Stop confusing Iraqis with terrorists!!!

[Red Stranger]

Time and again I've seen people claim that we're targetting Iraqis and that they're worse off now because of American presence. Let me make it very clear that we're not targetting Iraqis. We're targetting terrorists that may be of Iraqi nationality. Frankly, I think it's racist to say that we're targetting Iraqis, because that assumes that Iraqis are terrorists.
Repeat after me. "We're targetting terrorists, not Iraqis. Not all Iraqis are terrorits."

 

[GenMarshall]

I dont know what they are! They all the same to me, American Hating Fundies who dont want us there.

 

[The Yankee]

Repeat after me. "We're targetting terrorists, not Iraqis. Not all Iraqis are terrorits."

Great! Now let's start with media people not confusing Sunni insurgents with the terrorists we want to fight.

 

[Tenochtitlan]

I dont know what they are! They all the same to me, American Hating Fundies who dont want us there.

Maybe you should stop your hate first

 

[GenMarshall]

Maybe you should stop your hate first

What hate? I dont have any hate in me. I am just confused on how to tell them apart .

 

[Red Stranger]

What hate? I dont have any hate in me. I am just confused on how to tell them apart .

Those shooting at us = terrorists.
Those bringing us soup = Iraqi citizens

 

[YNCS]

Repeat after me. "We're targetting terrorists, not Iraqis. Not all Iraqis are terrorits."

You're quite right, not all Iraqis are terrorists. Just as not all terrorists are Iraqis. But that's not to say that there aren't a noticeable number of Iraqis who are terrorists.

 

[blackheart]

Those shooting at us = terrorists.
Those bringing us soup = Iraqi citizens

. What about those doing neither?

That's a bit oversimplified.

Those shooting at us who are Iraqis = Insurgents who want America out

Those shooting at us who aren't Iraqis = Foreign terrorists set to destabilize the country

Those shooting at other Iraqis = militiamen set to carve up their own territory

Those who bring us soup = paid contractors they give our troops three flavors of ice cream

 

[Ramius75]

Those shooting at us = terrorists.
Those bringing us soup = Iraqi citizens

Something with arsenic in it ?? The US soldiers probaby gun down anyone approaching. Scare of suicide bombers...

 

[Gr3yL3gion]

Well, they are freedom fighters to me.

 

[puglover]

Something with arsenic in it ?? The US soldiers probaby gun down anyone approaching. Scare of suicide bombers...

How do you know how American troops are behaving? Have you been to Iraq? Neither have I.

 

[Ramius75]

How do you know how American troops are behaving? Have you been to Iraq? Neither have I.

No idea, thats the problem, the media is limited, 2 medias are bias, the western and those from Arabia.

Thou i try not to read from al jezerra, even the western media are giving me the impression that most USA troops probably shoots ppl getting close to them.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article3466.htm

9 April : Between 50 to 100 civilians were killed on Highway 8, outside Baghdad, when American troops countered an ambush by Iraqi Republican Guards on a highway with a lot of civilian traffic. "I have got to protect my soldiers," the U.S. commander justified the firing on civilian cars, "because we don't know if it's a car-load of explosives or RPGs." (Robert Fisk "We're here to fight the regime, not civilians, but I had to save my men" The Independent, 11 April 2003)

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2005-04-27-marine_x.htm?csp=34

Witness: No reason for comrade to shoot two Iraqis

there are probably more such reports everywhere.

 

[bhsup]

Those shooting at us = terrorists.
Those bringing us soup = Iraqi citizens

Excuse me? I'd call those shooting at troops something like rebels, guerillas, partisans, and so forth. If you've no evidence that they are doing anything but shooting at troops, then how can they possibly deserve the label terrorist? Mind you, in a way it is moot in the end since we need to defeat those as well as the terrorists, but...oh pooh, I could ramble about this for ages. You all know what I mean.

 

[Irish Caesar]

Oversimplification. I abstain.

 

[Bluemofia]

I simply refer the Iraqis as as neo-Babylonians, and credit them with the invention of the 7 day week (IIRC).

The terrorists are non-civers.

 

[Erik Mesoy]

I'd like to point out that it's your side, Red Stranger, i.e. the damn fascist conservatives (and if you don't like that, beg them to stop saying pinko communist liberals) who have been confusing Iraqis with terrorists first, most notably those who think that we struck at Iraq because Iraq attacked the USA on 11 September.

 

[Samson]

Those shooting at us = terrorists

I think this is the root of so much of problems in perception.

It used to be that every one knew and agreed what a terrorist was. It was one of those people who blew up planes in some desert airstrip somewhere.

Now a certain group of people have a) demonised terrorists beyond redemption and b) increased the group to cover many people who oppose them. This allows them to use methods that are generally considered unacceptable without being too horified.

There is another group that sees this creaping demonisation of the population as a threat. This can lead them to see the first group as "the enemy" to some extent, because they are being threatened by them.

Now you have 2 groups that previously would have little problem with each other are diametrically opposed on a critical issue of sociaty, and at least one group is willing to use violence (hint, I am thinking of the first group). This is mostly generated by the fear instilled by the terroist attacks, the subsequent demonisation of these (IMO this is greater than the first) and by laws brought in because of them. This divition of society is a very bad thing (TM) and shoudl have been quite avoidable. I suspect it is intentional.

Sorry, rant over, thanks for listening.

 

[aaglo]

If the USA government stops confusing Iraqis with terrorists, then who will be next (they'll be confusing as being terrorists)?

I know, it's all so confusing for the regime at USA...

 

[Dreadnought]

In the military field, sometimes its difficult to tell them apart......

 

[HawkeyeGS]

The terrorists are targeting us, we in turn target the Iraqis. It's a very logical conclusion well-documented behind the blacked-out white house reports. Right there in black and err black.