The "OMG! Look what happened!" Thread

At first, I didn't realize what was so hilarious in this pic. I won't tell you, but I'll give you a hint: rifling.

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Isn't it annoying to have that message ... Wins a Historical Victory!!!! the rest of the time you play?

Not really. What annoys me more is the inability to see the little animation showing the changes in cultural borders after the victory.

You must have been playing Viceroy or have been cheating... otherwise... WTH!
Lol, no calendar?

I had the Pyramids. Of course I'd delay Calendar for as long as possible!
 
What Firaxis shouldv'e done is make it so that the quests could be refused.
 
Germany has always been great at protecting England from harm, right?

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The English (Anglo-Saxons) people are historically descendents from Germans and Danes, so they have an ethnical connection with Vikings and Germany.

BTW, I see England as a vassal of Germany all the time. Those Germans are eager to vassalize all of Europe if they could. Just like IRL some 70 years ago... :p
 
The English (Anglo-Saxons) people are historically descendents from Germans and Danes, so they have an ethnical connection with Vikings and Germany.

BTW, I see England as a vassal of Germany all the time. Those Germans are eager to vassalize all of Europe if they could. Just like IRL some 70 years ago... :p

That was capitulation they wanted, not peacevassaling.
 
That was capitulation they wanted, not peacevassaling.

Not that such a scenario was even remotely thinkable, but if Churchill would've peacefully vassalized to the Germans to avoid a war, I think Hitler would've accepted. I also recall from a documentary that Hitler was reluctant to go to war against England.

But if vassalizing to avoid war is the same as capitulation, I guess you're right.
 
It's a common misconception that Hitler ever wanted to occupy England. Before the war, he even gave in to the illusion that Britain would stay neutral or even become his ally, reasoning that they were their Germanic brothers. Even the French occupation was some kind of an accident, with Hitler's ambitions always being to expand eastward. Operation Seelöwe and the Battle of Britain were only means to quickly end British involvement to the war to be able to focus on the war against Russia, if they would have been successful.
 
Yes, it was France and England who declared war on Germany. Not the other way around.

So you could reason the French did it to themselves that Nazi's paraded in Paris some time later.

France 'took one for the team' so to speak, luckely 'thanks' to the Japanese the Americans got involved and you all know the rest of that story...
 
It's a common misconception that Hitler ever wanted to occupy England. Before the war, he even gave in to the illusion that Britain would stay neutral or even become his ally, reasoning that they were their Germanic brothers. Even the French occupation was some kind of an accident, with Hitler's ambitions always being to expand eastward. Operation Seelöwe and the Battle of Britain were only means to quickly end British involvement to the war to be able to focus on the war against Russia, if they would have been successful.
The House of Hanover changed their names
Yes, it was France and England who declared war on Germany. Not the other way around.

So you could reason the French did it to themselves that Nazi's paraded in Paris some time later.

France 'took one for the team' so to speak, luckely 'thanks' to the Japanese the Americans got involved and you all know the rest of that story...
Germany declared war on the US on December 11th 1941
 
Yes, it was France and England who declared war on Germany. Not the other way around.

Was it because of the Germans violating the Belgium independence, IIRC? If yes, this should explain why the French, who devoted all resources to a Metz-Mulhouse (approx) defensive line, were so shocked by the German attack.

But at least for France, there was a plan for war declaration.
 
Was it because of the Germans violating the Belgium independence, IIRC?

... Anyone still remembers about Poland?

were so shocked by the German attack

...because they didn't foresee that Germans can copy plan from IWW? Oh yeah, they did. They had 1 million troops there. However, Allies prefer to don't remember the fact because the less facts are remembered the more evil Hitler can be in minds of societies (and they are crystal pure in comparison). Anyway, it's a topic for a different thread.
 
... Anyone still remembers about Poland?



...because they didn't foresee that Germans can copy plan from IWW? Oh yeah, they did. They had 1 million troops there. However, Allies prefer to don't remember the fact because the less facts are remembered the more evil Hitler can be in minds of societies (and they are crystal pure in comparison). Anyway, it's a topic for a different thread.

Are you denying that Hitler was an evil man?
 
... Anyone still remembers about Poland?

I remember that in one of the two World Wars (not sure in which tho) the English DoWed the Germany, due to violating the Belgian independence. I also think that in WWI, Britain did nothing about it. So I assume it was the second (remember Dunkerque, IIRC there were British soldiers there)

As for Poland, yes, the German agreed w/ the Russians to invade the country and share it, I don't recall this to have provoked a great English reaction. Anyway, to DoW, you must be able to be on the offensive. Britain never did this seriously till 1943.
 
