quite colorful history..

Firstly, almost immediatly before the Punic Diasters, the Umbarians and Calabrians had signed a secret alliance, to take down Carthage. Which didnt work, and left Calabria in some what of a dark age. The navy was in shambles, so trade was slow. Also the Umbarians were becoming increasingly hostile after their attack against Carthage failed towards Calabria. In 732BC, the Calabrians striked first, destroying the Umbarians on land, because even now they still had an elite land millitary. Then Italy was finally split, in which the Calabrians got a heftier peice.

After theese string of wars, the Calabrians decided to go North into Illyria, a race against the Umbarians for prime land opposite of Italy. Some skirmishes, not backed by the government of their nations, ensued, but were ended quickly. A quick campaign against the weak Dalmations beared fruitful results, and even though their island empire is a thing of the past, they still have an extensive Greek one.

Umbar
Umbar has grown to be one of the strongest powers in the Medditeranean through war and betrayal.

Firstly, while being one of the main ingredients of the Punic Diasters, they also contributed to Calabria's fall from dominance. After the 1st Punic war, the Umbarians raced through Illyria, taking all they could. Also they tried to divert trade to a trade hub called Rome. As if this wasnt enough ingredients to mess with Carthage and Calabria, they begin building a fearsome navy, only comparable to Carthage. They were also the victors of the 2nd Punic war, robbing all hope of Calabria getting Corsica or Sardinia back, as well as Carthage. Currently their navy is quite large and trade is prosperous, although Alraidia in the West is rather disconcerning, as they are running out of free space...

Vandals
The Vandals haven't had quite as much as a history as Calabria or Carthage, but it did have some intresting happenings nonetheless. It expanded greatly in almost all directions, and finally came into contact with the civilized peoples in South, when this happened, a big problem insued.

The Vandal nobles got together and thought of whether to modernize so to speak, and become more like the Mediterranaean people, or to keep their old ways. Most Vandal nobles excepted and embraced the change, but a few didnt. They wernt going down quietly. They rounded up close to a thousand supporters and burned down the capitol and ransacked the countryside. With the help of Umbar, their main benefactor, they destroyed this Rebel army, but it taught them not to underestimate the other side...

Byzantium and Athens
Byzantium and Athens has had quite a similar happenings to say, Carthage, but with much differnt results.

Byzantium began the new century of 900BC with a grand celebration. Parties, cheerings and parades where common. The Byzantine Empire was rich and prosperous, and had quite alot of land. This wasnt to last.

In 843 BC a large scale rebellion took place in Athenian and Byzantine-held Turkey. This was a very well planned one, being in development ever since a large group of disgruntled Athenian and Byzantine millitary men took control of Tabriz, a city in Southern Turkey. A joint force of Athenians and Byzantines numberind 2000 troops strong, went down to Tabriz to restore peace and harmony in Turkey. While on their way though grave news had struck.

Within a week of eachother, Emperor Julius of Byzantium and King Hiram the Great were assassinated. Also another rebellion, identical to the Tabrizian one happened in Lira. Now this grand army was surronded. Although they broke through the surronding, they returned to their homelands to find them in complete political strife. To top it off, the rebellion was back in full swing in less than a year, and the problems with the rulers wasnt sorted. The Lucans, as they called themselves, had mustered almost a thousand troops. They demanded all of Athenian Turkey, and most of Byzantine Turkey. They refused at first, but when two spereate armies from both nations were slaughtered, they gave in.The Lucan empire is much larger than both Athens and Byzantium now, and has stripped Athens of all of its colonies besides newly gained Crete. It is ready for expansion and the overstrecthed Rasitean empire looks nice...

Phoenicia and Egypt
Egypt to begin with is huge, and is in the middle of a Golden Age. With a humongeous army and land to boot, and a decent sized navy with good leadership, they are ready to go counqering. Cryrencia better watch out...

