SymNES II - Ash Like Snow
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For future reference, the Hit List of People Who Said They Were Interested, Have Not Yet Joined (Yet May Do So) Whom You Are Free to Hound if They Do Not, or HLPWSTWIHNYJYMDSWYAFHTDN:
- TerrisH
- Slavic Sioux
- Kal'thzar
- LittleBoots
- Azale
- ~Darkening~
- Luckymoose
- Justo
- Dachspmg
- carmen510
- Disenfrancised
- Niklas
LightFang and Swissempire have been excluded due to having joined and then having quit or disappeared, and Head Serf for apparently having left NESing. Once all state-breakup maps have been posted, collated, the results posted, and stats generated, there will be a one-week window before deadline. If after that time these people have not weighed in, or joined, you have my blessing to aggravate them.
Anyway, we have 6/10 maps with Chandrasekhar, Birdjaguar, North King and Fuschia remaining. Props to Origin Two for being the first three to get their maps in, you've redeemed yourselves for being the later order senders.
I am happy to start playing but I can't decide on any nation.
So Symph either you can choose a nation for me or some of the current players can recommend some nations they want played and I'll decide from there.
I don't want anything big just something that's average or small sized.
Fuschia
A Little Odd
I would appreciate a player to take control of Eiho'abanae'iegohae so the two major Alarkien nations can be filled. Anyone wondering if they want it should read some of my older stories and PM for background, as it is very important to playing IC.
Thlayli
Le Pétit Prince
I agree with Symphony. Nothing below dactylic hexameter is up to our standards! 
North King
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If you want an unusual, small, and rather nomadic nation, I'll probably have one or two of those available.
Speaking of which, Symphony, I'll hopefully have those in tonight, but no guarantees, as I am performing.
Symphony D.
Deity
Retroactive deletion.
jalapeno_dude
AKA Panda Judo Eel
I've generally been using the template you gave us in the old thread (with Societal Development/Entropy, Timeline, etc.)--it might make sense to repost that on the front page, as well as to modify it as we get into shorter turns with actual spending and the like.
It's pretty good right now; only thing I could think of would be a general description of technology at the moment (i.e. whether a given origin has bronze/iron, crop rotation, chariot/horses, pottery, writing, bricks, arches/domes, irrigation/aquaducts, etc.). I realize this varies from nation to nation, but I'd think the essentials (relating to war and agriculture) would be similar.
das
Regeneration In Process
It certainly would be, especially if and when said requirements grow more complex.
Aside from what jalapeno_dude said, I think the official names for celestial bodies and geographic locations would be most useful.
EDIT: And possibly whole glossaries, at least for terms used on a frequent basis (like the Irad), but that might be a bit too much. A timeline would naturally become useful as more time passes and as our history grows more detailed; not sure about right now.
Nylan
Characters Welcome
Yes, that is the largest thing keeping me from an outright "I'm in". As a prospective player, I would find this highly valuable.
Is my waiting approriate or should I be actually doing something?
Two of my states: Kalimaka and Kalioha are certainly open for new players to command.
Two of my states: Kalimaka and Kalioha are certainly open for new players to command.
Symphony D.
Deity
Retroactive deletion.
das
Regeneration In Process
It has now occurred to me that a basic example of what you expect, format-wise, would be very useful (especially for such sections that require our own descriptions of something, as with Progression, Society or Tenets).
Speaking of Tenets, that would seem to be the most unobvious part. Are we supposed to list ideals, or describe the dominant ideology, or both, or what?
Speaking of Tenets, that would seem to be the most unobvious part. Are we supposed to list ideals, or describe the dominant ideology, or both, or what?
jalapeno_dude
AKA Panda Judo Eel
Zhedai Ascendancy
Progression: Low Imperial / Advanced irrigation
Development: Less Developed /
Government: 90,000 / Despotic / hereditary monarchy, ruler is also general
Military: Strong / Weak; spearmen and galleys
Vitality: Growing / Growing
Society: Centered under a despot, then divided into three groups: military, priesthood, and farmers, each of which have their own hierarchies. Vestiges of tribal/caste system survive.
Values:
Tenets: expansion, honor, wealth
Overview: The Zhedai Ascendancy has, over the last hundred years, managed to establish control over the entire Dhide river, making it the most populous, and richest, Shaituhu state. Under a succession of war-oriented rulers, it has sought to expand its zone of control to the coast through conquest.
