sure that sounds smarter but it does sound like the 20% boost would apply to your opponents regardless right? might be decent to post him in an allies capital since you get the alliance points boost as well. at least during peace i guess.
I don't mind Chandy mostly because the tediousness of unit movement is one of my big sticking points for doing domination in Civ 6 (beyond the lack of AI pushback) especially in early game, so it makes it actually fun for me instead of a slog.
Otherwise, yeah, they are sort of the epitome of passive to the point that you can barely tell if they are happening. Gandhi's LUA, you can't control who is at war, so it's basically "maybe I'm getting some extra faith". And the UA you have limited control over who spreads to you (or what those bonuses are) so it just becomes a case of occasionally "oh look I can faith buy campus buildings in this city apparently, who knew".
sure that sounds smarter but it does sound like the 20% boost would apply to your opponents regardless right? might be decent to post him in an allies capital since you get the alliance points boost as well. at least during peace i guess.
Hungary still have its production bonus as an advantage that help in any victory. Ottoman is the only truly focused in combat, Zulu style. You can play peaceful with Hungary and still take great advantage of most of its bonuses. As Ottoman, if you're not conquering you're doing it wrong.
I wonder if Neutralize Governor will be useable on Ibrahim if he's in YOUR city and your NOT Ottoman ??? I mean there MUST be an answer to him, right ?
1. How does the free promotion of Janissaries work when upgraded from an earlier era unit?
2. Do Janissaries consume population if you upgrade into them from an earlier era unit?
3. Does Ibrahim’s production bonus help the foreign city if he’s operating there?
4. Can a foreign civ neutralize Ibrahim in their own capital?
Might be splitting hairs here, but they are expansionist/hybrid, not exactly a pure domination civ. The fact that they can build any district faster makes them more flexible for pretty much anything you want to shoot for victory wise. A true domination civ is practically geared towards war and taking to catch up or surpass. Hungary's unique units are so late in the game too. Industrial era? Come on dude. If the military benefits and bonuses are not early, it really isn't very helpful for warmongering. Ottoman's UU may not be early, but it is not late either. The governor gives unit production almost as early as the God of the Forge pantheon, which means you can get a better pantheon and just get the governor and use policy cards.
With that gov, you can heavy chariot and archer rush your nearest neighbor, take his capital and prep it for the next onslaught. It's beautiful. Such synergy. Hungary is nothing like this.
Production boost to siege weapons as well. First thing I thought: what a powerhouse. Not completely a one trick pony with the bazaar and a lot more interesting to me than the civ 5 version. I am kindda worried about the governor though, he can put it in your capital and (currently) there is no way to get rid of governors in your own cities. So no counter play to a very powerful ability.
My guess is you have to declare war to bump him out. Currently your governor is expelled when you are at war. It only happens with the Diplomat in City States, but I'm sure it'll happen here too.
Right, and I explicitly mentioned that it in my post, but when every other leader in the game is an all powerful all knowing god emperor with magical powers to personally effect their entire country’s populace having one leader who obeys the laws of reality is jarring and makes that leader feel lesser in comparison.
Looks like a great civ for the domination fans. Personally I don’t mind domination if it’s a civ with early game bonuses but I’m less interested in mid/late game domination
Have we talked about the fact that based on the wording, Ibrahim sounds like he would give 20% boost to military unit production in city even if hes based on an OPPONENT capital? would be hilarious if you really need the military bonuses to conquer an enemy but hes churning out unit after unit in his capital cuz of the discount Ibrahim is giving him lol
I think it's intentional because the left-side tree is for helping allies defend. It's unlikely you can place him in a city you're at war with (currently governors get ejected if you're at war with the city). I think the idea is you conquer a city and then place Ibrahim to do follow-up conquests.
Right, and I explicitly mentioned that it in my post, but when every other leader in the game is an all powerful all knowing god emperor with magical powers to personally effect their entire country’s populace having one leader who obeys the laws of reality is jarring and makes that leader feel lesser in comparison.
Well, you can consider one of the two UU's to be baked into the UA, just as the mustang is considered to be baked into Teddy and the longship is considered to be baked into Bluetooth.
I think it's intentional because the left-side tree is for helping allies defend. It's unlikely you can place him in a city you're at war with (currently governors get ejected if you're at war with the city). I think the idea is you conquer a city and then place Ibrahim to do follow-up conquests.
I'd almost prefer if he can't be in a City State. That would keep your conquests more local at least at first.
Finally! A warmonger civ for us warmongers. You other guys salty need to give that up. This is the only domination civ in the entire expansion! You guys cannot spare even one for us warmongers? Most of you groaned when the Zulus came out, so I am not surprised.
He even fits Ottoman history well. Ditto for the Janissary.
I think the issue is more that Ottomans had a lot going on that wasn't just domination related (think of the furniture!) so there's some desire for some acknowledgement of that in the design (something science or culture related), especially given they were also pretty much a pure dom civ in 5 as well. Something of the same with people wanting say Kublai instead of Genghis for the Mongols.
I don't think anyone expects the Zulu or Alexander, the Civ, to be anything but domination.
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