Not by my beliefs.
My father is gay and has two straight offspring. Neither me nor my brother intends to father children. Do I need to say anything more?
The all new, totally accepted, bigotry thread - "Blame a Christian"
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Traitorfish
The Tighnahulish Kid
Imagine if everyone was called "Gregory". It would be chaos! Therefore, being called "Gregory" is incompatible with human nature.
Are you being serious? What the (figurative) hell is up with people who insist that atheists will suffer eternal damnation?
Yes! Because I don't see how not allowing homosexuals to marry would help in such a scenario. Nor how it would help prevent such a scenario. Nor how such a scenario could ever come about in the first place, regardless of what we legalize.
What a longwinded way to say "in my opinion".
Not as far as secular states are concerned. Religious people can make their own mind about whether they want to accept secular marriages as religiously meaningful.
Why do homosexuals have to justify their marriage with a purpose?
Ziggy Stardust
Absolutely Sane
I get it. Nature needs marriage to be about breeding.
Because nature thinks there aren't enough of us already.
No, you've said quite enough when you said gay marriage/parenting is related to all people being gay. Tells me all I need to know.
Well if you choose not to have kids its a bit different matter. The problem whould be if everybody would follow that way. You see what I am saying?
No it wouldnt. Just like everyone is called human being, man or person. How does ones name or change of it changes ones nature - not much I guess...
No I put it there for joke...
I think its the other way around, buddy. Marriage needs nature to be about breeding...
But more on topic: nature who evolved breeding can use marriage(morality) to evolve into its higher type in man.
I realy do not know what nature thinks
But I wouldnt be much suprised if at some future point this planet holds couple tens of billions of people...Dont missunderstand me pls. after all everything is related with everything...
No it is mainly the marriage who has to justify its existence by having a purpose...
Ziggy Stardust
Absolutely Sane
Sorry, but you're just not making sense mate.
MobBoss
Off-Topic Overlord
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Jewel Runner
Having unique names is incredibly useful for a functioning society. If every single person on earth was named Gregory, you'd have no way to refer to distinct individuals in conversation.
GhostWriter16
Deity
That the Bible quite literally says it?
And the citation would be?
GhostWriter16
Deity
One says 'condemned', another has Jesus say that you can't reach God except through him and the last is from Revelation. It's a little bit desperate when your only source relating to 'eternal damnation' is a millennial allegory.
Traitorfish
The Tighnahulish Kid
What's the "book of life", exactly? (I was raised Catholic, and they tend to consider Revelations weird and honestly a bit embarrassing, so it didn't come up.) Is there some reason to think that atheists are categorically excluded from its pages?
GhostWriter16
Deity
I'm almost certain the orthodox Catholic position is to consider all of the Bible to be true, although not literally so, but you can check that one with Plotinus
The book of life is where those who are saved are recorded by name. But you have to look at the verses in John to understand. If you believe, you aren't condemned, but if you don't believe, you're condemned. It logically follows that a condemned person would not be recorded in the book of life.
holy king
Deity
frankly, when teaching kids about the bible, catholics are embarassed about pretty much everything but the gospels.
i can see why.
Link to video.
i can see why.
Link to video.
holy king
Deity
I'm almost certain the orthodox Catholic position is to consider all of the Bible to be true, although not literally so, but you can check that one with Plotinus
yeah, but the kids european catholics usually teach the bible to these days are predominantly from non-religious families, thus being a bit sceptical about god and the devil placing bets on a guy called job, a dragon throwing stars at earth or abraham being scared so shitless of his god that he's ready to kill his son.
Traitorfish
The Tighnahulish Kid
What is that you have to believe?I'm almost certain the orthodox Catholic position is to consider all of the Bible to be true, although not literally so, but you can check that one with Plotinus
The book of life is where those who are saved are recorded by name. But you have to look at the verses in John to understand. If you believe, you aren't condemned, but if you don't believe, you're condemned. It logically follows that a condemned person would not be recorded in the book of life.
