Terraforming Pluto.

[PlutonianEmpire]

I did not post just to argue with Perfection!

 

[PlutonianEmpire]

I posted this thread because I thought it was interesting. I don't like arguing anyway. It just wastes everyone's time.

 

[Perfection]

@Perfection
And you say Pluto can't be terraformed...

Sorry Sim City 2000 may be awesome, but it's not reality. Also, next time make slanted snow slopes as well as flat, your scurk skills are sub-par.

 

[downwithgravity]

hey, not to crap all over your idea or anything. i think it would be cool, don't get me wrong. but maybe we should prioritize, take mars, then build GDR's, THEN terraform pluto. gotta think longterm here

 

[PlutonianEmpire]

I have a scenario storyline about my Empire. It does exactly that: Mars first, then Pluto. I totally agree with you on that

 

[PlutonianEmpire]

Sorry Sim City 2000 may be awesome, but it's not reality. Also, next time make slanted snow slopes as well as flat, your scurk skills are sub-par.

I know, I know. I was just joking about that SimCity thing anyway. And yes, I admit it, I am a terrible artist

 

[Perfection]

hey, not to crap all over your idea or anything. i think it would be cool, don't get me wrong. but maybe we should prioritize, take mars, then build GDR's, THEN terraform pluto. gotta think longterm here

It should be GDRs before Mars

 

[PlutonianEmpire]

What are "GDR's?"

 

[Specialist290]

Giant Death Robots. Perfection's got a whole thread in the Civ4 Ideas section.

Though I'd bet PF Bomb could take out one of those things easily.

Hi PE.

 

[PlutonianEmpire]

Giant Death Robots. Perfection's got a whole thread in the Civ4 Ideas section.

Though I'd bet PF Bomb could take out one of those things easily.

Hi PE.

I have a small range of ideas regarding my plutonium fusion bombs. Most likely, the PF bomb will end up as sci-fi, but as always, I have hope.

(PS: I quoted in order to avoid inadvertent spamming)

 

[Perfection]

Though I'd bet PF Bomb could take out one of those things easily.

Pah! PF bombs are impossible. Fusion of large atomic nucleui requires large amounts of energy it doesn't produce energy it just takes in a whole lot. The largest atoms you can get energy from fusion are around the size of argon

 

[Specialist290]

That might be true, but if we could find a way to somehow get around the whole Laws of Nature thing...

Anyway, I do agree that actually full-scale terraforming Pluto all at once would be a little... excessive, but as for creating domed "habitats," now, that's another story. Why waste effort trying to change the whole planet's surface when you can just build an enormous Pressure Dome and terrain-engineer under that?

 

[PlutonianEmpire]

Anyway, I do agree that actually full-scale terraforming Pluto all at once would be a little... excessive,

I was born excessive.

 

[Perfection]

That might be true, but if we could find a way to somehow get around the whole Laws of Nature thing...

Then all science would be rendered meaningless.

Anyway, I do agree that actually full-scale terraforming Pluto all at once would be a little... excessive, but as for creating domed "habitats," now, that's another story. Why waste effort trying to change the whole planet's surface when you can just build an enormous Pressure Dome and terrain-engineer under that?

That would be a whole lot easier, in fact we might do that someday, though we'd probobly want to do it on Quaoar before Pluto, Quaoar is a more valuable hunk of real estate.

 

[Yuri2356]

Ah, nothing like a discussion on the Planetary Real-estate market. I personally plan to buy a small dome on the moon. Get a few rovers, loot the Apolo landing sites, and just have a general good time.

Pah! PF bombs are impossible. Fusion of large atomic nucleui requires large amounts of energy it doesn't produce energy it just takes in a whole lot. The largest atoms you can get energy from fusion are around the size of argon

Argon eh? I thought the largest atom you could get from fusion was Iron or Zinc. That's about the point where larger stars just give up and implode. As for the PF bomb VS GDR, perhaps the bomb would attach itself to the GDR and leach the energy nessecary to cause the reaction, and then detonate. Of corse not all GDRs would produce enough power to fuel the bomb, or even be vulnerable to it's energy-leaching thingamajig, whatever it may be.

 

[Perfection]

Ah, nothing like a discussion on the Planetary Real-estate market. I personally plan to buy a small dome on the moon. Get a few rovers, loot the Apolo landing sites, and just have a general good time.

Those are historical sites, they must preserved! Good thing I've dispatched troops there!

Argon eh? I thought the largest atom you could get from fusion was Iron or Zinc. That's about the point where larger stars just give up and implode.

Those are the largest you can get from exothermic fusion reactions, I was talking about ones that go into an exothermic reaction.

As for the PF bomb VS GDR. perhaps the bomb would attach itself to the GDR and leach the energy nessecary to cause the reaction, and then detonate. Of corse not all GDRs would produce enough power to fuel the bomb, or even be vulnerable to it's energy-leaching thingamajig, whatever it may be.

Basicly a parasitic particle accelerator I reckon, and it would require massive amounts of power (assuming that it's even possible to make an atom that huge). It would be huge and bulky, a GDR would be able to toast it with it;s plasma rifle before any of that crap would occur.

 

[PlutonianEmpire]

(assuming that it's even possible to make an atom that huge)

You were talking about the pisces centaurium, right?

 

[Perfection]

You were talking about the pisces centaurium, right?

Something like that...

 

[Plotinus]

No I think most scientists in the field would describe it as a KBO or planetoid. The reason, there is a whole bunch of big objects in the Kuiper Belt, some nearing Pluto's size, Quaoar Varuna Charon and many other yet unnamed objects circle in an orbit very similar to Pluto's. Pluto is a KBO not a planet.

Far be it from me to criticise the Perfect One, but I'm afraid on this he's wrong, for two reasons:

(1) There is no absolute criterion for whether something is a planet or not - if it orbits the sun, there's grounds for calling it a planet. It's just that sometimes it's useful to us to call one thing a planet and another thing not a planet - just like there's no rigid boundary between "a small pile" and "a big heap". If you think Pluto's a planet, it's a planet.

(2) Inasmuch as these things are official, they are decided by the International Astronomical Union. And if you look at http://www.iau.org/IAU/FAQ/PlutoPR.html you will see that the IAU officially regards Pluto as a planet. It is also officially regarded as one of a number of Trans-Neptunian Objects. In other words, being a Kuiper Belt Object and being a planet are not mutually exclusive: officially, Pluto enjoys the status of each. Perhaps if it were discovered today, we would not call it a planet, given what we know of this region of space - but that's another matter.

 

[Aphex_Twin]

How far inside pluto's underground would we have to dig to experience a gravity similar to that of Earth?