Omega124
Challenging Fate
Isolationists aren't necessarily Tokugawa Japan. You can have foreign relationships and be in a trade group; it just needs to be a group where you personally benefit being in.
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Isolationists aren't necessarily Tokugawa Japan. You can have foreign relationships and be in a trade group; it just needs to be a group where you personally benefit being in.
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I'm personally a little concerned that there are such strong economic incentives to cooperation between nations. Larger trade groups are very good and provide more benefit than smaller focused groups... and now tech sharing...
I would prefer not to see this game (d)evolve into 2 major blocs that through cooperation race ahead of all others and basically make the only viable playing method to be to join with them. I enjoy more multi-polar worlds and hope that these can remain competitive world powers by remaining semi-aloof or in small groups.
I've said my share and will obviously play this game either way.
Cheers, I.
I would prefer not to see this game (d)evolve into 2 major blocs that through cooperation race ahead of all others and basically make the only viable playing method to be to join with them. I enjoy more multi-polar worlds and hope that these can remain competitive world powers by remaining semi-aloof or in small groups.
I've said my share and will obviously play this game either way.
Cheers, I.
Seon
Not An Evil Liar
Actually I'll have you know that I get fewer benefits from being in a large trade group than being in a small focused one.
For example I am earning around 9-10 in trade income compared to the South American trade group, which earns 10-11, which is what I would be getting if I had formed a trade group with say, IBS, NHD, and Vietnam despite my current group being much larger.
For example I am earning around 9-10 in trade income compared to the South American trade group, which earns 10-11, which is what I would be getting if I had formed a trade group with say, IBS, NHD, and Vietnam despite my current group being much larger.
Terran Empress
Hornet
This but Socialist
Traveller76
Prince
General Election 2064
Multiple factors lead to slim majority for Nagas
22-May-2064
Compared with the situation five years ago, the Naga Coalition of the National Reform Party, Democratic Party of India and Infosocialist Party have managed to keep a slim majority of one hundred forty-nine seats to the Garudas (Hindu People's Party/Indian National Coalition) one hundred and twenty-three. Despite this win for the Nagas many political experts have questioned how long the Nagas will retain their majority. A breakdown comparing the 2059 election and the recent election show the HPP gained seventeen seats, the RSP lost two seats, the BDP lost thirty-five seats, the BRG gained four and the IP gained sixteen, a massive change from just five years ago. When asked about the results, Political Science Professor and commentator Kailee Wescott called the results 'a form of protest voting that we are used to seeing. Anti-incumbency and a revolt against the dominant parties are a time-honored tradition. When people feel that their representatives or their political party does not listen to them or is taking advantage of them they then switch their vote.'
Focus on external relations and technology
The new government is expected to focus on trade and diplomatic relations with various neighboring states especially concerning technological development. Minister of Science and Technology Ishita Indra Singh has mentioned that the government is seeking partners with developing Internet 2.5 and Jawan 2050 programs. 'Some of these programs will be for the benefit of not just the country but the world so we seek partners to help speed up development. Regarding Jawan 2050, we believe a well developed military and security force is necessary to preserve the peace and our freedoms from rogue elements.' The Foreign Ministry has not commented yet on trade or diplomatic meetings with neighboring states.
Multiple factors lead to slim majority for Nagas
22-May-2064
Compared with the situation five years ago, the Naga Coalition of the National Reform Party, Democratic Party of India and Infosocialist Party have managed to keep a slim majority of one hundred forty-nine seats to the Garudas (Hindu People's Party/Indian National Coalition) one hundred and twenty-three. Despite this win for the Nagas many political experts have questioned how long the Nagas will retain their majority. A breakdown comparing the 2059 election and the recent election show the HPP gained seventeen seats, the RSP lost two seats, the BDP lost thirty-five seats, the BRG gained four and the IP gained sixteen, a massive change from just five years ago. When asked about the results, Political Science Professor and commentator Kailee Wescott called the results 'a form of protest voting that we are used to seeing. Anti-incumbency and a revolt against the dominant parties are a time-honored tradition. When people feel that their representatives or their political party does not listen to them or is taking advantage of them they then switch their vote.'
Focus on external relations and technology
The new government is expected to focus on trade and diplomatic relations with various neighboring states especially concerning technological development. Minister of Science and Technology Ishita Indra Singh has mentioned that the government is seeking partners with developing Internet 2.5 and Jawan 2050 programs. 'Some of these programs will be for the benefit of not just the country but the world so we seek partners to help speed up development. Regarding Jawan 2050, we believe a well developed military and security force is necessary to preserve the peace and our freedoms from rogue elements.' The Foreign Ministry has not commented yet on trade or diplomatic meetings with neighboring states.
