Succession Game for Newbies

[Tad Empire_0_o]

if you look at our contenent it looks like fingers around a broken axe (byz, & China lands) if you look at it slanted

 

[Kumquat]

I played a few turn but I do not want play anymore I am not having fun I am builder and this game is driving me nuts! It is so...so...SO MESSY I am quitting while I have my sanity sorry guys

 

[Tad Empire_0_o]

ok kumquat o well, I understand I hope we will make this one to the end , so I guess that means othneil is up, hope his here today , we only need to conquer about 1/3 of the other contenent to get a domination vic

 

[TheOverseer714]

Sorry to hear that you are leaving us, Kumquat, we will miss your input. I wish you could have stuck it out, but I understand. Sometimes leaving comfort zones can be difficult, as I had mostly been a builder myself, I also am still getting used to many aspects of these methods. Thanks for playing, and if you want to try some other time, I will be doing more of these, I hope. So, I guess the lineup is this:

1. TheOverseer714-just played
2. Kumquat-dropped out
3. Othniel-up
4. Tad Empire-on deck
5. HyCrest-may need skipped again

 

[Othniel]

Hey guys, I'm back and available to play.

Sorry to hear about you leaving us, Kumquat. Thanks for playing outside of your comfort zone and giving a warmongering game a whirl. Maybe we can play a space race /culture game next time.

Our situation looks pretty good. I still need to look at the save , but I think I agree with pushing ahead to Steam Power since we are this far with the research.

I still plan on making a million cities on the edges, turning them into farms and making wealth. That should provide a nice boost and prevent us from needing to cash-rush temples much.

I'm not sure I like the idea of having Sun Tzu's to be honest. First of all, there should have been a team discussion before we built it, that's one thing. Secondly, the number of shields invested in a huge wonder like that can often be better used to make units and kill the enemy faster. In other words, it usually pays off a lot better to capture rather than build these wonders. I know that at Regent level we can pretty much build any wonder we want with impunity because the AI is so awful. But we are still running against the clock here if we want a good score.

Ok, enough said on that. I'll plan on playing tonight or tomorrow, once I get a chance. More to come later...

 

[Tad Empire_0_o]

sry for building Sun Tzu's I should of let the AI on the other contenent build it so that we can get baracks on the other conti, we can always switch to another wonder if you like

As to Kumquat, sry but I hope you lurk to see how the game ends

 

[TheOverseer714]

I went ahead with Sun Tzu's because the investment was already there, and the support for all of our barracks is about 30gpt. Besides, we could always change to Leonardo's.

 

[Kumquat]

As to Kumquat, sry but I hope you lurk to see how the game ends

Will do. I only quit because I was honestly getting stressed out
As a lurker I would suggest going for Leos because you have a lot of knights to upgrade

 

[Tad Empire_0_o]

Hey Othneil, are you done playing yet? its been 2 days & im getting itchy 2 play :MuSt... HAvE........ SaaaaaVe......(passes out)

 

[Othniel]

Sorry about the delay. Yep, it's been a couple of days, but I'm trying to fit playing in around having a vacation, so it's been tough. I should be done this afternoon. With a big empire like this, the turns take a lot longer...

 

[Othniel]

Ok, I had to quit after playing about 3 and 1/2 turns due to time constraints. Tad, you should probably play and then I'll resume my normal spot in the rotation for next time, provided we haven't finished the game by then...

Summary of Turnset:
Produced one leader and made an army. I kept the Army empty so that we can fill it with Cavalry. Make sure to only put two units in the army until we get it overseas so that we can make sure we will be able to transport it.

Researched Astronomy and started work on Military Tradition. I STRONGLY advocate just finishing Mil. Trad., then researching Navigation, and then finally just shut off research. We don't need more research to finish this game, it will just hinder us. We DON'T want to get Magnetism as that will make the GLH obsolete and cost our ships +1 movement

Met Spanish and found them to be ignorant.

Switched Sun Tzu's to Leo's in anticipate of mass upgrades to cavalry.

Cash-rushed numerous improvements and settlers. Built marketplaces and courthouses in reasonable spots in the core and wealth /workers everywhere else, for the most part.

Sold some useless temples and disbanded numerous units to keep unit support costs lower. Our knights, soon to be cavs, are way too much as it is to kill the last civs. We should just produce some cavs from here on out.

Built two harbors at ports where we will load up troops, so upgrade any galleys at those spots to caravels.

Note: I put a ton of units on go-to moves that you will need to cancel, or leave if you wish...it was more convenient with a large empire.

Ok, good luck, Tad, and I hope you continue to fill in our lands with settlers and get a fleet of caravels for transportations. Let's mop this thing up...

Oh, one more thing. I advocate not building any more wonders expect the Heroic Epic and possibly Magellans.

<<Here's>> the save...

and here's a very short turn-log.

Spoiler :

Pre-flight Check:
Notice we researched Astronomy without finishing Mil Tradition yet. Kinda strange... and once we get Mil Trad and an army, we can build the Military Academy, which is invaluable.

