The Myers-Briggs Personality Test

[Heretic_Cata]

Maybe they're right more then you are willing to admit

I wish.
I'm just depressed now (just like in the past 3 days) and i am acting impulsively ... i would be surprised if i wouldn't get a warning at least in the next few days, kuz this depression seems to be geting stronger with every thing i do. I already disapointed at least 1 person per day in the past 3 days... first day 1 person , second day - 2, third day 4. What will tomorrow hold ?...

 

[Odin2006]

INTP

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INTPs lack follow-through and this can isolate their ideas from practical examination. Their notions become over-intellectualized and too abstract to be of practical benefit. With their sharp critical thinking and analytical abilities, INTPs tend to nit-pick, hair-split, and generally overdo simple issues. Their desire for accuracy and precision exacerbates any error they may perceive in themselves or in others — they are, in other words, highly self-critical. Wanting to be competent and know everything, their standards grow increasingly higher. When fear of failing becomes overly pronounced, INTPs are quick to feel unintelligent, slow, and powerless.

If stress continues, the INTP's mind seems to freeze and block out the vital information it has worked so hard to accumulate. Their creative juices stop flowing and they suffer from stage fright, writers block, and a general inhibition of their ingenious thinking and fluent language skills. Preoccupied with performance failure, INTPs become self-consciously distracted in anticipation of their failure. If the stress becomes too overwhelming, the fear of blanking out prevents them from taking risks in areas they desire to succeed in. Attempting to avoid incompetence, they fail to gain the expertise and mastery they so desperately need.
Careers

This lists represent careers and jobs people of your type tend to enjoy doing. The job requirements are similar to the personality tendencies of your personality type. It is important to remember that this is not a list of all the jobs possible. And it is very important to remember that people can, and frequently do, fill jobs that are dissimilar to their personality... this happens all the time...and sometimes works out quite well.

strategic planning
writer
staff development
lawyer
architect
software designer
financial analyst
college professor
photographer
logician
artist
systems analyst
neurologist
physicist
psychologist
research/development...specialist
computer programmer
data base manager
chemist
biologist
investigator

 

[Sidhe]

A test doesn't have to be completely accurate to have worth. If it is right on most of the questions in regards to most of the people that take the test, then it has a lot of value.

Yes, there are exceptions. When someone takes an IQ, test, they could just feel pressured, not have gotten enough sleep, etc. But IQ tests have been mostly consistent for decades. If someone takes it at age 2, 10, 20 and 40, there is minimal variation. The test has shown that consistency. It does a good job of evaluating visual, spatial and logical intellectual capabilities.

Of course the complexity of our intelligence is more than we can measure. Much less figure out how to enhance or even use that knowledge of the person's strengths and weaknesses wisely.

There have been other tests devised to learn about other factors. Just because we can't "fix" people or whatever doesn't mean we can't figure out a lot of information about them.

Using a good random sampling (the questions on the test) can be indicative of how that person will feel when the questions are extrapolated. Sure, we can't capture the full complexity of the person or life, but that doesn't eliminate the value of the test. Beyond entertainment.

IQ tests are the worst, the biggest factor in determining ability intellectually is creativity. Great thinkers of our time have the ability to think outside of the envelope, to be intuitive and to form abstractions beyond the norm, something that's unmeasurable. I wouldn't give you five cents for the paper an IQ test is written on(and neither would most intelectuals) And anyway there fairly unrepresentative, if I took two urchin twins from the streets of bangalore iliterate and with no education and educated one in the finest schools and the other I left alone who'd have the highest IQ? Past 12 IQ is a reflection of education level more than Intelligence. That's another reason why it's not particularly a good test. IQ tests are crude at best(it's like measuring weight by picking an object up as oposed to using scales) For example certain conditions would lower your IQ but would not mean you weren't extremely intelligent, some by as many as 20/30. Since Einstein was allegedly a vitim of everything from a rare form of autism to dyslexia to you name it, I would imagine his IQ would be remarkably low, considering his actual intelligence. I'm a case in point as a child I was skipped ahead a couple of years and narrowly missed being sent to the school for the gifted(my mother decided I should stay with my friends) However if my teachers would have gone by my cognitive tests instead of what they actually observed, I would never have been considered. Of course now, my IQ results would be better, I've had 20 years to overcome the disadvantages, but back then I just thank God no one ever took any notice of the tests apart from to remark how inconsistent they were

 

[kingjoshi]