Omega124
Challenging Fate
To: The Entire World
From: The Holy Kingdom of Zion
With the securing of the Promised Land to the Faithful, Lord-Protector Buffalo Soldier hereby announces a formal coronation service at St. George's Cathedral, Addis Ababa, the site where a century ago Our Lord and Savior was crowned to bring eternal salvation to His children. We invite all the nations of man to witness this holy and sacred event, where the Covenant between Jah and his Chosen People will be once again renewed, for all the world to bear witness. Those nations who will attend and pay due reverence will find favor from Jah, and have their lands similarly blessed.
Following this most holy ceremony, our Lord-Protector will officially set up a new court in Addis Ababa, and thus we humbly request all nations move their embassies from Kingston to Addis Abada.
To: All African nations
From: The Holy Kingdom of Zion
Following the affairs of the formal coronation, we also humbly invite every African state to our borders, especially (but not limited to) members of the African Trade Leauge, for a 9th Pan-African Congress to also be held at Addis Abada, so that we may be able to discuss common issues such as indigenous economic development, and common defense against future attempts at colonial interference.
From: The Holy Kingdom of Zion
With the securing of the Promised Land to the Faithful, Lord-Protector Buffalo Soldier hereby announces a formal coronation service at St. George's Cathedral, Addis Ababa, the site where a century ago Our Lord and Savior was crowned to bring eternal salvation to His children. We invite all the nations of man to witness this holy and sacred event, where the Covenant between Jah and his Chosen People will be once again renewed, for all the world to bear witness. Those nations who will attend and pay due reverence will find favor from Jah, and have their lands similarly blessed.
Following this most holy ceremony, our Lord-Protector will officially set up a new court in Addis Ababa, and thus we humbly request all nations move their embassies from Kingston to Addis Abada.
To: All African nations
From: The Holy Kingdom of Zion
Following the affairs of the formal coronation, we also humbly invite every African state to our borders, especially (but not limited to) members of the African Trade Leauge, for a 9th Pan-African Congress to also be held at Addis Abada, so that we may be able to discuss common issues such as indigenous economic development, and common defense against future attempts at colonial interference.
Civ'ed
I ain't gotta explain a thing
United under the Sahel Protection Alliance representative Toure Esaleh, The nations of the SPA will attend the coronation and the PAC both in the spirit of african cooperation.
Traveller76
Prince
The Federation of South India shall send our Ambassador Pradeep Mhasalkar and staff to attend the ceremony.
Ministry of Foreign Affairs
jackelgull
An aberration of nature
The Union of South Africa will be sending its foreign minister Ayanda Dube to both the coronation and the PAC. In fact South Africa has a proposal it would like to lay out in the PAC for the economic revival and rejuvenation of Africa.
Mosher
Mushroom dad
The Columbian Union regrets that Sec. Of State Graham will be unable to attend, though a military delegation, headed by Lieutenant General William Matthews of the 1st Motorized Division, will attend in his stead.
We wish our southern neighbors all the luck in the years ahead.
We wish our southern neighbors all the luck in the years ahead.
Seon
Not An Evil Liar
the light was not very bright but our eyes were tired
Just three to four decades ago, this city was the heart of the world's most oppressive dictatorship in the world. Now it was a bloody tourist trap. Mi Na sometimes pondered about this strange evolution (or an outright rebirth, depending on your point of view) when business was slow and she had an uncomfortable amount of time for herself. She was a member of a clique of Entertainers and a citizen of Pyongyang. Entertainers. Such a fancy title, she always thought, for a bartender.
Pyongyang was not what it once was, although arguably this was a good thing. Not that she actually knew how Pyongyang was like, of course. By the time she was born, the city was already in ruins. Her parents assured her that she was far better off not knowing, and EAEC educators often hinted at a bleak and terrifying picture of the previous regime amidst their technical descriptions when they weren't blatantly listing the previous regime's misdeeds and crimes. Nationalistic death cults, they called the previous governments that ruled the peninsula. These governments insisted upon indoctrinating their youth that nebulous concepts and ideologies were worth dying for, and used the previous deaths of many other people in order to inspire others to themselves die. A nation united, a particularly bitter and biting teacher explained the nature of the governments of the Koreas: "By sadomasochistic love of death: receiving it, giving it, and longing for it." She was told that they and people like them were responsible for the state of the world, and that as their descendants it was important to live her life well as such would be the most effective act of defiance against death that such people craved.
