The Fifth Element(film)

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Hell, they didn't even have a main bad guy that made sense. What was its motivation? What was it exactly? Why the hell did it care about earth?

Evil wants to exterminate all life, that's all the motivation that it needs. That's why it's considered "Evil."

Even more importantly, why was Zorg helping it? What was their common motivation. I mean, Zorg is a captain of industry on EARTH. Why the hell would he be interested in destroying EARTH? The movie sure as hell doesn't tell you why.

Do you remember the scene where he talks to the priest about needing to destroy things in order to create something else, and winds up choking on a cherry?
 
Oh come on, are you really going to tell me that if I divorced the characters from those pretty CGI sets and clothes IN THE FUTURE would you find any of them something other than cookie cutter knockoffs with dialogue that makes you cringe? Seriously?
This isn't a thread about Star Trek.
 
Thats cool and all, but that was in regards to his own arms industry NOT completely destroying the entire planet said industry is no. Also, presumably himself, he didn't seem at all interested in leaving the planet until the stone thing forced him to.

Just admit it, the bad guys were one dimensional and lacked any logical motivation other than to be the bad guys. That's fine, but lets not pretend that constitutes a master stroke of writing.
 
Just admit it, the bad guys were one dimensional and lacked any logical motivation other than to be the bad guys. That's fine, but lets not pretend that constitutes a master stroke of writing.

This isn't a thread about Star Wars, either.
 
Actually, it's terrifically hard to name more than a few 'really good' sci-fi movies. Like, good on all elements.
 
The same can be said for science fiction in general - no science fiction novel or short story is of high literature quality. There has never been a science fiction movie which has won best picture, either.

When you're dealing with science fiction, you're already dealing with material of an inherently lower quality. Complaining about poor acting, writing, or one dimensional characters are irrelevant because that is fundamental to the genre. Science fiction is a cult phenomenon, not suited for either popular culture (outside of childrens' films, in which aesthetic quality is irrelevant) or high culture, and this is one of the main reasons. You compare science fiction with science fiction, not with good films or novels.
 
The same can be said for science fiction in general - no science fiction novel or short story is of high literature quality. There has never been a science fiction movie which has won best picture, eiter.
Ironically, one has won the Nobel Peace Prize.
 
Well I liked the film.It's obvious it's not meant to be serious, guys, come on!!!
This isn't a thread about Star Trek.
:thumbsup: Indeed it is not.
This isn't a thread about Star Wars, either.
:thumbsdown: What? I'm sure of one thign about your post… it's a trap!
Actually, it's terrifically hard to name more than a few 'really good' sci-fi movies. Like, good on all elements.
This movie has only five :p
I don't think movies or books can win the Nobel Peace Prize.
There's a Literature prize…
 
big badda boom!

excellent movie.
 
One of my favourites. Milla Jovovich was way hot in this, and the bandage wrap outfit she wore was kick-ass.
 
I don't think movies or books can win the Nobel Peace Prize.
I was talking about Al Gore winning on the strength of An Inconvenient Truth (which is a [bad] sci-fi thriller for anyone who knows the science)
 
Bill3000 said:
The same can be said for science fiction in general - no science fiction novel or short story is of high literature quality.

Of course I do. I just read good books, not genre fiction.

List of "High literature" said:
H. G. Wells
The Science Fiction Novels

D. H. Lawrence
Complete Short Stories

I'm not sure if you're serious, but you did make me laugh. I imagine you are also one of those who think that animated movies are only suitable for children(excluding tentacle rape hentai etc).
 
You've forgotten Aldous Huxley's Brave New World.
 
Science fiction is better than other literature because it is about what can be.
 
Blade Runner was a pretty terrible movie and gets more points against it for poor adaptation - Fifth Element did a far better job with its portrayal of the future. It was a really fun movie, not the most serious, but pretty fun.
 
No love for On the Beach, potentialy the most depressing book I have ever read?
 
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