IQ tests are the worst, the biggest factor in determining ability intellectually is creativity. Great thinkers of our time have the ability to think outside of the envelope, to be intuitive and to form abstractions beyond the norm, something that's unmeasurable. I wouldn't give you five cents for the paper an IQ test is written on(and neither would most intelectuals) And anyway there fairly unrepresentative, if I took two urchin twins from the streets of bangalore iliterate and with no education and educated one in the finest schools and the other I left alone who'd have the highest IQ? Past 12 IQ is a reflection of education level more than Intelligence. That's another reason why it's not particularly a good test. IQ tests are crude at best(it's like measuring weight by picking an object up as oposed to using scales) For example certain conditions would lower your IQ but would not mean you weren't extremely intelligent, some by as many as 20/30. Since Einstein was allegedly a vitim of everything from a rare form of autism to dyslexia to you name it, I would imagine his IQ would be remarkably low, considering his actual intelligence. I'm a case in point as a child I was skipped ahead a couple of years and narrowly missed being sent to the school for the gifted(my mother decided I should stay with my friends) However if my teachers would have gone by my cognitive tests instead of what they actually observed, I would never have been considered. Of course now, my IQ results would be better, I've had 20 years to overcome the disadvantages, but back then I just thank God no one ever took any notice of the tests apart from to remark how inconsistent they were

I never claimed IQ tests measured creativity, much less that all encompassing ill-defined term, "intelligence". Regardless of what it's designed for and how many people foolishly interpret it, its consistency makes it good for some things. It's strengths are visual-spatial and logical intelligence. And to some degree of linguistic intelligence. However, if someone is illiterate or doesn't read that particular language well, obviously you'll need to devise another test. that's so obvious that I shouldn't have to mention it!

Are you incapable of comprehending what I post or unwilling? Or are you just a troll?

 

[Sidhe]

I never claimed IQ tests measured creativity, much less that all encompassing ill-defined term, "intelligence". Regardless of what it's designed for and how many people foolishly interpret it, its consistency makes it good for some things. It's strengths are visual-spatial and logical intelligence. And to some degree of linguistic intelligence. However, if someone is illiterate or doesn't read that particular language well, obviously you'll need to devise another test. that's so obvious that I shouldn't have to mention it!

Are you incapable of comprehending what I post or unwilling? Or are you just a troll?

Think you missed the point obviously the indian kid learnt to read and write, even on the streets of Bangalore people learn that, what I mean is he lacked education not literacy when the test was taken. And yes I'm a troll obviously, I just like righting long paragraphs to wind people up

IQ tests suck which still doesn't explain why people still use them, because there as indicative of intelligence as you yourself mentioned? What use are they then?

 

[stormbind]

I wonder how current disposition affects the results?

Introvert: 52%
iNtuition: 70%
Feeling: 64%
Perceiving: 52%

Each result carries an error of +/- 15%, right?

 

[stormbind]

INFPs feel internal turmoil when they find themselves in situations in which there is conflict between their inner code of ethics and their relationships with others.
True
They feel caught between pleasing others and maintaining their own integrity.
True
Their natural tendency to identify with others, compounded with their self-sacrificial dispositions, tends to leave them confused as to who they really are.
True
Their quiet personalities further feeds their feelings of depersonalization.
True
The INFP's quest for self-identity then seems even more alluring

Edit: this wasn't all of it. vBulletin chopped off the rest of my post - huh?

 

[stormbind]

I wish.
I'm just depressed now (just like in the past 3 days) and i am acting impulsively ... i would be surprised if i wouldn't get a warning at least in the next few days, kuz this depression seems to be geting stronger with every thing i do. I already disapointed at least 1 person per day in the past 3 days... first day 1 person , second day - 2, third day 4. What will tomorrow hold ?...

I have noticed that too. I'm just not myself while depressed, and not able to meet people's expectations - cannot even meet my own expectations!!

 

[Sidhe]

I have noticed that too. I'm just not myself while depressed, and not able to meet people's expectations - cannot even meet my own expectations!!

Precisely everythings just that bit more difficult when you feel down. Like sometimes I used to try and do something simple and it woul fox me for about a minute. Also your thoughts just arent representative of how you would feel about anything 90% of the time? I always compared it to a pathological state, and at times I would say I was somewhat insane.

 

[stormbind]

Also your thoughts just arent representative of how you would feel about anything 90% of the time?

My memory is faulty so cannot answer honestly

Maybe now wasn't the best time to post results of a personality test

 

[kingjoshi]

First, I've said this many times, "intelligence" is an ill-defined term. We do not have a comprehensive definition for it, much less a consensus. So it cannot be objectively tested. In psychology, when you test for "aggression", you have to objectively define it. Kids that become "more aggressive" from watching violence, what exactly does that mean? They fight more? Use bad language? Becoming greedy with toys? Likewise with "intelligence". In this discussion we've never defined it fully and as I've said, IQ test doesn't test for whatever it is anyway.

IQ tests became more popular due to the US Army when they began to use it during WWI. Decades of study have shown its consistency and number of correlations. Sure, correlation does not mean causation, but it sure as heck does tell you something!

You're right, someone who is autistic or with another such trait would score below average on a test. And if they're a savant, they would be highly capable at one field but score poorly on this test. But as I said before, the exceptions to the rule does not invalidate value for the test.

Think you missed the point obviously the indian kid learnt to read and write, even on the streets of Bangalore people learn that, what I mean is he lacked education not literacy when the test was taken.

In the developed world, where you don't have to worry about malnutrition or other factors stunting mental development, environment shows little influence on IQ scores. Using twins, adoptions and the like in studies, IQ scores have a heritablity score of .5 and .75 after adulthood. Which means that it's HIGHLY influenced by genetic factors. By adulthood, environmental factors disappear in correlation studies in regards to influence.