As she grew up in the walled enclave of Pyongyang, she thought that such understanding of the world was natural. Living in modern day Pyongyang, visited by people all across the world, she was less certain. It was not that the world had changed. It was just that she knew and understood more, living here where so many people came and went. She thought it was natural that people would give up violence growing up in a world wrecked by it, only to discover that people still insisted upon it. The TV at her bar blared something about the latest diplomatic standoff and a recent referendum. She already knew how the referendum would end, and wanted to block it out. It was customary, however, to leave the TV at the bar fixed on the news channel until a customer requested it to be changed.
So she kept it on despite the fact that there were no customers in her bar yet.
"Votes are coming in from Nampo Enclave regarding the-"
"Heeey, Mi Na!" shouted a particularly cheerful young woman as she burst through the door. Mi Na knew her as Yuri, another member of the Entertainer clique in Pyongyang and a regular at her bar. "How's it going gurl?"
"You are making me cringe," Mi Na replied. Yuri chuckled as she took a seat at the bar. "Slow night, huh? I'll take the usual as always."
"I still have no idea what you mean by that so I'll just mix together whatever I happen to have nearby," Mi Na said half-seriously.
"Yeah that's the one I want," Yuri replied.
"Weirdo," Mi Na said as she started mixing together Yuri's favorite drink--anything that happens to be sweet appeared to please her patron as long as it wasn't banana flavored. Yuri laughed. "You say that but you always know what I want, girl."
"Except for that time with-"
"Let's not talk about bananas."
"Okay." Mi Na said.
"By the way, I don't think I've ever seen a lot of people here in this bar," Yuri said after an awkward silence. "Not that I dislike that. It's the only place in this town where I can hear myself think at night."
"I actually have most of my customers in the day and evening," Mi Na said. It was true. Her bar was more geared to servicing locals than the tourists, after all. "You and few others are pretty much the only ones who come this late."
"Well thank you for keeping this bar open for so long then!" Yuri declared. "I don't know what I would do without it."
"Probably go to another bar," Mi Na snarked. "...while votes are still coming in, the trend indicates that Nampo Enclave have voted Aye in favor of the referendum..." the news caster droned on.
"Seriously though," Yuri said. "Your bar is one of the few installations in this town who doesn't pander to tourists who comes from whoknowswhere to gawk at all the masked freaks living in the ruins of a dictatorship," Yuri waved her hand around the rather plain and unassuming bar. "This bar has class."
"...I... I'm not sure if I agree with your definition of classy," Mi Na said, looking around the bar. The display case was basically a cupboard with some colorful bottles in it. A TV hung from a corner of the room. There were some broken arcade machines she salvaged from the ruins that acted like a decoration on another corner. The pool table was eternally missing few of the balls. "That's the first time I associated that word with this bar."
"Well, it certainly is more classy than some of the bars I work in these days," Yuri said. "One I worked in today was doing a Masquerade themed night. A masquerade! How much more can you possibly pander to tourists?" Yuri shouted while adjusting her own mask instinctively. "Everyone in the Society wears a mask of some description, so isn't it so stupidly redundant? And of course tourists would associate such parties with us too."
"Well, I wouldn't be so sure about that," Mi Na said. "Masquerade does have a specific aesthetic of its own. Much more European and decadent in terms of costume design than what is the norm here. Also, masquerade would be pretty classy, I think."
"Yeah, because all the foreigners have to come to Pyongyang of all places to experience European aesthetics," Yuri said. Mi Na shrugged. "Well I guess they do pay my bills," Yuri conceded.
"While counting continues, it appears as if there's nearly enough votes counted so far to announce a result... First Speaker Nakamura is expected to make a declaration within minutes..."
"Oh yeah, the referendum!" Yuri said. "I totally forgot that was a thing after I voted for it. What do you think won?"
Mi Na cringed. She would rather not think about it for now. "Well, it was really a foregone conclusion wasn't it? After we've been told that military buildup and primacy only leads to violence? After we've been drilled non-stop about the evils of nationalism and zeal only to see the world go insane over supporting it in different flavors over the last few years?"
"Hmm," Yuri said. "I think I understand what you mean."
"The referendum to enable Society's central government to remilitarize and rearm naval forces have passed.. by overwhelming majority... while votes continue to be counted, First Speaker Nakamura is preparing to give a speech regardin-"
Mi Na turned the TV towards the sporting channel. Yuri didn't object. They watched a man reel in a plump catfish in Europe. "I'm sure it'll be alright," Yuri commented.
"I know, I voted aye for it," Mi Na said. "Still leaves a bad taste in the mouth. All we can do is hope that we live to regret our decision."