The House of Hanover changed their names
The previous name of the House of Windsor was Saxe-Coburg-Gotha at that point, but it doesn't really matter. Hitler didn't think in terms of governments, but saw everything from a racial perspective. To him, the British were ethnically related to the Germans (via the Anglo-Saxons), so in his thoughts they were his natural allies.

Germany declared war on the US on December 11th 1941
Yeah, but it's a bit more complex. The USA were already quite involved into WW2 at that point ("lend and lease" and all that), and the declaration was only stating the obvious (of course Hitler also wanted to profit from the US's weakening after Pearl Harbor). Still, it's the same situation as with Britain - he didn't WANT to fight the US, not only because he had "enough on his hands right now", but there was literally nothing to gain for him in such a war.

Was it because of the Germans violating the Belgium independence, IIRC? If yes, this should explain why the French, who devoted all resources to a Metz-Mulhouse (approx) defensive line, were so shocked by the German attack.

But at least for France, there was a plan for war declaration.
... Anyone still remembers about Poland?
This.

The violation of Belgian independence was the reason for British involvement in WW1 (but they were bound by their alliances with France and Russia to go to war with the Central Powers anyway). Before WW2, both France and Britain had internationally guaranteed Poland's independence, and when Germany invaded them under false pretenses.

Of course, there also have been plans for a preemptive offensive on France. Germany always had to reckon with a French intervention on their expansion. But you always have to think of the years before the war: Germany was able to annex the Rhineland, the Saarland, the Memelland, Austria, the Sudetenland and Czechia through semi-diplomatic means and France and Britain stood there and did nothing. Hitler was seriously up to the illusion that he could continue with Poland and get away with it.

...because they didn't foresee that Germans can copy plan from IWW? Oh yeah, they did. They had 1 million troops there. However, Allies prefer to don't remember the fact because the less facts are remembered the more evil Hitler can be in minds of societies (and they are crystal pure in comparison). Anyway, it's a topic for a different thread.
The Rhine border was so heavily fortified that they knew Germany would be stupid to attack there, and the Belgians themselves were very much aware that they would serve as France's open flank again. What they weren't prepared for, though, was that Germany was going to pull the same trick on them and invade via the Netherlands, nor that modern warfare with paratroopers etc. would be able to bypass their defense lines so easily.
Still, the whole German Ardennes offensive was a huge stroke of luck for them. If their convois would have been discovered early on, they would've lost pretty much their entire army and practically the whole war on the western front.

I remember that in one of the two World Wars (not sure in which tho) the English DoWed the Germany, due to violating the Belgian independence. I also think that in WWI, Britain did nothing about it. So I assume it was the second (remember Dunkerque, IIRC there were British soldiers there)

As for Poland, yes, the German agreed w/ the Russians to invade the country and share it, I don't recall this to have provoked a great English reaction. Anyway, to DoW, you must be able to be on the offensive. Britain never did this seriously till 1943.
No, it was the other way round. When Belgium was invaded in WW2, the major powers were already at war, and nobody was all that surprised when it happened.

The Russian-German plan to share Poland was never made public (it is referred to as "secret protocol" for a reason), so Britain had nothing to act upon.
When they declared war, they were able to act very well, though. Their acting just followed the typical British stratagem: winning superiority over the seas, setting up a blockade, and waiting for its continental allies to wage the land war.
 
France 'took one for the team' so to speak, luckely 'thanks' to the Japanese the Americans got involved and you all know the rest of that story...

Actually the Americans made the Japanese no choice but to DoW on them. And you could actually expect that it would happen.
 
Apparently IIRC America were never going to help Britain,under the impresion that they would lose the Battle of Britian.
 
Are you denying that Hitler was an evil man?

He wasn't the single most evil person ever lived, but one of the few who could inflict the most evil upon the world. But I think all the Nazi's who have blood on their hands are guilty, not just blame it all to Hitler because he was their leader.
I guess it's Hitler's own fault everybody points at him for the single person who made the Holocaust possible the way he presented himself as Führer.
 
... Anyone still remembers about Poland?

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I remember that in one of the two World Wars (not sure in which tho) the English DoWed the Germany, due to violating the Belgian independence. I also think that in WWI, Britain did nothing about it. So I assume it was the second (remember Dunkerque, IIRC there were British soldiers there)

As for Poland, yes, the German agreed w/ the Russians to invade the country and share it, I don't recall this to have provoked a great English reaction.

Sorry, but you have it backward. The German invasion of Belgium is what triggered British involvement in WW1. The German invasion of Poland drew Britain into WW2.
 
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