Phoniceans attacked Rasit in 911BC, and failed. Their army wasnt strong compared to Rasit, although when they retreated to their cities the Rasiteans had a tough time considering they arent the best at seiges. They held out and only lost a little of Phoenicia proper. The Red Sea Coast has been settled to compete with Egyptian trade that way.

Babylon and Rasit and Persia and Qatar
Babylon expanded greatly in the 800s, but then suddenly stopped most likely because of internal problems. Their had been a feud between the king and his nobles for a number of years now. It exploded into a civil war in the 700s. This was ferocious and drawn out, both countries exsisting sperately for about 300 years. Then the great Babylonian general Hammurbai reunited Babylon. It isnt quite as big as the huge empire it had hundreds of years ago, and the infrastrutre is in desperate need of repair and rebuilding. It is united and is still a fearsome nation.

Rasit had countered the invasion Phoenicia did to them with a semi-succesful one of their own. It failed to take Tyre and Inner Phonecia, but took most of Northern Phoniecia and gave them a border to the Meddidteranen sea.

Persia expanded greatly as well. Their armies have lost some of their splendor and their palaces less shiny, but their roads still extend to the corners of the known world but they are still great nonetheless.

Qatar is green.

Ill do the rest tonight folks.

India
Shortly after the Tharian capitol was taken,the Southern parts of their empire split into many warring factions. The Massagetes would of easily picked them off, but serious rebellings swallowing up their ancestral homelands where threatening. Most of the army sprinted back to the capitol while a thin garrison was left.

When they returned they found that their homeland was in complete strife. The farms were burned, the capitol seiged, and few people had support for the army. After aurond a 100 years or so of complete disorder in the area, Souther Tharian India was united and the internal rebellions were over, though there was rumored to be about 1500 souls left in the army to defend this large area. A large majority led a succesful coup in India, letting go of their old ways and taking on the way of the people they counqered, much like China.

The Massagete homeland is united under a traditional tribal leader and has a renewed strength, maybe ready to strike into India again and seize it from their long lost brothers?

The Thrapian Empire has expanded to include most of old Mumbai, Western Tharia, and some lands never before counqered by civilized peoples. They are at peace with the Massagets but they burn for revenge.

The Massagete Indian Empire (called Harrappa) has let go of the old ways and rule a vast rich land of Guntra, Northern Tharia and western India. They have alot of wealth if they can fix the infrastructre destroyed by so much war.

White Wolves and China
The White Wolves continued to plunge into China but then internal problems began to develop. The Qi organzied large scale rebellions which succedded in stopping the campaign into Yue lands. Coupled with home rebellions, they had a problem on their hands.

The Qi rebellions overthrew the paper thin garrisons and entrenched themselves in their cities. More and more tribes rebelled up North. In 936 BC, the tribe which controled Karakorum, the capitol area, attacked the rebellers, and with good success took back quite a bit of land. But with news of the defeat of the horse warriors at
Tsing-tsao and the Yue recovering and begining to counter attack, things looked grim. Then a brilliat stragetist, Terakama, devised a plan. His plan called to strike down all 3 threats. And it worked.

He told his men to use short bows, to even increase their mobility more. The key was speed, they were everywhere at once, even if spread thin. They negoiated with the Yue into taking a small corner of China. The Qi fled to Yue, to live with other civilized peoples, and the Northern Rebellions took control of the northern useless land while the other fighting White Wolves got most of China.

It is much later now and the Massagete held China is slowly becoming more like the people they counqered, though much of China has been abadoned with almost 2 million people dying in all theese wars, poulation dropped severely and parts of China were left. People left the outer lands to live by the rivers and coasts. The Massagetes up North still retain there old ways, though a tad more wealthier from all the war. The Yue/Qi are now just called Yue and have repaired there land some, but are still weary of war.

