The Official "GATTACA!!!"-gate Thread!

I thought quoting Gattaca/1984/whatever to make a point was reserved for 15 year old english students?
 
This may hurt Sinator Paul in the GOP Presidential Primaries. What kind of real conservative thinks wikipedia has anything worth stealing? He should have stole from conservapedia.


Good point. Conservapedia on Gattaca:

Spoiler Gives away Gattaca's ending :
A condemnation of human genetic engineering, and a wonderful triumph of individualism in an extremely totalitarian regime. Unfortunately the movie ends with a materialistic message: "They say every atom in our bodies was once a part of a star. So, maybe I'm not leaving, maybe I'm going home" (A phrase said when the protagonist finally managed to go to space).
 
If this is an issue, then surely Tolkien needs to be blasted from beyond the grave for ripping off the folk song "Ring of Fire." I mean, come on, Gollum falling into lava while wearing the one ring? Where else could he have gotten that? And... it turns out (CITING... ACCORDING TO WIKIPEDIA!) that the song was ripped from a book of Elizabethan poetry.
 
No, but I do think we should expect and ask politicians to not quote wikipedia verbatim when they are developing their poorly-formed analogies.

I'm in this camp. I get that it is inconvenient when speaking, especially extemporaneously, to keep all your sources straight and cite each one meticulously. People would get bored and tune out. I'd be willing (if I were a politician) to footnote press releases with the appropriate references, though.

I'm not going to lie, as far as storms in teacups go, this seems a disappointingly tepid squall.

The issue with plagiarism scandals is usually not the initial instance, but what it indicates about the character and what else it uncovers. The Biden plagiarism scandal blew up because it was found he pulled it a few more times than just the one speech where he forgot to refer to Kinnock.

We are up to 3 instances now for Randy Paul.

Yeah, this doesn't seem worth discussing for me. No penises, no sexting, and nobody's dead... yet.

I know I've been playing around with it, but I'm going to have to disagree here. Mr. Libertarian, from that interview, doesn't understand what plagiarism even is, and has apparently done this repeatedly.

This may hurt Sinator Paul in the GOP Presidential Primaries. What kind of real conservative thinks wikipedia has anything worth stealing? He should have stole from conservapedia.

Yeah, this. But it's going to score him some points with the stoner college kid vote. "Hey man, he reads wikipedia and likes Gattaca too?" :smoke:
 
SPOILERS VRWCAgent! What if it turned out that not everyone in this thread saw the movies :( (let alone the books yeah, whatever, Tom Bombadill and his 100 pages of Lord of the Yawn I couldn't handle reading any more of it).
 
My point was that most of the people I know think that this is something dumb to focus on, not that their judgement particularly matters, besides the fact that many of them will be voting in 2016.


The fact that a major political candidate clearly has no ethics isn't something to focus on? :crazyeye:
 
SPOILERS VRWCAgent! What if it turned out that not everyone in this thread saw the movies :( (let alone the books yeah, whatever, Tom Bombadill and his 100 pages of Lord of the Yawn I couldn't handle reading any more of it).

:mad: I'm kicking you next time join #fiftychat!! -NOBODY- hates on Tom and gets away with it! You better be ready to be kissing the feet of the river daughter while you're at it.
 
What happens when you find out that your child's mental development stopped at about age 14 after he read Atlas Shrugged? Shouldn't there be some sort of option available to deal with that?
Reminds me of the South Park episode where Cartman's mom wanted a late term abortion (120th month).

If this is an issue, then surely Tolkien needs to be blasted from beyond the grave for ripping off the folk song "Ring of Fire." I mean, come on, Gollum falling into lava while wearing the one ring? Where else could he have gotten that? And... it turns out (CITING... ACCORDING TO WIKIPEDIA!) that the song was ripped from a book of Elizabethan poetry.
I know you're joking, but "ripping off" isn't a thing, and even less a crime. All art is inherently derivative.

I'm seriously confused as to how voluntary (personal) eugenics is against libertarian principles.
I guess in the movie it's mostly wrong because it's state sanctioned.

But a libertarian would likely argue against it the same way they would against abortion.
 
But a libertarian would likely argue against it the same way they would against abortion.

I can see the objection to abortion, but the eugenics angle seems ... inappropriate to the theme he stands for. i.e., the eugenics would be a feature worth pursuing.
 
:mad: I'm kicking you next time join #fiftychat!! -NOBODY- hates on Tom and gets away with it! You better be ready to be kissing the feet of the river daughter while you're at it.

Tom Bombaboring amirite?
 
I can see the objection to abortion, but the eugenics angle seems ... inappropriate to the theme he stands for. i.e., the eugenics would be a feature worth pursuing.
I understand eugenics as the choice between fertilized eggs at the very earliest, which abortion opponents tend to consider life and therefore worthy of protection. Choosing one of them over the others could be considered abortion of the rest of them.

(You'd probably have to object to fertilization clinics as well then, but the interference still makes it a different quality.)
 
Naw, you can get eugenics earlier than that, else sterlizing the unworthy wouldn't be forced eugenics.
 
My point was that most of the people I know think that this is something dumb to focus on, not that their judgement particularly matters, besides the fact that many of them will be voting in 2016.
I agree that Rand Paul is a dumb thing to focus on.

Naw, you can get eugenics earlier than that, else sterlizing the unworthy wouldn't be forced eugenics.
Okay, right. But that takes us away from the plot of Gattaca I suppose, which I was mainly thinking about.
 
Paul uses wiki summaries and Rachel Maddow is there to raise a fuss, Obama lies about the health care program and not a peep from our intrepid journalist

partisan hacks dont impress me
 
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