It's super-weird to me that any discussion this stuff has to begin with a ritualised consideration of and distancing from Hobbes and Rousseau, as if there was any other context in which the opinions of two specific but extremely dead men were assumed to wield that level of continuing authority.
What can I say? Namedropping strokes the ego of a lesser man, such as myself. It's part of our western tradition, so why not. I kind of like our dead men. If you've got some dead chinese men or dead muslim men (although arn't they really western too?), I'd love to hear what they said too. Women too, for sure. They had interesting things to say. In our current political strife, it would be wise to take a look again in what they said. Even if the groups and words with which they fought their ideological battles are different from ours, the underlying nature of humans has changed very little.
I see that, but does it really matter if 10%, or what ever, of your ingroup gets killed by an ambush or by a field battle? The effects are the same. Certainly numerically more people die in the latter case, but it doesn't diminish the fact that the life for any individual pre-agricultural man was not substantially different in the sphere of violence than for the post-agricultural man. Concepts of war and peace are concepts tied to formal polities anyway. When there were no such formal polities, how can we even know that the people conceptualized a state of peace? More likely it was a constant state of intermittent co-operation, distrust and revenge between the small groups that existed back then. The form of violence changed, but if you are dead, does it really matter was the arrow in your skull from an soldier on the battlefield or another hunter from a bush somewhere?I think it's a bit simplistic to treat this as a simple question of scale, as if it was materially possible for a tribe of one hundred and a nation of one million to wage war in the same fashion. Small, decentralised societies don't have the resources to wage extended or intensive wars, not least because their most valuable resource, human beings, is one that wars tend to burn through pretty quickly. Large-scale extended warfare requires either a dedicated warrior-class or classes who are economically marginal-enough that a society can afford to have them off fighting for months or years at a time, or it requires a powerful centralised state that can draft large parts of the working population without collapsing the economy. In simple societies, warfare is necessarily limited to ritualised confrontations or to one-off raids; there simply isn't the material basis for extended campaigns, not unless some powerful outside empire is prepared to subsidise them.
Wiping out a dozen people may decimate a tribe, but it's also much easier said than done. While it's certainly probably that there were some extremely violent encounters in simple societies, there's not a lot of evidence to suggest that they occurred on even a relative scale with the frequency they do in the "civilised" age.
There is evidence from contemporary hunter-gatherer societies where the murder rate is as high as 10-20%. Overall, I would not say that the swap to "civilization" was a downgrade from the life of hunter gatherers. Our ancestors suffered from too large societies for the social brains we have. A curse of our own success and the slow nature of biological evolution. The solution to this was inventing imagined communities such as religions that tied unknown people together, and inveting systems of shared invented conceptions of morals and justice. It's unlikely a coincidence that most early civilizations seem to be centered around a cult of some sort.
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