Also, we have a number of units --horseman, archers, etc.-- that could be upgraded and used, but are just sitting in useless MP or guard duty. We should not be having so many troops garrisoned in random, useless places around the map.

We are in a GA, and I can tell that there has not been much MM for exact shield production.

Many corrupt towns are building inprovements when they should just be building wealth.

We have tons of clowns--make them into taxmen or scientist for something useful.

Change tons of builds around, Build courthouses and marketplaces in relatively corrupt free locations to maximize the infrastructure growth from the GA. Change corrupt town builds to a mix of settlers, workers, aqueducts and wealth, with a few temples and harbors for growth.

We’re paying way too much in unit support and have too many troops that aren’t needed. I’m going to disband all artillery and pikes, as well as some MDI. We have enough knights, and once we get cavs, we’ll still thoroughly whip the AI.

I don’t want to research paste Navigation and Mil Tradition. It would be useless. Better to store up cash for rushing units and improvements. We should NOT research Magnetism because that would make the GLH obsolete and our ships would move slower.

Why do we have a stack of 18!!! Workers near Tours? This is wasteful.

MM all cities &#61514;

Turn 1 &#61664;520AD

Battle against London
e MDI vs r spear &#61664; MDI wins (2/5) and produces a LEADER (wow, first battle for this turnset, too.) Leader makes an army, but left unfilled for Cavalry…

I’m not going to record battles for the rest of this turn-log, its too tedious at this point.

Burned one more English city and moved troops into position for the final blows.

I’m setting up two gathering spots for our troops for transport to the other landmasses. It should be pretty obvious where… &#61514; The spots are near The Wave in the extreme southeast and near Tad’s Homeland Security in the extreme west.

Provided we adequately fill in our home continent, we will be very near to the domination limit even without further attacks…

I’ve continued to disband numerous units, even vet MDI because we will never need them. With our knight forces, we are already paying too much in unit support compared to our needs.

IBT
zzz


Turn 2 &#61664;530AD
MM all cities

Move troops, cash-rush some stuff, build more cities.

Unit support cost lowered to 44gpt. Some clowns were hired so I could lower the lux by 10% and save 100+ gpt.

See light blue borders with suicide galley, hopefully it won’t sink…

IBT
Zzz

Yeah, neither suicide galley sunk… &#61514;

Turn 3 &#61664;540AD
Meet Isabella of the Spanish. She is just arriving into the Middle Ages.
Our other suicide galley spots coastal tiles to the northeast

MM cities, yada yada yada. England is down to 4 cities.

Finish Astronomy and begin work on Military Tradition.

IBT
zzz

Turn 4 &#61664;550AD
Attack more English…

MM cities and build more cities, again yada yada yada.

Sorry, no pics at the moment...

 

[Tad Empire_0_o]

er othneil wheres the save?

 

[Kumquat]

You did MM on your vacation Whats wrong with you

 

[Kumquat]

Tad click on the <<Here's>> at the end of Othniels post ^_^

 

[Tad Empire_0_o]

I cant see it

Wahoo 100th Post

Ill start a war with spain as soon as we get MT, and a fleet of like 5 caravels because we can just ferry our units, we dont need them there all at once

Also, ide like to buy wold map from spain with a uselless tech like mono

 

[Tad Empire_0_o]

er I can't see it try reposting or some1 D/L the save than post it again for me THankz


Anyone there? , I wont be able to play tomorrow so if I dont get the save today, Hycrest should play

 

[TheOverseer714]

Hi Tad. I have downloaded the save and will repost it here, hope you can get it off of my post. I hope you get it and can play it tonight, as I am ready to get this round over. I think we are close to victory, so enjoy these last few turns.

 

[Tad Empire_0_o]

This is my got it I think I will finish tonight

 

[Tad Empire_0_o]

IBT-

Turn 1- Lots of moving units Take warwick

IBT-

Turn 2- Take Norwich- move lots of units I cash rush some caravels. MT comes in start Navigation, I want to buy map from spain before I start the bloodshed

IBT- English beg for Peace

Turn 3- Leo's is built, I upgrade 15 knights to cavs in The Wave.
Capture Brighton & English R Destroyed Wahoo!

IBT-

Turn 4- Unpgrade units, move units -the usual-

IBT-

Turn 5- in about 2 turns its time for war - Move units -The usual-

IBt- Get Navigation

Turn 6- get spain world map for republic- they in anarchy war next turn I belive, turn science 2 0&#37; we making 1000+ Gpt

IBT-

Turn 7- Meet Indians- Buy their world map Start war with Spain, land like 30 units ready to take out 2 cities

IBT-

Turn 8- Take Barcelona & Asturias- move units

Turn 9- Take Madrid & vicatora, & another city I forgot- move units

Turn 10- Take 2 more cities, ready 2 take 2 more next turn, left next player to move workers

 

[Tad Empire_0_o]

Pictures & save
http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/96353/A_SG_NewbiesThe_French_650AD.SAV

PS- I made many towns, I just didnt record them all