Terror plot foiled in Canada.

[Mulholland]

Maybe the three tonnes of amonium nitrate was just to cultivate some good outdoor ghanja... But seriously, I am also very happy that this terror plot was busted up before it happened. I have to tell you it sometimes takes a real world example to truly put youself in anothers shoes. I have more insight and sympathy today for any nation that has experienced or experiences daily this unfocussed hate.

 

[Godwynn]

Question, do we know if they were planning an attack on Canada or the States? It's not that far to the US, won't take much planning to hop the border

The police believe the actual city to be targetted was Toronto.

 

[Tulkas12]

Yes, European bigotry towards Muslims is very apparent.

Arab bigotry toward Europeans is also very apparent. Your point?

I really think we should all just agree not to use nukes and go ahead and try to commmit genocide on each other. It would get this stupid monkey crap over with, and maybe we could get to working on how we a re going to be a self sustaining and expanding (space exploration) society.

I'm reallly rooting for western society if this was to happen so I geuss I'm a bigot, so be it.

I wish I was kidding when I type this, but I really would like to see man stop killing each other oon massive scales over beliefs that one can't change.

 

[sysyphus]

I don't really believe what I said, just thought he might like to see what it's like being on the wrong end of stereotypes.

That said, I agree with your sentiment 100%.

 

[Winner]

Yes, European bigotry towards Muslims is very apparent.

It's the same b/s all over again - "you're racist, because you dare to point at the fact that a vast majority of terror attack against the West are commited by Muslims" or "Europeans are bigots because they don't like to be islamized by the newcomers, who refuse to respect liberal democracy" - how bright, irrefutable arguments In fact, you're just demonstrating your own bigotry, your inability to see the reality and your aversion to different opinions, which are not considered "correct".

Wake up people, the political correctness is poisoning your minds. The reality I am speaking about is that a group of Muslims, apparently raised in Canada, decided to kill their fellow countrymen because they do not follow the same religion. fortunately, their conspiracy has been uncovered and their terror attempt foiled. It should serve you as a reminder of the times we're living through.

 

[Che Guava]

WIth the age of the internet, extremism seems to be able to penetrate even the most seemingly stable and peaceful societies. I can't say I know much about the suspects in question right now, but i do have a personal connection to another 'terrorist': Mohammed Momin Khawaja

I went to the same high school as Momin, shared a few classes with him, even did a group assignment with him. He was a pretty shy guy, but always friendly and down for a laugh. I remember when he was arrested I was in complete disbeleif, not because i knew him well enough to think that he couldn't do it, but because I simply couldn't understand how someone who went through such a similar experience to me could end up so far over the line. He was a nice guy, and a smart guy who went from a pretty quiet and inclusive high school in a multicultural city to teaming up with extremist terrorists. It really boggles he mind, and I don't like thinking about it for too long....

 

[Simon Darkshade]

I'm thankful that the alleged plotters were apprehended prior to any event, along with fair few others in various other countries, according to some reports. I hope they get what is coming to them, and I hope it may persuade some people of the nature of the threat. If convicted, they'll probably get a custodial sentence in situ rather than an appropriate sanction, but at least the plot has been foiled for now.

Che Guava - The issue of the radicalization is an interesting one, and one that is decidedly uncomfortable. Reactions to experience can differ very broadly, but in the case of the Western sheltered homegrown jihadi, there are other overarching factors at play, particularly in regards the struggle at the heart of Islam between the 21st and 7th century factions.

 

[classical_hero]

It is good to see another country foil a terror attempt. It is good to see thatthe Authorities are handling the issue way better than what the Americans have. It is good to see Canada join Australia in foiling such attempts. to our Canadians friends.

 

[De Lorimier]

It's the same b/s all over again - "you're racist, because you dare to point at the fact that a vast majority of terror attack against the West are commited by Muslims" or "Europeans are bigots because they don't like to be islamized by the newcomers, who refuse to respect liberal democracy" - how bright, irrefutable arguments In fact, you're just demonstrating your own bigotry, your inability to see the reality and your aversion to different opinions, which are not considered "correct".

