The Pope is dead! Who is next?

[Verbose]

"Pope Bob", one surmises.

 

[Graham1]

A moderate to progressive American pope of reportedly Hispanic (mother - she was a Martinez) and French with a side of Italian (Father - there's a reason many source still have the é in Prévost) origins who spent twenty years of his life working in Latin America (Peru) to the point of having Peruvian as well as American citizenship is definitely NOT resounding approval of current American political directions. Trump may think otherwise, but he will presumably be disabused of that nonsensical notion in short order.

There is no part of this universe where Trump will see this as a negative. It's as simple as that.

 

[Evie]

Eh, let the new pope speak about american politics and anti-immigrant (and especially anti-hispanic) sentiments a few time and Trump will catch up with those of us who are actually intelligent on that particular point.

 

[Bestbank Tiger]

Mmmm, a clever move against Trump

Giving a lifetime appointment to someone, just to troll a term limited politician who's old enough to be nearly topped out on life expectancy, would be incredibly dumb.

 

[Broken_Erika]

https://bsky.app/profile/yasharali.bsky.social%2Fpost%2F3loogqwxsj52k

 

[Evie]

Giving a lifetime appointment to a Catholic from the Eastern bloc to troll the Communist regimes worked out pretty well, last I heard.

 

[Thorgalaeg]

Giving a lifetime appointment to someone, just to troll a term limited politician who's old enough to be nearly topped out on life expectancy, would be incredibly dumb.

Trump is just the tip of the iceberg of the problem in USA.

 

[Graham1]

https://bsky.app/profile/yasharali.bsky.social%2Fpost%2F3loogqwxsj52k

Well Vance is a devoted Catholic, so on the odd chance that he gets to meet the Pope, I'm sure he'll enjoy being in audience with an English speaking Pope.

 

[Sommerswerd]

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*gasp* that's the name my son just took for confirmation this past weekend! Coincidence?

Spoiler :

Yeah, its a coincidence

The odds on favorite was the Philipino Cardinal going into the home stretch... nobody seems to know where the Murican, Robert Prevost came from.

USA#1

USA #1

When I heard that the new Pope was Murican I immediately thought Trump had somehow extorted the Conclave into picking a radical right-wing'er... but apparently that isn't the case

 

[Valka D'Ur]

The Last Italian Pope lasted 33 days.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_of_three_popes

I remember that. I was in Grade 11 at the time and we briefly discussed it in our social studies class (emphasis was on current events that year).

I am putting some money on the college of cardinals not agreeing on a pope and electing a pope an an antipope, leading to a schism and a couple excommunications and possibly a split of catholicism into different factions. It probably won't happen, but it's 2020s, there are so many things already we said "This is never going to happen" to, and they did. So don't discount the antipope.

I bet you could make some serious money if you put $500 on 3 popes getting elected instead of just 1 or 2. The odds on that have got to be incredible.

Isn't Catholicism already split into multiple factions?

Anyway, they picked somebody, so that's done. Unless he's horrible, it doesn't really matter to me who it is.

 

[Gori the Grey]

Turns out poll should have had "Other" as an option.

Also

Radioactive Monkey

 

[Kyriakos]

Anyone here know what pope Francis thought of the person who now became pope?

 

[Evie]

Well, we do know Francis kept giving him new (and important) jobs, and put him in charge of one of his biggest reform move.

 

[AdrienIer]

He named him cardinal 2 years ago, and named him at a major position in the Vatican very recently, so Francis probably liked him

 

[Sommerswerd]

Anyone here know what pope Francis thought of the person who now became pope?

Why do you ask? Just curious...

 

[Thorgalaeg]

As usual The Vatican has been several moves ahead, but just now MAGAs begin to realize the meaning.

Most Catholics in America are Trump supporters, Trump government is filled with Catholics (Vance, Rubio...) , even Melania is Catholic. It is not for chance this is the first pope from USA. It is about subtly influencing Catholics (and even non Catholics) in USA, and influence them away from Trump and his neo-fascist ideology specifically.

 

[Valka D'Ur]

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As usual The Vatican has been several moves ahead, but just now MAGAs begin to realize the meaning.

Most Catholics in America are Trump supporters, Trump government is filled with Catholics (Vance, Rubio...) , even Melania is Catholic. It is not for chance this is the first pope from USA. It is about subtly influencing Catholics (and even non Catholics) in USA, and influence them away from Trump and his neo-fascist ideology specifically.

Some Canadians are furious about this. They don't understand that an anti-Trump pope isn't a bad thing, though I'm not into popes in general (most atheists aren't).

As for Catholic influence, it seems to have slipped their minds that most Liberal Prime Ministers are Catholic. When Mark Carney congratulates the pope, he's entirely sincere. It's the conservatives who are fake about it - lots of evangelicals mixed up in that bunch.

 

[Thorgalaeg]

Some Canadians are furious about this. They don't understand that an anti-Trump pope isn't a bad thing, though I'm not into popes in general (most atheists aren't).

As for Catholic influence, it seems to have slipped their minds that most Liberal Prime Ministers are Catholic. When Mark Carney congratulates the pope, he's entirely sincere. It's the conservatives who are fake about it - lots of evangelicals mixed up in that bunch.

I am atheist too, as most posters here probably , but the pope is influential anyway. The fact we are talking about him proves it.

About the American pope thing it is understandable Canadians are annoyed, but the church is pretty sibylline, keep your friends close and your enemies closer and that kind of things. This pope is apparently left but not that left, so we will see some subtle continuous anti-Trump work, not too obvious so as not to scare right-wing Catholics (and Catholics tend to be pretty right-wing)

Avoiding direct confrontation is the way the Church survived through history. (With some exceptions as some warrior popes, the crusades and other little anecdotes)

 

[EnglishEdward]

This comment is not directed at any particular posters, but I have noticed that there seem to more generally be a:

[something] derangement symptom where people can only automatically first consider a event in terms of that [something].

that [something] may be Donald Trump, Brexit, gay marriage or trans-rights or whatever.

I suspect that Robert Prevost was chosen for competence, rather than for any particular political stance.

 

[Snowygerry]

That's what I hear from the experts in the genre here yes, although arguably the Vatican, and the Catholic Church in general has a "political stance" of its own.

Big heart for the poor, not a fan of gay marriage or women in the church. Nothing to expect when it comes to homosexuals or various abuse cases.