Suggestions and Requests

[Grifguz]

Judaism could be widespread in the West and Middle East, just make it so no AI civ, barring a possible Jewish one in the future, converts to it.

 

[Genghis Khaiser]

I have seen how certain religions auto spread when a city is founded in their historical territory. For example, found cities in the Americas and two turns later they convert to Catholicism or Protestantism.

That way, I thought of a map for Judaism to spread, regardless of there being an existent religion:
-United States and especially the area around New York.
-The Netherlands, Central, Southeastern and especially Eastern Europe.
-The Black Sea.
-Southastern Mediterranean (the Levant, Syria and the Nile Delta).
-Morocco and Southern Spain.
-Rio de Janeiro, São Paulo and Argentina.
-Monterrey and Mexico City.
-Parts of Ethiopia.

And if they are persecuted somewhere, they flee to another place outside the civ that persecuted them, adding their religion and some extra population.

 

[Tlönitte]

If Judaism is only allowed to spread to cities which already host a religion, this should stop too many Civs adopting it

 

[ezzlar]

How about the old civilization mechanic that the maximum science/gold% etc is set by civics?

 

[migck]

The current mechanic is that if a religion spreads to a city with a pagan temple, and that religion is the state religion as well, the pagan temple gets replaced with that religion temple, right?
A minor request to expand on this, if the city is currently building a pagan temple or has accumulated production towards it, perhaps that amount of production, or completion progress %, could be transferred to the relevant temple as well, so that such an event is not so penalizing?

 

[IrishDragon]

A leaderhead for John A. Macdonald, first Prime Minister of Canada has been added.
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=24671

Might make a good leader for a vassal Canada

 

[Genghis Khaiser]

I feel like certain civs should have more technologies when spawning. For example, America should start with Democracy, while for some reason Mexico doesn't start with Nationalism and Democracy.

 

[Imperator Knoedel]

For example, America should start with Democracy

Once upon a time it did, but Leoreth thought it a good idea to change that in order to fulfill his 30% wrong quota.

 

[faustao]

I have seen how certain religions auto spread when a city is founded in their historical territory. For example, found cities in the Americas and two turns later they convert to Catholicism or Protestantism.

That way, I thought of a map for Judaism to spread, regardless of there being an existent religion:
-United States and especially the area around New York.
-The Netherlands, Central, Southeastern and especially Eastern Europe.
-The Black Sea.
-Southastern Mediterranean (the Levant, Syria and the Nile Delta).
-Morocco and Southern Spain.
-Rio de Janeiro, São Paulo and Argentina.
-Monterrey and Mexico City.
-Parts of Ethiopia.

And if they are persecuted somewhere, they flee to another place outside the civ that persecuted them, adding their religion and some extra population.

Judaism is actually very minor in Brazil. I've seen more muslims and even buddhists than jews in São Paulo through my life.
It should certainly also spread to parts of Siberia, by the way.

 

[Genghis Khaiser]

Yes, I forgot Siberia.

But last time I checked, Brazil had one of the two largest Jewish populations in Latin America, the other one being Argentina.

 

[civcivcivcivciv]

england tech speed is so fast

even canada is independanted

america germany japan can't follow them.

next version please change this

 

[Leoreth]

The current mechanic is that if a religion spreads to a city with a pagan temple, and that religion is the state religion as well, the pagan temple gets replaced with that religion temple, right?
A minor request to expand on this, if the city is currently building a pagan temple or has accumulated production towards it, perhaps that amount of production, or completion progress %, could be transferred to the relevant temple as well, so that such an event is not so penalizing?

That should be possible.

Have you put anymore thought into my suggestion, by any chance?

No, I need some time to actually try it out. Currently I'm doing other things.

 

[Publicola]

I submitted this proposal for the Rhye's and Fall of Europe mod, but I though it'd be equally well suited here.

I've been researching the period of the Crusades, and came across several references to Byzantine silk that I didn't understand. On looking it up, I discovered that around the year 550 AD, itinerant monks discovered in China how silk was produced, and later smuggled silkworm eggs or larvae out of Central Asia to be brought to be brought to Constantinople. The resulting silk production was in fact a critical part of the Byzantine economy from that time until the fall of Constantinople almost 1000 years later.

The Byzantine monopoly was ended during the Second Crusade around 1150 AD, when silk weavers were captured and brought to Sicily, spreading silk production and trade further into Western Europe. The same occurred during the Fourth Crusade (around 1200 AD) when Constantinople was sacked and the silk factories were brought to Venice and other cities in Italy.

All that is context for my suggested proposal:

1) Around the year 550 AD (or as close to 554 AD as the turn clock will allow), there should be a silk resource that appears either on the Constantinople tile or one of the tiles west of it (in Thrace).
2) Alternately, since silk was smuggled out of China and Central Asia, you could make this a quest that the Byzantine player always gets once contact is established with a silk-producing civ. Its effect would be like the 'Master Blacksmith' quest, but instead of a copper resource being auto-placed beneath the key city, it would be a silk resource. I don't know what the quest requirements would look like, though.
3) To reflect the spread of silk production to Italy, there should be another silk resource that appears in Sicily or southern Italy around 1147 AD. As above, this could be auto-placed, or it could be the result of a different quest, related to conquering a city in the Byzantine/former Greek core.

Either way, given the importance of silk in the Byzantine economy, it makes more historical sense for there to be silk production in Europe rather than requiring that any silk be brought by trade from central or eastern Asia.

 

[Imperator Knoedel]

You know, civ specific quests really sound like a good idea, and this could be one of them.

 

[2015]

Maybe just in the Byzantine empire (and I guess Turkey afterward). A silk resource in Italy seems like too much, it's just a free resource for any Western European civ.

 

[Publicola]

I really like the idea of each civ having its own Unique Quest (UQ), but that seems like an awful lot of work to implement.

Another idea that should get a similar effect with much less work would be adding it as a new mission to the espionage system. Spies could "steal a resource" from another country -- there'd need to be limits on what resources (only transportable ones would work, so silk would qualify while iron wouldn't, and it should be only a resource that you don't currently possess), and perhaps on timeline (so assigning that sort of mission would only be enabled after researching Commerce, or Paper).

Once the resource is 'stolen', you could either auto-place it beneath the player's largest city that is not located on top of a previous resource, or allow the player to place in on a resource-less tile around their capital.

 

[Imperator Knoedel]

I attached screenshots re resources suggestion. I went through painstaking research and only used the best scientific sources available to man (Wikipedia and/or something on the first page of a google search) in order to properly place them based on real life deposits.

As for the Netherlands, really I just want to put a single forest on the Amsterdam tile.

Also holy crap you don't realize just how distorted the ingame map is until you try cross referencing cities and resources in China.

 

[Auric]

Also holy crap you don't realize just how distorted the ingame map is until you try cross referencing cities and resources in China.

Agreed. I had noticed earlier that Scotland, the Balkans, Greece, Anatolia and China don't make much sense geographically and in terms of cities locations.

 

[Leoreth]

I like all of those suggestions. I trust your research and the strategic resources are much needed for the civs in those areas.

What's the specific purpose for forest on the Amsterdam tile?

In any case, if you could prepare a pull request for this that would be great.

 

[Imperator Knoedel]

What's the specific purpose for forest on the Amsterdam tile?

Well there was lots of forest in the Netherlands before it was all chopped down, I think some guy argued for it some weeks back.