IQ tests suck which still doesn't explain why people still use them, because there as indicative of intelligence as you yourself mentioned? What use are they then?

A minor use of IQ tests is for mental retardation. Scoring below 70 means you cannot be put under the death penalty. The SCOTUS determined that would fall under cruel and unusual punishment. Scoring below 70 would require being in the bottom of the 0.5% of IQ scores. It may be an indication of mental retardation (the test itself doesn't claim one way or the other) but the SCOTUS felt it was sufficient evidence for the case.

But the test is often done not to judge individuals. I'm not an expert on this so I don't know, but I don't know of many places doing IQ tests to determine someone's quality of acceptance or anything.

In academic use, most often use is to test correlations. People use the IQ test because it's been consistent and reliable. It's shown high correlation with other tests devised to test intelligence. So while it doesn't capture the general term, most who study it probably believe there is some correlation with the test score and certain factors it does test (which I've already mentioned, visual-spatial and logic intelligence. both very symbolic types of intelligence).

And yes I'm a troll obviously, I just like righting long paragraphs to wind people up

Then why didn't you take the time to read what I wrote instead of attacking one point of the whole thing? It seems like you take the "hard atheist" view (by your definition) on this topic and then seem ignorant on the topic itself.

Me mentioning IQ tests was just one example. You can use personality tests that have been devised. You can study them up on Wikipedia. There's even an article on the Myers-Briggs !

 

[Sidhe]

I didn't expect the Spanish inquisition!(oops wrong thread)

OK keep your hair on I just don't think using crude tests is a good way to judge people or to make decisions on their future, in fact it's a piss poor way, get the guy down their and give him the third degree, will probably give you a better idea. Of course alot of people wouldn't even make it that far if you use testing alone, nm. If I'm looking for the best person for say a job or a research post, I don't look at his IQ or his job suitability test or whatever, I look at his experience his education, but most importantly himself.

I just have a distrust of them in anything but a sort of fun, interesting thread type scenario.

 

[Taliesin]

I retook it and scored ENFJ, but only the F and J are significant:

EI: 8 out of 17
Extrovert |-------------------------------------------------| Introvert
|
47%
SN: 9 out of 17
Sensation |-------------------------------------------------| iNtuition
|
52%
TF: 14 out of 17
Thinking |-------------------------------------------------| Feeling
|
82%
JP: 7 out of 17
Judging |-------------------------------------------------| Perceiving
|
41%

This is a bit strange, because last time Introvert was the only trait which was very strongly expressed.

 

[kingjoshi]

Your personality can change. So if you feel different due to whatever reasons, the results of the test will differ.

 

[Heretic_Cata]

I have noticed that too. I'm just not myself while depressed, and not able to meet people's expectations - cannot even meet my own expectations!!

Hey i think my depression passed (for today at least). It's the strangest thing, even though i disapointed so many ppl, i achieved smthing today (almost on my own) and the bad things i did are no longer important kuz i cling to this good deed and it makes me happy. It has been a looooong time since i went to sleep in a good mood.
Anyway - sorry for the OT. I am at peace again.

 

[Sidhe]

Hey i think my depression passed (for today at least). It's the strangest thing, even though i disapointed so many ppl, i achieved smthing today (almost on my own) and the bad things i did are no longer important kuz i cling to this good deed and it makes me happy. It has been a looooong time since i went to sleep in a good mood.
Anyway - sorry for the OT. I am at peace again.

you might want to look at perpetuating that achieving something and forgetting about the bad stuff, the bad stuff is an anchor the good stuff is a blessing, depression is a git because it feeds itself. If you can stop pushing that rock for just a moment and you can figure out how to leave it where it is and continue over the hill, then your sorted. Still baby steps I guess

 

[kingjoshi]

I didn't expect the Spanish inquisition!(oops wrong thread)

NOBODY expects the Spanish Inquisition! Our chief weapon is surprise...surprise and fear...fear and surprise.... Our two weapons are fear and surprise...and ruthless efficiency.... Our *three* weapons are fear, surprise, and ruthless efficiency...and an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope.... Our *four*...no... *Amongst* our weapons.... Amongst our weaponry...are such elements as fear, surprise.... I'll come in again.

 

[stormbind]

Did anyone come out as ESFP?

I think I would like to know an ESFP...

 

[CaptainF]

Why does this test only list your negative characteristics or what you do when you get stressed?

Is this test intended to make you feel like a loser?

 

[Paalikles]

INTJ

Personality type results

EI: 13 out of 17
Extrovert |-------------------------------------------------| Introvert
                                               |
                                              76%
SN: 9 out of 16
Sensation |-------------------------------------------------| iNtuition
                                     |
                                    56%
TF: 6 out of 17
Thinking  |-------------------------------------------------| Feeling
                          |
                         35%
JP: 3 out of 17
Judging   |-------------------------------------------------| Perceiving
                 |
                17%

Your Personality type is INTJ