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The DYOS Consul

Discussion in 'Arts & Entertainment' started by Thorvald of Lym, Jul 17, 2013.

  1. Stylesrj

    Stylesrj Tabitha SEAL

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    Also, Photobucket doesn't like images more than 1mb big. It compresses it way down unnecessarily if you go one byte over the line.

    Indeed. Although I don't make my comics fit that resolution... at least not any more :lol:

    I'd say the art medium I use limits me from cool action scenes, but also... I like the sitcom approach. The Soap Opera feel.
    DYOS isn't all about action after all, it's about people you don't know talking to each other about things you don't care too much about, and yet you watch it anyway... for what reason? I dunno, it was on television wasn't it? Hey did you know -insert female lead- is having a baby? And the father is -insert male lead's rival-?

    But yeah, unfortunately my style of writing focuses on dialogue a bit too much. I guess when I was told "Show, don't tell" I accidentally did the opposite.
    I think even my stories do that. Because I was told not to describe things, but have characters explain it or something like that to make it flow more into the story.
     
  2. GenMarshall

    GenMarshall Blood Elven Ghost Agent

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    That's odd coming from the Styles I knew who loved explosions galore and was bored of a desert scene with a tumble weed going by :p.

    I motion that Thorvald teach us the better way of comicing...in any medium.
     
  3. Thorvald of Lym

    Thorvald of Lym A Little Sketchy

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    Depends on the scene. I typically focus on one scenario at a time, although if I feel a comic reads a bit short I'll do a double-bill. It's also influenced a lot by how one plans ahead: since my shift to pencil my process has been as follows: 1) Conceive the scene, figure out what I want to say. 2) Mentally break the scene down into panels. 3) Based on the number of panels, plan the number of pages. It's a reciprocal process, but essentially I start by defining my work space and then fitting the comic to it. One of the easiest mistakes to make when doing cut-and-paste is to 'wing it' and just keep upping the dimensions to fit the new content. "Sydney Counterhack" was (barely) done on purpose; "The War of the Steppes" wasn't.

    As for width, it depends a lot on the resolution of the output. I've stuck with ~800px for consistency, but it's also about the smallest that my tiny handwriting remains legible. A wider page can fit more detail (read: panels) horizontally, but that's really a subset of the overall layout. I only get upset if I have to adjust my browser to fit it.

    Yours is fine.

    Whoa man, I'm just a hobbyist! Dae's the guy who's gonna make a career outta this!
     
  4. CivCube

    CivCube Trickster therapist.

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  5. GenMarshall

    GenMarshall Blood Elven Ghost Agent

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    I think that's my issue. Though I paste all my screen shots in Paint Shop Pro where I can arrange them in order and almost gotten them down. Though the thing I don't like about it is that It reduces the detail.

    I miss Dae :(.
     
  6. JohannaK

    JohannaK Heroically Clueless

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    Sincerely, I apologise to CG. I simply don't realise I'm criticising, so I just point out something and 'leave' the room. Width is fine, but yeah, it's basically what Thorvald says. There is not an ideal length, but a necessary length. Maybe you are trying to be more cinematographic than you need to, like the fight in your last comic, which are cool-looking pictures but half of which I really don't get. Also an example of this is the "Deal getting worse" joke, which is unnecessarily overextended and could use less panels.

    It's difficult, but you have to go to the roots of it all, to the essential basics, the minimum necessary. I haven't written or drawn my third page because every time I start thinking I realise I'm going to overextend it and thus I wipe it all and rethink it from scratch.
     
  7. choxorn

    choxorn Watermelon Headcrab

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    My comics are probably also too long, I'm just not sure how to shorten them.
     
  8. GenMarshall

    GenMarshall Blood Elven Ghost Agent

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    We shall learn togeather. I just finished my "For the Republic" comic page (in a long time) using three panels!

    There is a panel that I wish I could do, but don't know how.

     
  9. Valka D'Ur

    Valka D'Ur Hosting Iron Pen in A&E Retired Moderator

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    This sounds like storyboarding, which is extremely useful for working out problems before they happen in the final product. :)

    There's no reason hobbyists can't give great advice, if they know what they're talking about. :yup:


    CivGeneral, and everyone else: Please understand that I don't have a problem with the content of your work. My problem is that it's just too big and I can't even go into the thread without risking my computer freezing/crashing because it can't manage. That's why I suggested using spoiler tags so all those Very Large Images aren't all trying to load at once.
     
  10. Tee Kay

    Tee Kay Silly furry

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    That's one issue. The sheer volume of comics where very little actually happened of consequence. The reader loses interest quickly.

    Yes.

    That's my view too.

    Maybe it needs a laugh track.
     
  11. Thorvald of Lym

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    It's funny because when I look at how I script, it's a lot like film.

    Drat, I had a video for this but YouTube ate it.
     
  12. Valka D'Ur

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    Back when Script Frenzy was still running (a contest run by the same people as those doing NaNoWriMo), there were some links to some excellent storyboarding programs. I found them quite useful, even though my script bogged down quite quickly (note to self: when trying Script Frenzy for the first time, do not get overambitious and attempt to adapt God Emperor of Dune :crazyeye:).
     
  13. Stylesrj

    Stylesrj Tabitha SEAL

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    Yeah but they're a real pain to animate and keep together.
    And then I lost Fallout 3 functionality and I'm too lazy to re-install it.

    Well we're having a bit of trouble starting the arc proper. There is no real bad guy to face yet... or a global artefact. It's all little items and little bad guys and each person has their own.
    We need a Monkey Statue or a Hacker to get this convoy rolling!

    And this for transitions


    Link to video.
     
  14. NinjaCow64

    NinjaCow64 Thought Bubble Thinker Supporter

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    Don't worry...I'm working on something that could fit that criteria. :p
     
  15. Stylesrj

    Stylesrj Tabitha SEAL

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    Thank you Ninjacow! :worship:
     
  16. NinjaCow64

    NinjaCow64 Thought Bubble Thinker Supporter

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    Speaking of Mangoes, which is the current DYOS Wiki? Should I bother editing it, or should I wait for the move?
     
  17. choxorn

    choxorn Watermelon Headcrab

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    Wait, are we still moving?
     
  18. Thorvald of Lym

    Thorvald of Lym A Little Sketchy

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    Wikkii appears to be stable, and given I never actually received any input, I'm thinking no.
     
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    It 503'd me three times today. And it's really slow.
     
  20. Chukchi Husky

    Chukchi Husky Lone Wolf

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    At the moment it seems like the internet regulation comes off like an inconvenience. The way I thought how it could work, is for the characters to try and discover the real cause behind the regulation. Who will profit the most or will gain the most? Who wants to control access to information? Is there anyone who wants to keep themselves hidden so much that they take control of the internet? The ideas I had could lead to a conspiracy based plot.
     

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