The New Soviet Union in 2017

Is there a chance of a new Soviet Union coming of Age

  • Yes there will be a new Soviet Union

    Votes: 21 27.6%
  • Its unlikely that there will be a new Soviet Union

    Votes: 23 30.3%
  • No there is no change of an new Soviet Union

    Votes: 27 35.5%
  • Other

    Votes: 5 6.6%

  • Total voters
    76

Ahovking

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It all started on April 2,1996 where Russia and Belarus formed the Commonwealth of Russia and Belarus on April 2, 1996.The basis of the union was strengthened on April 2, 1997, with the signing of the "Treaty on the Union between Belarus and Russia" at which time its name was changed to the Union of Belarus and Russia

Proposed flag for the new Union
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The state secretary of the Union State of Belarus and Russia Pavel Borodin on Friday argued that a new Soviet Union is likely to come into being by 2017 as the result of the emergent customs union of Belarus, Russia and Kazakhstan.
It is “an unprecedented step toward the restoration of the Soviet Union. I give you journalists a directive to write that Soviet space will be restored in 2017,” Borodin told a news conference in Minsk.
He said he saw 2017 as a symbolic date because the Bolsheviks established their rule in 1917.
He predicted that the customs union of Belarus, Russia and Kazakhstan would be an efficient institution and that other former Soviet republics would soon seek to join it.
“We will take Georgia and Ukraine into the customs union,” he said.

Contemplated expansion
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Abkhazia: currently has observer status in parliamentary sessions. In informal statements, the prime ministers of the republics of Abkhazia and South Ossetia, currently recognised only by Russia, Nicaragua, Venezuela, and Nauru; but with Belarus having announced its intention to follow suit, have expressed interest in joining the Union with the Spokesman of the Union reciprocating this interest. No formal requests known so far.


The Union State (beige), along with states that have expressed interest in joining the Union (green) and other members of the CIS (pink).

Kazakhstan has expressed interest in forming a separate customs union with Russia and Belarus by 2010. Kazakhstan has mentioned that it may join the Union State after some time.

Kyrgyzstan, as of June 2007, opposition in Kyrgyzstan, which has been locked in political turmoil, has initiated a nationwide referendum to join the union of Russia and Belarus.

Moldova In 2001, president of Moldova Vladimir Voronin announced right after his election that he has plans for Moldova to join the Union of Russia and Belarus. The coming to power of the Alliance for European Integration at the 2009 Moldovan elections has since shifted Moldovan interest towards the European Union.

Serbia In 1999 the Parlliament of the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia voted for the country to join the Union. In 2007 Tomislav Nikolic said during a speech that he wished that Serbia would strengthen its ties with and eventually join the Union State[18]. Serbia has since submitted its application to the EU.

Ukraine On March 30, 2010 it was announced by the President of Ukaine Viktor

Yanukovich that Ukraine might join the Union State. On April 28, 2010 it was revealed in a poll that 63% of Ukrainians are in favour of joining the Union State

South Ossetia: currently has observer status in parliamentary sessions. In informal statements, Abkhazian and South Ossetian prime ministers have expressed interest in joining the Union with the Spokesman of the Union reciprocating this interest. No formal requests known so far.

Transnistria: in the Transnistrian referendum of 2006 97.2 % of the population voted for a reunion of Transnistria with the Russian Federation, which analysts say indicates a possibility that Transnistria might unilaterally ask to join the Union, once it is established. Already in spring 1998, 66.5 % of Transnistrian voters supported joining the Union of Russia and Belarus in a non-binding referendum by the Transnistrian state.However, not being recognised by either member, this is unlikely to happen in the near future.

http://www.eutimes.net/2009/12/soviet-union-to-be-restored-in-the-form-of-new-customs-union-by-2017/
 
I don't see any indication that a new union comprised of former members of the USSR would be in any way Soviet.
 
The Soviet Union was good for the Slavs, maybe this union will be good for Slavs too
 
Well... while they have a customs union and all that jazz, I think it will be a long while before they enter a federation or some such and give actual power to the supranational level. If it's taken the EU this long to integrate, imagine what a union dominated by Russia would take. More power to the states would fix the problem, but as federalism seems to be oh-so-hated by so many people(or at least that's the image CFC paints), that won't happen either.

In conclusion: The EU will unify into a functional entity and the Americas will unify into a functional entity de facto ruled by the United States before Russia can join the "liek OMG let's join hands with our neighborz" crowd; I use the latter example because I think the continents are as warm to US domination as the former SSRs are to Russian.
 
The Americas will never form a federal or supranational entity ruled by the United States. And I assume many in the ex-soviet republics and other ex-members of the Warsow Pact think the same way as to Russia.

Said that, ther may be some arrangements between Russia and some of its neighbours, customs unions and others.
 
This will be as likely as a new Nazi Germany in 2017.
 
If you think Russia has any chance of returning to communism in only 7 years, nevermind a longer time, then you are either willfully ignorant about any form of geopolitics or you're just a colossal idiot.
 
Ahoviking, you're probably among the greatest Slavophiles I know! But in any case, will a new Soviet Union form? No.

What will probably happen is that in a bunch of former Soviet/Warsaw Pact states, new found Russian oil wealth will fuel an expansion of Russian interests. Outright control of a country is not possible in this present time but extreme influence like what the US has over South Korea is quite possible in say Belarus.... no idea why Russia would want to expand into Belarus though. It's a podunk country.
 
Good lord, the Nazi UFOlogists at eutimes.net strikes again with another unlikely scenario...

Haven't we already had a couple of threads poking fun at this 'news' publication?
 
The EU will unify into a functional entity and the Americas will unify into a functional entity de facto ruled by the United States before Russia can join the "liek OMG let's join hands with our neighborz" crowd; I use the latter example because I think the continents are as warm to US domination as the former SSRs are to Russian.

No, it will not.

The Americas will never form a federal or supranational entity ruled by the United States. And I assume many in the ex-soviet republics and other ex-members of the Warsow Pact think the same way as to Russia.

Context is important. Important part bolded. The Americas would unite and Europe would unite before Russia would even have a chance in hell of forming a new USSR to lord over the nations of the first one.
 
A new customs union isn't the same as a new Soviet state.
 
yano. Definitely not going to happen.
 
If a handful of stable states like the European Union are already having marriage problems, than there is virtually no chance that these things will hold together in any meaningful form.

My guess is there will just continue to a revolving door of customs unions and treaties that go in and out based on the politics of the involved countries.
 
lol you are all wrong comparing the EU to the US.
the EU is artificial buerucratic mess. The US is logical, because for so long Belarus and Russia are dependent on each other and very interconnected. For instance, Belarus is still very industrial. Industrial products include stuffed animals, linens and tractors which are very common in russia. So Belarus + Russia are brothers.

I bet in EU you do not call each other this. So EU is completely different thing.
No it is not Soviet Union. Slavic Union :) oh including Kazakhstan.
 
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