Just three to four decades ago, this city was the heart of the world's most oppressive dictatorship in the world. Now it was a bloody tourist trap. Mi Na sometimes pondered about this strange evolution (or an outright rebirth, depending on your point of view) when business was slow and she had an uncomfortable amount of time for herself. She was a member of a clique of Entertainers and a citizen of Pyongyang. Entertainers. Such a fancy title, she always thought, for a bartender.
Pyongyang was not what it once was, although arguably this was a good thing. Not that she actually knew how Pyongyang was like, of course. By the time she was born, the city was already in ruins. Her parents assured her that she was far better off not knowing, and EAEC educators often hinted at a bleak and terrifying picture of the previous regime amidst their technical descriptions when they weren't blatantly listing the previous regime's misdeeds and crimes. Nationalistic death cults, they called the previous governments that ruled the peninsula. These governments insisted upon indoctrinating their youth that nebulous concepts and ideologies were worth dying for, and used the previous deaths of many other people in order to inspire others to themselves die. A nation united, a particularly bitter and biting teacher explained the nature of the governments of the Koreas: "By sadomasochistic love of death: receiving it, giving it, and longing for it." She was told that they and people like them were responsible for the state of the world, and that as their descendants it was important to live her life well as such would be the most effective act of defiance against death that such people craved.
As she grew up in the walled enclave of Pyongyang, she thought that such understanding of the world was natural. Living in modern day Pyongyang, visited by people all across the world, she was less certain. It was not that the world had changed. It was just that she knew and understood more, living here where so many people came and went. She thought it was natural that people would give up violence growing up in a world wrecked by it, only to discover that people still insisted upon it. The TV at her bar blared something about the latest diplomatic standoff and a recent referendum. She already knew how the referendum would end, and wanted to block it out. It was customary, however, to leave the TV at the bar fixed on the news channel until a customer requested it to be changed.
So she kept it on despite the fact that there were no customers in her bar yet.
"Votes are coming in from Nampo Enclave regarding the-"
"Heeey, Mi Na!" shouted a particularly cheerful young woman as she burst through the door. Mi Na knew her as Yuri, another member of the Entertainer clique in Pyongyang and a regular at her bar. "How's it going gurl?"
"You are making me cringe," Mi Na replied. Yuri chuckled as she took a seat at the bar. "Slow night, huh? I'll take the usual as always."
"I still have no idea what you mean by that so I'll just mix together whatever I happen to have nearby," Mi Na said half-seriously.
"Yeah that's the one I want," Yuri replied.
"Weirdo," Mi Na said as she started mixing together Yuri's favorite drink--anything that happens to be sweet appeared to please her patron as long as it wasn't banana flavored. Yuri laughed. "You say that but you always know what I want, girl."
"Except for that time with-"
"Let's not talk about bananas."
"Okay." Mi Na said.
"By the way, I don't think I've ever seen a lot of people here in this bar," Yuri said after an awkward silence. "Not that I dislike that. It's the only place in this town where I can hear myself think at night."
"I actually have most of my customers in the day and evening," Mi Na said. It was true. Her bar was more geared to servicing locals than the tourists, after all. "You and few others are pretty much the only ones who come this late."
"Well thank you for keeping this bar open for so long then!" Yuri declared. "I don't know what I would do without it."
"Probably go to another bar," Mi Na snarked. "...while votes are still coming in, the trend indicates that Nampo Enclave have voted Aye in favor of the referendum..." the news caster droned on.
"Seriously though," Yuri said. "Your bar is one of the few installations in this town who doesn't pander to tourists who comes from whoknowswhere to gawk at all the masked freaks living in the ruins of a dictatorship," Yuri waved her hand around the rather plain and unassuming bar. "This bar has class."
"...I... I'm not sure if I agree with your definition of classy," Mi Na said, looking around the bar. The display case was basically a cupboard with some colorful bottles in it. A TV hung from a corner of the room. There were some broken arcade machines she salvaged from the ruins that acted like a decoration on another corner. The pool table was eternally missing few of the balls. "That's the first time I associated that word with this bar."
"Well, it certainly is more classy than some of the bars I work in these days," Yuri said. "One I worked in today was doing a Masquerade themed night. A masquerade! How much more can you possibly pander to tourists?" Yuri shouted while adjusting her own mask instinctively. "Everyone in the Society wears a mask of some description, so isn't it so stupidly redundant? And of course tourists would associate such parties with us too."
"Well, I wouldn't be so sure about that," Mi Na said. "Masquerade does have a specific aesthetic of its own. Much more European and decadent in terms of costume design than what is the norm here. Also, masquerade would be pretty classy, I think."