Sisai
Progression: Low Imperial / Advanced irrigation, developed astronomy
Development: Developing /
Government: 150,000 / Major cities / quadruple monarchies with power-sharing agreement
Military: Average / Strong; trained spearmen and early warships
Vitality: Stagnant / Strong
Society: Each major city is ruled by a despot who has sole power over the surrounding territory. Priesthood separate from other classes. Vestiges of tribal/caste system survive.
Values:
Tenets: honor, stability, duty
Overview: Sisai is a tight federation of four cities that controls a large swath of prime territory. Constant battles with the Pegi Rente states have given it an experienced army and advanced navy.
Dhauhai
Progression: Low Imperial / Advanced irrigation, monumental architecture, developed astronomy
Development: Developed /
Government: 40,000 / Tribal / aristocratic caste with assembly of patriarchs
Military: Pathetic / Weak; trained spearmen and merchant galleys
Vitality: Growing / Stagnant
Society: Ruled by aristocratic caste, rest of society has its occupation determined by caste, influential priesthood. Strict hierarchy of castes, not within them.
Values:
Tenets: wealth, glory, duty to the clan
Overview: Dhauhai is the only Shaituhu state that originated before the Great Collapse, and thus still has entirely clan-based organization. Dhauhai is also blessed by an outstanding natural defensive location, as well as being the main gateway between the western and eastern branches of Shaituhu civilization. It is caught between two much more powerful states.
Haitsu Principate
Progression: Low Imperial / Advanced irrigation, advanced navy, rudimentary bureaucracy
Development: Less Developed /
Government: 130,000 / Despotic / hereditary monarchy
Military: Colossal / Strong; spearmen and advanced warships
Vitality: Strong / Stagnant
Society: Strong despot represented by local bureaucrats. Strict hierarchy within settlements. Mandatory military service/forced labor for adult males one out of every five years.
Values:
Tenets: power, expansion, land
Overview: The Hiatsu Principate is an aggressively expansionist state that seeks new territory above all. After securing its place on the mainland it has aggressively been incorporating Shaituhu settlements across Lake Ningi through a combination of economic and military pressure (enforced by Haitsu control of entry and exit from the lake). The Principate is currently expanding to the east, but would not hesitate to move in the opposite direction if it saw an opportunity.
Dzixau Confederation
Progression: Low Imperial /
Development: Least Developed /
Government: 30,000/ Villages / confederation of city-states
Military: Average / Average; spearmen and warships
Vitality: Declining / Growing
Society: Organized within villages. Caste system survives to a great extent.
Values:
Tenets: peace, stability, expansion
Overview: The Dzixau Confederation is a relatively new entity created originally to resist incursions from the natives to the east and south, but which in recent years has found itself acting as a counterweight to Haitsu ambitions of further expansion. It is primarily concerned with preserving the security of its constituent populace.
Progression: Low Imperial / Advanced irrigation
Development: Less Developed /
Government: 90,000 / Despotic / hereditary monarchy, ruler is also general
Military: Strong / Weak; spearmen and galleys
Vitality: Growing / Growing
Society: Centered under a despot, then divided into three groups: military, priesthood, and farmers, each of which have their own hierarchies. Vestiges of tribal/caste system survive.
Values:
Spoiler :
Tenets: expansion, honor, wealth
Overview: The Zhedai Ascendancy has, over the last hundred years, managed to establish control over the entire Dhide river, making it the most populous, and richest, Shaituhu state. Under a succession of war-oriented rulers, it has sought to expand its zone of control to the coast through conquest.
Sisai
Progression: Low Imperial / Advanced irrigation, developed astronomy
Development: Developing /
Government: 150,000 / Major cities / quadruple monarchies with power-sharing agreement
Military: Average / Strong; trained spearmen and early warships
Vitality: Stagnant / Strong
Society: Each major city is ruled by a despot who has sole power over the surrounding territory. Priesthood separate from other classes. Vestiges of tribal/caste system survive.
Values:
Spoiler :
Tenets: honor, stability, duty
Overview: Sisai is a tight federation of four cities that controls a large swath of prime territory. Constant battles with the Pegi Rente states have given it an experienced army and advanced navy.
Dhauhai
Progression: Low Imperial / Advanced irrigation, monumental architecture, developed astronomy
Development: Developed /
Government: 40,000 / Tribal / aristocratic caste with assembly of patriarchs
Military: Pathetic / Weak; trained spearmen and merchant galleys
Vitality: Growing / Stagnant
Society: Ruled by aristocratic caste, rest of society has its occupation determined by caste, influential priesthood. Strict hierarchy of castes, not within them.
