Tea Party leader desirous of Property requirement for voting

[Tani Coyote]

And we all know what they mean by "Taking back America"

For me it was taking it back from a supposedly new era of high deficits, taxes, and attempts at universal healthcare.

Still rather ignorant on their part, but I think they just don't know their history - since we've had much higher tax rates, universal healthcare was proposed as early as the 1900s, etc. - not so much that they're all racist.

 

[Ajidica]

I wonder, would the Tea Party call anti-commie Nixon a communist when he proposed his idea for UHC?
I know they would call Bismarck a socialist.

 

[GamezRule]

The last time I checked, Socialists despised Imperialism.

 

[illram]

Last time I checked, modern day tea partiers that do not own property get to elect their representatives.

How funny it would be if that were otherwise...

 

[CivFanaticMan]

Well, most americans are still paying for their property, and they don't really 'own' it so only the wealthy will be voting.

1 step closer to making this country into a privatized 3rd world country, where giving to the rich grants you basic rights.

 

[Cutlass]

It would certainly improve the quality of governance quite a bit, but it will never happen.

Exactly the opposite. Whenever a group is excluded from governance, the government will act to make them worse off to benefit the privileged class. Given how far the US has already gone down that road, and given the many trillions of dollars it has cost us, we can't afford to do more in that direction.

 

[useless]

It's nice to know that regardless of the problem, the poor must be collectively crapped on by ALL parties.

 

[Tani Coyote]

The last time I checked, Socialists despised Imperialism.

No, the National Socialists sure didn't!

What. Some people honestly think Nazis were left wing simply because of the "socialist" part of their name.

Well, most americans are still paying for their property, and they don't really 'own' it so only the wealthy will be voting.

1 step closer to making this country into a privatized 3rd world country, where giving to the rich grants you basic rights.

Hence why we must RL troll by passing this proposed legislation but define ownership to include renting and mortgages. In the end, it ends up practically pointless.

 

[Traitorfish]

No, the National Socialists sure didn't!

What. Some people honestly think Nazis were left wing simply because of the "socialist" part of their name.

But of course they are! Don't you know that they banned guns, meat-eating, Christianity and laughter?

 

[CivFanaticMan]

But of course they are! Don't you know that they banned guns, meat-eating, Christianity and laughter?

I thought they ate Jews? (my apologies if any Jews take offense)

 

[GhostWriter16]

But of course they are! Don't you know that they banned guns, meat-eating, Christianity and laughter?

What was ironic was that the Nazis claimed to be Christians. Though until modern times, most persecution of Christians was done by Christians.

They were left of center though.

 

[Traitorfish]

What was ironic was that the Nazis claimed to be Christians.

Congratulations, that was exactly my point.

They were left of center though.

Because advocating class collaboration, reactionary social values and the defence of "Productive Capitalism" against the Ruinous Forces of Bolshevism is simply a classic left-wing program.

Not to derail down that particular avenue again. Just wanted to get that little point in.

 

[GhostWriter16]

I didn't say they were far-left (Though for America they probably would be moderate to far left), but I'm talking fiscally. Socially they were radical authoritarians.

 

[Ajidica]

What part of 'do not derail the thread' eludes you?

 

[Brian Shanahan]

Because advocating class collaboration, reactionary social values and the defence of "Productive Capitalism" against the Ruinous Forces of Bolshevism is simply a classic left-wing program.

Not to derail down that particular avenue again. Just wanted to get that little point in.

Added to the fact that they consistently sided with the business magnates and did everything in their power to break up the trades union.

What part of 'do not derail the thread' eludes you?

Also what part of "the Nazis were closer to Republican values than left-wing ones?" too (not saying they Repblicans share much with Nazis but comparing them with those of Socialism Republicans come a lot closer).

 

[Traitorfish]

Added to the fact that they consistently sided with the business magnates and did everything in their power to break up the trades union.

Indeed- if anything, their economic policies were reactionary; their defence of "Productive Capitalism", an ideological term for the individualistic, quasi-aristocratic capitalism of the imperial age, against "Jewish Finance Capitalism", a similarly ideological term for modern, impersonal capitalism, hardly smacks of socialism, yet is more than a little reminiscent of the ousted Imperial regime. One can argue that the quasi-syndicalist faction behind Rohm and the Strassers leant towards the left, but they hardly constituted the heart of the party- or, after 1934, warm bodies.

 

[Quackers]

RR, it has long been my contention that the Repub party, in general, is regressive. If the Dems were smart (which they are not) and had any ability or desire to win the messageing war they would seize on this and utter "regressive" every 4th word. But they don't.

Like I've said elsewhere, for a bunch pf career politicians they are unbelievably bad at politics.

You think your both smarter then super-duper ivy-league educated democratic stratigiests? O really?

 

[Formaldehyde]

I wonder if the Democratic Party knows that there are a couple of super-smart elitist Harvard graduates behind the magic curtain who are actually responsible for one collosal political blunder after another.

 

[GamezRule]

Why, of course they do. He writes the checks.

 

[GhostWriter16]

I wonder, would the Tea Party call anti-commie Nixon a communist when he proposed his idea for UHC?

Well, I wouldn't unless I were joking. Socialist yes, Commie no.

I know they would call Bismarck a socialist.

Maybe not ideologically, but in practice yes.