stNNES7: Worlds and Empires

proove it- I've written a great deal on the culture of ravenna distinguishing it, and in particuler, its unique politics out from any other nation; though as far i know, all the players in the roient have only written stories about concited rulers with thier thier grand troubles of being borne to rule a nation and th eproblems that they face, oh what a sham eit is to be born to rule! *cough* *cough*

My government is unique aswell! , although I dont write stories....

Although my ruler probably is the most concieted - he thinks himself a prophet...
 
In short, these few turns *could* be the crucial, pivotal point of Chinese history in this NES.

Isn't every turn crucial and pivotal, in a sense? ;)

I agree with Cuiv - its very hard to keep China divided, geographically its just too easy to unite it. As for the Vietnamese/Polynesians/whatever... Xen, there are many, many Fenno-Ugrians in northern Russia. Some of them are separatist. There also are Sorbs in eastern Germany.

Yet none of them prevented Russia and Germany from not just taking over them but also assimilating them to a large extent, with small non-assimilated groups being reduced to complete irrelevance.
 
The Politics of France

Full and absolute monarchy? Nu, it would be very difficult to rule such a Kingdom as France with absolute and nondiscretionary power.

But the King of France is the overrall commander in chief of very aspect of the French state. But, he is guided by a Grandiose Conseiller, Grand Advisor, a man elected by majority through the Conseil Royal, or the Royal Council. This council is made up of a dozen men, of the most enlightened and loved men. They take their position being the most wealthy man of one of the top twelve wealthiest provinces.

The Grandiose Conseiller has many responsibilities, mostly which include the running of the country while the King is away at war. But it also includes advising the King, if his excellency should ever have a question. The Grandiose Conseiller is one of the Conseil Royal, and is is quite intellegent. The Grandiose Conseiller also has the privilage of ruling as king, should the heir not be a man yet, if he under fifteen years of age.

The position of the Grandiose Conseiller is a life-long position. Should he die, though, his son will not inherit his position. It is not hereditary. Once the Grandiose Conseiller dies, the Conseil Royal must elect a new man.

These two positions, the Conseil Royal and its Grandiose Conseiller, are ignored by the peasantry and lower class masses, as they are usually uneffected by them. However, to the upper class nobility, they are the one glimpse of some sort of power, the politics to be talked about during their morning horse ride in the estate.

Over all, the King, however, has ultimate power. If someone in the Conseil Royal foolishly decides to speak out against the King, or if his own Grandiose Conseiller acts independently, then the King has the absolute power to have that person jailed, tortured, or even killed. So, after all the legal processes and semi-shared power, the King afterall has the power of, you said it, a King.
 
That's nice, Jason, but you have other duties that you seem to be neglecting. ;)
 
das said:
Isn't every turn crucial and pivotal, in a sense? ;)

I agree with Cuiv - its very hard to keep China divided, geographically its just too easy to unite it. As for the Vietnamese/Polynesians/whatever... Xen, there are many, many Fenno-Ugrians in northern Russia. Some of them are separatist. There also are Sorbs in eastern Germany.

Yet none of them prevented Russia and Germany from not just taking over them but also assimilating them to a large extent, with small non-assimilated groups being reduced to complete irrelevance.

If it was so easy to conqore, it wouldnt have taken centuries to bring together; the actual geography matters very little- its the common culture that the ancient chinese very bloodilyl spread to all the peoples around them that created the true means for eventual "unifacation" where bloody autcrats woudl rule with an iron fist- not that it was any different in most other areas of the world (west included for those who think i am of dubious intent)

however, obviouslly this history dose not comply; thier are significant culture "minorities " (and by "minority" I mean, as in most instances of the word mean overhwelming local majorities- but just that- localized- but still very significant in number in those areas) and Chinese culutre- however it has so developed to be in this NEs still has some regional differences that coudl easilly cause problems in further unifacation efforts.
 
Xen said:
If it was so easy to conqore, it wouldnt have taken centuries to bring together; the actual geography matters very little- its the common culture that the ancient chinese very bloodilyl spread to all the peoples around them that created the true means for eventual "unifacation" where bloody autcrats woudl rule with an iron fist- not that it was any different in most other areas of the world (west included for those who think i am of dubious intent)

You'd have a difficult time convnincing Jared Diamond.
 
North King said:
You'd have a difficult time convnincing Jared Diamond.

and likewise, Jared woudl have a hard tiem convicing anyone who botherd to look at chinese pre-history.
 
Xen said:
and likewise, Jared woudl have a hard tiem convicing anyone who botherd to look at chinese pre-history.

*yawns and looks at xen* considering that Chinese pre-history never occurred in this nes even if it happened in rl, you have even less reason for calling China to be seperate. The minute differences you claim that are so major by any typical WESTERN standard that would allow China to keep seperated, are nothing to Any Asians.

Anyways, autocrats are good ;)
 
Xen said:
and likewise, Jared woudl have a hard tiem convicing anyone who botherd to look at chinese pre-history.

Um... No. Read his book, it's quite good. ;) Though it does fail to explain why the West advanced ahead of India and China.
 
Fifthed! (whatever)
 
You are?...(checks) You're in danger of being NPCed if no orders are sent...as Dubai...That's a nice place. Aren't they dredging some land in the shape of palm trees, and a world map, for residential housing?
 
North King said:
Um... No. Read his book, it's quite good. ;) Though it does fail to explain why the West advanced ahead of India and China.

Read Promises Not Kept then, and you will see that it was capitalism which fueled western technology past India and China.
 
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