The Abortion and Vaccination Thread

[Senethro]

Actually the family courts were an example of misandry, but not directly tethered to abortion. Family courts are trash in that they're a) separate from the regular justice system, b) overwhelmingly rule in a sexist fashion, and c) create degenerate financial incentives. Custody battles do not typically involve infants, these were only brought up as one piece of evidence to prove the statement of "no systemic misandry" false, not as something that reasonably moves the needle in "when should 3rd trimester abortions be allowed".

Uhhh, citation needed much? When? Which nations? Perhaps you could provide some stats to prove your facts a logical reality?

 

[TheMeInTeam]

Uhhh, citation needed much? When? Which nations? Perhaps you could provide some stats to prove your facts a logical reality?

I'll post some when I'm back on a better machine. Part c) is a logical conclusion, the others have data.

Edit: here's a snippet of how legal vs family court interact: http://ww2.nycourts.gov/sites/defau...es/2018-10/family-criminal-abuse-thoughts.pdf

As for part b: https://www.census.gov/content/dam/Census/library/publications/2016/demo/P60-255.pdf

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/08/150822154900.htm --> ~70% divorces initiated by women (figures vary slightly but are widely around this percentage)...and women are a lot more likely to initiate a breakup when married but not otherwise (financial payout). Women are overwhelmingly granted custody even in contested cases as well.

This is a start anyway.

 

[Farm Boy]

Yeah, as long as it's clear. They cannot be stated, because they don't exist. And so, if they never exist, it don't matter.

My son may care whether or not I dipped his sperm in turpentine before he was created, and can retroactively be upset if I damaged it. But if I dip sperm in turpentine, as long as no resulting person is created, there is no victim.

So, in some ways, only resented abortion is the ones that didn't happen. The off-spring might resent the fact that they were forced into existence

The remedy to life's pain has always been simple and unavoidable.

 

[El_Machinae]

There are many sources of suffering. The best we can do is trim away causes while helping each other through them.

 

[Farm Boy]

I'm not sure. That iterative wisdom is built on suffering. Some of it can be trimmed, some of it must do more. We can be better than that best?