"Yeah, because all the foreigners have to come to Pyongyang of all places to experience European aesthetics," Yuri said. Mi Na shrugged. "Well I guess they do pay my bills," Yuri conceded.
"While counting continues, it appears as if there's nearly enough votes counted so far to announce a result... First Speaker Nakamura is expected to make a declaration within minutes..."
"Oh yeah, the referendum!" Yuri said. "I totally forgot that was a thing after I voted for it. What do you think won?"
Mi Na cringed. She would rather not think about it for now. "Well, it was really a foregone conclusion wasn't it? After we've been told that military buildup and primacy only leads to violence? After we've been drilled non-stop about the evils of nationalism and zeal only to see the world go insane over supporting it in different flavors over the last few years?"
"Hmm," Yuri said. "I think I understand what you mean."
"The referendum to enable Society's central government to remilitarize and rearm naval forces have passed.. by overwhelming majority... while votes continue to be counted, First Speaker Nakamura is preparing to give a speech regardin-"
Mi Na turned the TV towards the sporting channel. Yuri didn't object. They watched a man reel in a plump catfish in Europe. "I'm sure it'll be alright," Yuri commented.
"I know, I voted aye for it," Mi Na said. "Still leaves a bad taste in the mouth. All we can do is hope that we live to regret our decision."
In protest of the Holy Kingdom of Zion's lack of democratic institutions, the Sanctuary Republics will not be sending a delegation to attend the coronation. This will remain true for any and all future events hosted by Zion that the international community at-large is invited to until the people of Zion are free to engage in the democratic process.
We will, however, be moving our embassy to Addis Abada as requested.
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We will join the Sanctuary Republics in their protest and will not attend the coronation in solidarity. We will also move our embassy to Addis Abada.
Seon
Not An Evil Liar
Society's Navy
SV Regrettable Waste of Taxpayer Money undergoing final checks in drydock
Society military doctrine surprisingly emphasizes the use of psychological and physical terror as part of tactical and strategic tools at its disposal and this shows in the polity's particular emphasis on submarine forces. Quick, maneuverable, and capable of long term and almost indefinite voyages while at sea, Society Submarines are capable of unleashing barrage of torpedoes and missiles at unsuspecting civilian or military targets and deploying decoys before retreating into deeper oceans.
When discussing the naval force of the Society's military, people often discuss the strange naming scheme of the ships in its arsenal. Generally speaking, the more valuable a ship is to the Society's military strategy the more sarcastic of a name it will have. Nuclear powered capital-class submarines (boomers) are given names such as "Regrettable Waste of Taxpayer Money" or "What are the Civilian Applications?" while the more unassuming destroyers are given names such as "Fanatic Xenophobe" and "Donald." Society's disrespectful, almost cavalier approach to warfare have drawn condemnations from both within and outside its borders, but the proponents of the naming scheme insist that such names prevent these ships and its crew from being easily idolized and is in fact, representative of the Society's strongly anti-war viewpoints.
SV Regrettable Waste of Taxpayer Money undergoing final checks in drydock
When discussing the naval force of the Society's military, people often discuss the strange naming scheme of the ships in its arsenal. Generally speaking, the more valuable a ship is to the Society's military strategy the more sarcastic of a name it will have. Nuclear powered capital-class submarines (boomers) are given names such as "Regrettable Waste of Taxpayer Money" or "What are the Civilian Applications?" while the more unassuming destroyers are given names such as "Fanatic Xenophobe" and "Donald." Society's disrespectful, almost cavalier approach to warfare have drawn condemnations from both within and outside its borders, but the proponents of the naming scheme insist that such names prevent these ships and its crew from being easily idolized and is in fact, representative of the Society's strongly anti-war viewpoints.
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I would prefer it to be extended for another 24 hours after that, as Reus said he would be back from the Magic Desert Cube™ by then which would give him a chance to send orders.
tobiisagoodboy
Prince
I was completly focused on an exam til now, so pls an extension
Decamper
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To: The Holy Kingdom of Zion
From: Republic of Zimbabwe, Peoples Democratic Union of North East Africa, West African Free Confederation
CC: All African Trade League Polities @Civ'ed @jackelgull @Omega124
We will gladly attendthes coronation ceremony, as well as the Pan-African Congress. We are also hoping to apply for membership in the African Trade League, as well as any possible economic assistance.
To: The Holy Kingdom of Zion
From: Republic of Egypt, Tunisia
We will gladly send representatives to the coronation ceremony, but will abstain from attending the Congress.
Mathalamus
Emperor of Mathalia
the President of Cyprus, Alekos Doukas will attend the service, and he will move the embassy to addis abada.
