TerraNES2: SilliNES Part 1: The Invisible Hand is In Your Pants

[Terrance888]

Ooc: winter is coming is a joke on asoiaf. Basically, little ice age.

Also, orders due in 5 hours.

Btw, role playing challenges aren't necessary to do, but make me happy if you do them.

 

[christos200]

We accept trade with Malta. Emperor Alexander would like to ask you if you have any enemies you want him to impale.

 

[christos200]

Greek Orders

Greece/Christos200
Stability: Stable
Government: Absolute Monarchy
Army: 220,000 Hoplites
Navy: 100 Tririmes


Invade with 200,000 Hoplites the Barbs in the North and then the purple Barbs in FYROM.

 

[Terrance888]

What is FYROM?

 

[videonfan]

He means the barbarians in the modern Republic of Macedonia,north of Greece.

BTW,all this expansion without building or researching anything will hurt you later on

 

[christos200]

It is not Macedonia. It is Vardar!!!

And, I will start building once I have managed to unite most of Greece.

 

[videonfan]

It is not Macedonia. It is Vardar!!!

And, I will start building once I have managed to unite most of Greece.

Let's hope your ambitions do not reach the ones of Alexander the Great,for if you are as successful as him many races in this game that I like will be doomed

 

[Terrance888]

You did unite Greece? You are the Empire of All Greeks per update 0. Now you are conquering non-greek speaking barbarians, or killing them and resettling their land. At least you don't have overpopulation problems.

 

[videonfan]

You did unite Greece? You are the Empire of All Greeks per update 0. Now you are conquering non-greek speaking barbarians, or killing them and resettling their land. At least you don't have overpopulation problems.

I believe he means modern Greece or Megali Idea(Great Idea) borders(Asia Minor coast)

 

[mrrandomplayer]

Yeah, thanks a lot.

 

[Seon]

Contesting 220000 Hoplite business that the Greeks have got going. 220000 standing men army wielded by a Mediterranean faction in this time period is absolute nonsense, let alone an invasion force by 200000 men.

The Roman Republic could barely raise 86,400 men to defend against Hannibal in the battle of Cannae and this was with Roman conscription style military organization. Greek armies, as far as I understand it, is based on elite warrior class noblemen. While this leads to high quality soldiers, it has a crippling flaw-lack of manpower.

Pyrrhus may have won most battles against the Italians, but he could not replace losses as fast as the Romans could and thus was defeated eventually.

Even if we are to assume that 220,000 men army designates potential manpower output of the greek empire, 200,000 men assault army employed by the Greeks can not exist in this time period without there being massive drain on society.

 

[christos200]

Ok. I will have an army of 120,000 men, but no less.

 

[Tycho]

Spoiler :

Name: Stahfla
Capital: Cold Harbor (in the crook between Norway/Sweden)
Government: Absolute Monarchy/Feudalism
Economy: Mostly Stagnant
Culture: Jingoistic
Religion: Paganist
Army: 5000 Raiders, 2500 militiamen
Navy: 77 longships

Recruiting heavily from amongst the ranks of the people, thousands of more raiders and dozens of longships are constructed for the great assault upon the Jutland in order to secure it for the glory of the Stahflan kingdom. Ten thousand raiders and conscripts, as well as sixty longships are constructed and prepared, while two thousand land born raiders and the militiamen of Stahfla march to their neighbors in Yasha, eager to wrest their nation from their grasp and break their backs in one fell swoop. With grain and lumber and much more stockpiled for the vicious winter ahead, and the raiders extremely knowledgeable about fighting in the winter and stealth in the blizzards, this will be a vicious and deadly fight.

 

[Tycho]

Ok. I will have an army of 120,000 men, but no less.

If they all die, you can't really go out to the grocery store and pick up another one hundred and twenty thousand hoplites.

 

[christos200]

They will not all die.

 

[Symphony D.]

Contesting 220000 Hoplite business that the Greeks have got going. 220000 standing men army wielded by a Mediterranean faction in this time period is absolute nonsense, let alone an invasion force by 200000 men.

lurker's comment: Hey, everybody, look at this guy whining about realism in a game called "SilliNES Part 1: The Invisible Hand is In Your Pants!"

 

[Seon]

To be more exact, this is a guy who is worshipping Otters in a NES called SilliNES whining about realism while wielding cataphracts in late Bronze Age as the Otterman Empire.

 

[videonfan]

I want to post something,but I don't have any inspiration.Can you give me a Role Playing challenge?

 

[Terrance888]

There is a difference between utter SilliNES and utter silliness. In this case, since Seon brought it up and Christos conceded, I will let christos choose a new number for you guys to think about. Which in this case is 120k. (OOC: >.>)

I will keep in mind they are mostly citizen-hoplite semi-conscript soldiers.

Only reason I'm even thinking about allowing counts of 100K+ is that a greek city state can field 5-10k by itself or with nearby allies. And he controls ALL of them. Just that the fact that they are citizen soldiers mean that their invasion is more like an exaggerated colonization/suppression deal.

EDIT: I would like to make this clear. When challenged, you have a choice to concede or to argue. If you make an argument, you have basically one chance to convince the challenger(s), and if the challenger isn't satisfied, one chance to convince me.

@ videonfan

Your society is seemingly constantly plagued by natural disasters like Hurricanes, Earthquakes, and Tsunamis. (yeah whatever, LISTS COME IN THREES) How do they view natural disasters and how do they cope?

EDITEDIT: Oh yeah, orders due in 3 hours. NO MERCY.

EDITEDITEDIT: On second thought, it was a dick move of me to post the update late. Orders due in 6 hours.

 

[ork75]

Kansan Tuhat Saarta
Nation type: Tribal confederacy
Capital:Suuri Kaupunki Saurella (big island between Finland and Sweden)
Government techs: Levies, confederation, republic
Economy: Mediocre
Economic techs: small scale farming, large scale fishing, seaborne trade, land trade, mining, forestry, hunting
Culture: varied, but same cultural grouping
Religion: common elements such as sacrifice of humans and animals, mysticism with forests, and shrines. some gods are also common
Cultural Techs: alphabet (not commonly used), oral literature, mysticism
Military: medium
Military Structure: core standing army of high quality troops, well trained levies
Military Techs: Bronze axes, shield bosses, spears, arrowheads, and slicing swords; Bronze scale mail; fur armor; bronze reinforced fur helmets; shields; primitive composite bows and longbows; Motti tactics; shield wall
Navy: large
Navy Structure: core of high quality ships with good crews, large numbers of lesser levies
Navy Techs: sails, rams, longboats, galleasses,

Standing army: 3000 heavy infantry, 1000 archers
Levy army: From the islands and the coasts: 5000 heavy infantry, 10000 light infantry (i.e. shield and sword/axe/spear, but little to no armor), 6000 archers; From the mainland (forests and swamps): 8000 archers, 10000 skirmishers (javelineers, perhaps with shields and light armor), 4000 light infantry

Standing Navy:
30 Galleasses with rams
15 Longboats
Levy Navy:
15 Galleasses
80 Longboats
35 sailing vessels

Orders:
Continue expanding trade routes and exploring.

Spread use of alphabet; create central repository for state records in the capital

Send scouting parties, both army and navy, to the north. If contact established with "ferocious tribes", initiate trade if possible. If not, return with a warning to out territory.

Place levies on alert for possible raiders.