Suggestions and Requests

[ales_]

The Andean road was a thing you know.

I'm sorry. Well, two unhistorical goals then, while the usual "rule" is 1.

 

[Leoreth]

Is there a way to make DoC use the English settings when opened in another language instead of displaying that "nothingness"? (if you dont know what I mean set your civ-language to anything but English and load DoC)

I tried setting my civ4 to English, even made the ini-file read-only but it still sometimes switches language and since I dont go "civ4 -> load a mod -> DoC" but instead start by loading the 3000BC-DoC-scenario that means I have to exit Civ and then go through the "long way".
When I first downloaded DoC this behaviour (since my client wasnt set to English yet) made me abandon DoC and play other mods instead (because I didn't know I could fix it that easily).
So including some sort of override might not only be a quality-of-life-improvement for people like me who sometimes get their civ-language reset but also could help interested "newbies" to civ-mods get to play DoC

Yeah, that might be worth a look. Not sure if language settings are exposed to the DLL, but if it is I could always return English as language of choice regardless of config settings.

I'm sorry. Well, two unhistorical goals then, while the usual "rule" is 1.

There is no such rule. Also there isn't really an objective way to tell if the Inca had X gold in 1500 AD or anything. They sure had a lot of it.

 

[Chep]

[Request/Suggestion]

could you create a new, stickied thread here which is "Leoreth-only" and where you post the SVN changelogs instead of the discussion thread? especially during times when there is a lot of life on the forum these updates get quickly buried and some people might not notice them at all.

(ideally you'd also mark in bold red when a patch breaks continuity)

 

[Leoreth]

I guess that makes sense.

 

[agentxorange]

Polynesian UHV title suggestions anyone?

I was thinking -
1 - The Lapita Descendants (the precursors to the Polynesians, to represent the beginnings of their expansion over the Pacific) or The Oceanic Wayfinders or Oceanic Navigators
2 - The Polynesian Triangle
3 -Rano Raraku or The Monoliths for something a bit more general

 

[Leoreth]

Sounds good, was waiting for someone to make a suggestion

 

[Tigranes]

Will St. Peter's ever become Catholic Shrine?

 

[Leoreth]

You have to ask at least 20 times more.

 

[Imperator Knoedel]

Does it count as two questions when he says 'please'?

 

[Leoreth]

Never!

 

[agentxorange]

I liked the idea of merging UHVs 2 and 3 for Polynesia. Maybe a cultural goal for the 3rd? (Highest culture output, certain number of cities with X culture output). That would definitely represent the vast spread of the Polynesian culture and the importance of it to them.

 

[Leoreth]

Actually my idea was to merge the first two girls, since they are already so similar.

 

[agentxorange]

That would work too. I was just thinking moving up the statues goal up so you get some use out of it's power (to build cultural buildings and the like).

 

[Leoreth]

I think the deadline is fine in any case.

 

[BenZL43]

Polynesia: Since both the 1st and 2nd UHV is historical, isn't it customary that 3rd UHV is usually less historical? I propose:

Be the first civilization that lands on South America

This goal is actually not alt-hist, just hasn't been accepted by mainstream archaeologist yet.
(Ergo this goal is not unrealistic, and being written in peer-reviewed journals, whatever written should be more accurate compared to Wikipedia or random blogs)

More explanation on the UHV proposal:
- Being the first civilization to reveal a map of at least 1 tile of South America, which means before Inca spawn
- There are more information is available regarding Chimu-Polynesia contact than Inca-Polynesia.
- You mentioned earlier that it is possible to reach SA by a city in Rapa Nui though it will require long time.

Some journals to solidify my proposal:
Polynesian and Oceanic Elements in the Chimu and Inca languages (by F. W. Christian, B.A.)
The bamboo raft as a key to the introduction of the sweet potato in prehistoric Polynesia (by Robert Langdon)
Easter Island – was it really so isolated? (by Edward Pegler)
The name of Sweet Potato: A case of pre-conquest contact between South America and the Pacific (by William F. H. Adelaar)
Radiocarbon and DNA evidence for a pre-Columbian introduction of Polynesian chickens to Chile (by Alice A. Storey, et.al.)
Was There pre-Columbian Contact between the Peoples of Oceania and South America? (by James Hornell)

There's a lot more but I hope these are sufficient already ^^ please consider.

 

[FinalLegendZero]

Polynesia: Since both the 1st and 2nd UHV is historical, isn't it customary that 3rd UHV is usually less historical? I propose:

Be the first civilization that lands on South America

This goal is actually not alt-hist, just hasn't been accepted by mainstream archaeologist yet. (Ergo this goal is not unrealistic)

More explanation on the UHV proposal:
- Being the first civilization to reveal a map of at least 1 tile of South America, which means before Inca spawn
- There are more information is available regarding Chimu-Polynesia contact than Inca-Polynesia.
- You mentioned earlier that it is possible to reach SA by a city in Rapa Nui though it will require long time.

Some journals to solidify my proposal:
Polynesian and Oceanic Elements in the Chimu and Inca languages (by F. W. Christian, B.A.)
The bamboo raft as a key to the introduction of the sweet potato in prehistoric Polynesia (by Robert Langdon)
Easter Island – was it really so isolated? (by Edward Pegler)
The name of Sweet Potato: A case of pre-conquest contact between South America and the Pacific (by William F. H. Adelaar)

This goal is unviable for two reasons.

First, it isn't possible to reach South America via Rapa Nui (or any other island) with the current 3-ring city radius cap.

Second, even were the map altered to allow for this, it is very likely that the Mayans would uncover a square of South America first.

 

[BenZL43]

This goal is unviable for two reasons.

First, it isn't possible to reach South America via Rapa Nui (or any other island) with the current 3-ring city radius cap.

Second, even were the map altered to allow for this, it is very likely that the Mayans would uncover a square of South America first.

How about define a new region: Andean plateau?
It is 2-3 tiles below Tucume to the Chile.
I haven't really analyze the revised map yet but I'll find out whether that will be possible.


edit: Looks like I misread Australia with South America in the v1.13 thread. Sorry about that :/
Though with this amount of journals, it is interesting if there's a late contact between Inca and Polynesia.
Polynesia shouldn't be counted as conqueror-triggering civilization tho.

 

[ozqar]

This goal is unviable for two reasons.

First, it isn't possible to reach South America via Rapa Nui (or any other island) with the current 3-ring city radius cap.

Second, even were the map altered to allow for this, it is very likely that the Mayans would uncover a square of South America first.

Actually, just playing earlier I managed this, perhaps before the Mayan spawn (I'm not sure though).

You just need the goody hut people in Rapa Nui to give you a map, and bam, you see it, South America. You just can't reach it, but you see it, which is what BenZL43 suggested.

 

[merijn_v1]

Easter Island should be covered with forest. It doesn't change the gameplay, because it is automatically chopped when you settle on it, but it's historically more accurate.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Easter_Island#First_settlers

In the Polynesia thread, a possible UHV is suggested to settle Madagaskar. Potential UHV?

 

[citis]

A slightly harder UHV for Polynesians:
*Polynesian explorers: Settle Marquesas and Hawaii by 800AD.
*Polynesian immigration: Control n island by 1000AD. (n=number of all settlable one-tile islands+australia+new zealand)
*Pacific wonders: Build Moai Statues by 1200AD.