Wake up people, the political correctness is poisoning your minds. The reality I am speaking about is that a group of Muslims, apparently raised in Canada, decided to kill their fellow countrymen because they do not follow the same religion. fortunately, their conspiracy has been uncovered and their terror attempt foiled. It should serve you as a reminder of the times we're living through.

And what you don't get is that we do understand that those arrested are mostly Muslims and that a lot of today's terrorists are indeed followers of Mohammed. We know that. The reality is that we there are other religious groups aiming to terrorize our people based in Canada. This is well-known. So we don't need you to come in here and post your little insightful perverse jabs at Islam. You're not helping us understand the current affairs, you're just trolling.

 

[classical_hero]

What a shock, this thread has turned into a Muslim troll/flame thread.

 

[Bozo Erectus]

Why would they want to blow things up in Canada of all places? What crimes has Canada commited against Muslims?

 

[BasketCase]

Well, for one thing, Bozo, Canada isn't an Islamic theocracy. There are some radicals out there who want to attack Canada for that reason alone. They really do consider it sufficient justification.

The problem is that we're dealing with irrational people.

 

[Eukaryote]

I saw about that in the newspaper this morning, there's literly 10 pages devoted to it, I was too lazy to read about it but wow, 10 pages!

Anyway, I'm glad they were caught, that could have been ugly.

 

[C~G]

Yes, European bigotry towards Muslims is very apparent.

And some say European bigotry towards Jews is very apparent as well when europeans side with Palestinians.
Not forgetting the soccer hooligans, other types of racist slander and American-bashers.

Could rest of the world make up their minds what kind of bigots live in Europe so those of use who really happen to live in Europe get out of this nasty identity crisis?
I'm getting confused here who I'm supposed to be putting down currently.

It seems that Euro-bashing is also coming to fashion as well.

The problem is that we're dealing with irrational people.

BasketCase, wasn't the whole thing claimed by US about international terrorism such that it's well organized and rational action towards western countries and supported directly by certain governments, and not just some single fundie whackos doing irrational odd jobs here and there?

 

[VoodooAce]

And what you don't get is that we do understand that those arrested are mostly Muslims and that a lot of today's terrorists are indeed followers of Mohammed. We know that. The reality is that we there are other religious groups aiming to terrorize our people based in Canada. This is well-known. So we don't need you to come in here and post your little insightful perverse jabs at Islam. You're not helping us understand the current affairs, you're just trolling.

Well posted.

I'd say its more likely that the next terrorist even to occur in the US will be committed by white Christians. Does that mean that I don't understand that a threat exists from Muslim terrorists? Please.

There are some radicals out there who want to attack Canada for that reason alone. They really do consider it sufficient justification.

Sure there are. But most are pissed at the west for other reasons. They recruit new terrorists by flaming us for our backing of Israel and for having a military presence in Arab lands.

Of course, I've never been recruited by a Muslim terrorist org, only an American one.

 

[jamiethearcher]

It was about time this happened - maybe the people of Canada will start getting their heads out of their ...... something or other...... now.

 

[Tulkas12]

Osama bin bama, or w/e has the totally rational plan of re-establishing the Muslim Caliphate across North Africa and the mid-east. Nothing irrational about that. We are all free to loathe each other as much as we want, as long as we don't get violent right?

 

[pboily]

jamie, what exactly were we supposed to learn from this that we didn't already know? That terrorists recruit young people? that you do not need a Patriot Act to foil their plans?

Edit: while we're at it, a good thing to remember is that there have already been terrorist attacks against Canada (in fact, the most `succesful' one-day attack pre-September 11 was Air India Flight 182.)

 

[De Lorimier]

Innnnnnnnnnnndeed!
The idea that people are not aware of the possible terrorist threat is ludicrous. As far as I know, some fundies crashed their planes in a city that's a seven hours drive away from my home in 2001. Border or not, I felt attacked at that time and I know most people here did too. The CSIS, RCMP and CBSA have been aware of this threat and working against it, what more could we ask for?

 

[Cheezy the Wiz]

Way to go Canada, baggin the terrorists!