Mekaia
The Mekaians had some internal issues near the end of the century of 9 hundred BC. They had serious infrastructrial problems, and the poor laborers demanded more land seeing as there was an extreme low amount of people for the size. Then in 634 BC, a population boom resulted from an extremely good crap that entire year. Trade centers began to pop up on the route to Hong Kong, trading with them paper, metals, jewlery, and surplus foods. Trade Centers began to sprout and people began living in cities. For once, a majority of people wern't farming, but living in cities making manufactured goods. They have an extremely well off Infrastructre now and as a result of better roads and more wealth, they have a better quality of life.
 
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*glares at das*

I truely regret Erik Mesoy leaving... DELENDA ES ROMA! :lol:
 
What the <snip> happened?! I did not order a war on Carthage, I ordered a war on Tuscia. I also did nto order a <snip> war on Umbar. This is really <snip> me off. I should of known you would take me down.

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Israelite9191 said:
What the f*cking hell happened?! I did not order a war on Carthage, I ordered a war on Tuscia. I also did nto order a f*cking war on Umbar. This is really p*ssing me off. I should of known you would take me down.

We have NO control during the BTs. You did get a war on Tuscia which Italy was divided into halves. U didn't order a war on Umbar but Umbar attacked you.

If I were in control during the BT I wouldn't have lost to the numidians, or umbar...
 
<snip> happens.

Yes, I added that snip. But it looks better than asterisks. And it makes it look like you actually had the guts to say something you shouldn't with the moderators around.
 
Israelite9191 said:
What the <snip> happened?! I did not order a war on Carthage, I ordered a war on Tuscia. I also did nto order a <snip> war on Umbar. This is really <snip> me off. I should of known you would take me down.

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Woah man, calm down. Firstly its only a game.

Secondly, you did not have control over this BT as already stated quite some times. This is indeed the BT update, and the IT update will follow suit sometime soon. Im sorry you dont like how I mod, you may leave. Im not stopping you, but if you did, it is really childish and pouty of you. Because you may not be doing the greatest in a game you begin to cuss at me? :lol:

Id love if you would calm down and stay in the game, your irrationalnatiolty is really misplaced im afraid.
 
Wasn't a last IT update supposed to come BEFORE this BT?
 
I quit this nes, not due to poor modding but simply due to lack of time.
 
NEW UU: Val' shecks
The vandals have modernised their country. As army is as much part of the country as anything else. These new soldiers have short range bows and axes, when they march in ranks, they fire in sincronisation, then advance, then fire. If the enemy charges, They rely on their armor, and solid defense to beat them.
 
Sorry MjM, I kind of over reacted, as you know. I was fully aware that we would not be able to control our nations during the BT, I just did not expect to have my foreign policy turned completely around with wars declared on both of my allies. However, I do not plan to leave. I guess it was an interesting curve ball, could prove for some interesting situations.
 
Israelite9191 said:
Sorry MjM, I kind of over reacted, as you know. I was fully aware that we would not be able to control our nations during the BT, I just did not expect to have my foreign policy turned completely around with wars declared on both of my allies. However, I do not plan to leave. I guess it was an interesting curve ball, could prove for some interesting situations.

Perhaps a cookie would make you fell better. Or maybe an extended explanation.

You needed some new land (Illyria wasnt an option much in the 900s) and since you gave almost all of Spain to Carthage, you decided it wasnt enough. Of course you were allies, but the need to grow happens sometimes. Anyways, they were exceptionally strong then and Umbar was your ally, so they jumped into the fray, and although their elite troops were winning a tad, you and Umbar didnt have much of a chance, Umbar lost alot of their army in a seeming waste. They began to think it may be easier to strike you seeing as the Carthignians obliverated most of your navy, they did and took your island possesions, though you gained some ground in the middle of Italy. Things have been shaky since then, and Illyria is becoming a problem as to who gets what.
 
I want a more detailed explanation for what happened to Carthage too! :(
 
Um, I'm the Clan of the White Wolf (Northern Steppe warriors if you prefer), not the Massagetes. I believe the Massagetes are persian warrior horse culture led by Grandmaster.
 
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