Values:
Spoiler :
Tenets: wealth, glory, duty to the clan
Overview: Dhauhai is the only Shaituhu state that originated before the Great Collapse, and thus still has entirely clan-based organization. Dhauhai is also blessed by an outstanding natural defensive location, as well as being the main gateway between the western and eastern branches of Shaituhu civilization. It is caught between two much more powerful states.
Haitsu Principate
Progression: Low Imperial / Advanced irrigation, advanced navy, rudimentary bureaucracy
Development: Less Developed /
Government: 130,000 / Despotic / hereditary monarchy
Military: Colossal / Strong; spearmen and advanced warships
Vitality: Strong / Stagnant
Society: Strong despot represented by local bureaucrats. Strict hierarchy within settlements. Mandatory military service/forced labor for adult males one out of every five years.
Values:
Spoiler :
Tenets: power, expansion, land
Overview: The Hiatsu Principate is an aggressively expansionist state that seeks new territory above all. After securing its place on the mainland it has aggressively been incorporating Shaituhu settlements across Lake Ningi through a combination of economic and military pressure (enforced by Haitsu control of entry and exit from the lake). The Principate is currently expanding to the east, but would not hesitate to move in the opposite direction if it saw an opportunity.
Dzixau Confederation
Progression: Low Imperial /
Development: Least Developed /
Government: 30,000/ Villages / confederation of city-states
Military: Average / Average; spearmen and warships
Vitality: Declining / Growing
Society: Organized within villages. Caste system survives to a great extent.
Values:
Spoiler :
Tenets: peace, stability, expansion
Overview: The Dzixau Confederation is a relatively new entity created originally to resist incursions from the natives to the east and south, but which in recent years has found itself acting as a counterweight to Haitsu ambitions of further expansion. It is primarily concerned with preserving the security of its constituent populace.
Spoiler the map, again :
Symphony D.
Deity
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jalapeno_dude
AKA Panda Judo Eel
I assume I'm correct in stating that the Shiatzu societies are in the Low Imperial world? If not, I'll need to rethink some things...
Symphony D.
Deity
Retroactive deletion.
jalapeno_dude
AKA Panda Judo Eel
...explain. Do you mean that you see the Dzixau Confederation being more advanced? Because from my point of view they're the least advanced society I detailed.
*is confused*
Symphony D.
Deity
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JosefStalinator
Я буду снова здесь
Lossalrion "Losol-(Bess)arion(dze)" (Orange)
Engopos(tang) "People of the sea" (Teal)
Hoketh "Band of Hoth" (Green)
Yachelkes "Warriors of the Horse" (Light Blue)
Payalak(tang) "People of the earth" (Eastern Mountain Tribes) (Brown)
Shathok "Warriors of the trees" (Western Mountain Tribes) (Vomit Color)
Descriptions will come later, or in orders.
Losalrion / JosefStalinator
Progression: Low Imperial/ Kambathsu River Valley Civilization
Development: Advanced / Nature, Energy listing
Government: (Population) / Despotic / A hereditary Imperial Priest-King rules with mandate from Losol from Sataron (the capital), shares power in other cities with brothers/sons.
Military: Strong / Pathetic
Vitality: Growing / Growing
Society: The classical Bessarion Low Imperial state, the Lossalrion are organized within their city states under their Warrior Priest-King (Bessamon). Beneath the Priest-King are the aristocrats of the age, Warrior-Priests (Therista), who represent Losol and lead armies into battle; these are typically related to the Bessamon by blood.
Values:
Spoiler :
Tenets: Honor/Justice (Kashith), Power, Kinship (Thatiho), Ngash (Dualistic Conflict)
Overview: The Lossalrion are the shining example of Bessariondze acheivement, having established themselves in the original homeland of the Bessariondze itself, the Kambathsu river valley. Organized by their Bessamon, ruling by divine mandate and with the legacy of Itak Champion of Losol, the Warrior Priest-Kings of the river valley rule over one of the more advanced civilizations of the area. Highly militaristic and fiercly devoted to their gods Shakikim and Losol, the Bessarion are ever pit against their rivals, the Nengal to the West.
I'll edit in the rest as the day goes on.
I'm interested in one of Jalepeno dudes nations.
Zhedai Ascendancy, Sisai or Dzixau Confederacy all look good to me so I'll wait for Jalepeno to choose which nation he wants and he can recommend which one he would like to have a player out of what's left.
Zhedai Ascendancy, Sisai or Dzixau Confederacy all look good to me so I'll wait for Jalepeno to choose which nation he wants and he can recommend which one he would like to have a player out of what's left.
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