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The thread for space cadets!

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by hobbsyoyo, Sep 13, 2012.

  1. r16

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    stupid tablet ate my first attempt ! So , here ı am , something silly to say , editing some other post to copy-paste at the web cafe which might be again unavailable due Coronavirus and ı first check the blog , because 2020 is such a stupid year that something might have happened . To make this less infraction-worthy . Oh , hell yes , a jetpack flying along airliners landing at Los Angeles ... Naturally the blog covers up America . Either a drone or he jumped from a helicopter . ı really hate being in races when ı actually don't know ı am in a race ! Even if it is like about deciding who's dumber ...

    there has been a little reaction , elsewhere . Am not offended not being mentioned . lt is me and my fault . People understand when you talk the language they will understand . And let's cut it short . Now that am this nice person who makes silly sentences about how proffessionals will not tell people how nice it is to be barred from situations they are obliged to recruit ... So , when ı say ı designed the TlE fighter it really means ı designed the TlE Fighter , in multiple variants , that goes whoosh in the dark ... Of space ... Annoying ? You bet . TlE Fighter will not need a jet , because space ... ı won't tell the "distance" where someone whom they could take as a peer , being a German to say the least , said there might be a sock on the other foot .

    before there was a Boeing research vehicle , Bird of Prey was Russian Black Magic , some crazy thing that was hard to believe by scientific minds . Not necessarily real , it was more of SEAD thing , almost an assault glider . lntented audience was those who kept funding death ray research since 1920s under the spell of Tesla . People used to believe in a lot of crazy things back then , considering Trump was elected in the first place always comes to my mind when ı have to force myself not to laugh at the 80s ...

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    russian tankovoi desant China Fight 1969

    and of course can't call Greeks as Greeks for the duration , so ı have my post from a thread discussing urban legends . Which ı am one , with all of the negative connections [which will need another webcafe day as ı mistakenly attached a virus USB first , restarting stuff would delete saved stuff ]

    nobody has to believe anything in this post . Keep out of flying into airliners !

    because also there is this emergency ... Back when ı used to be trolled , ı was challenged , my attempt at answer was curtailed because why not . For Corporate Bliss , the troll thread , which of course no longer exists , was named Underpowered . My poor answer and it has nothing to do with me and all , because who would have tolerated a real person who waits for a full 46 Quarters ? Plus my proposal was for a burka wearer to hide the tanks ... This being the challenge image . Showgirl dress , she has underwear in the original but ı can totally avoid being a misfit :

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    this is the thing for this week . Till the guy gets caught or next week ı will change into George Lucas is a liar and a paid agent of the US Goverment because the fake movie he was involved with is fake ; Nazis got the plans from the Rocketeer ... ı swear to God ı don't know why California girls are dumb .
     
  2. hobbsyoyo

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    China has launched and recovered a reusable spaceplane that is believed to be similar to the X-37B of the US. While on orbit, it deployed a satellite but this is about all we know about it.

    Rocket Lab launched a prototype of their home-grown satellite on their successful return to flight mission. Their value proposition is that they can sell you the launch and the host satellite in one go, all you have to do is provide the payload. This is attractive to payload providers who do not have their own buses (satellite platforms) as it saves the expense of designing or buying one separately. However, Rocket Lab has very high prices so much of that cost savings will be lost to that. Additionally, they are now basically declaring war against their own primary customer base (satellite manufacturers) by trying to cut them out. This is effectively a play targeted at the US government and defense industry which has no shortage of payloads but who do not typically build their own satellites to host them.

    SpaceX is aggressively countering Rocket Lab by standing up cheap rideshare services on a frequent launch schedule thanks to their own Starlink satellite internet service launches and I think ultimately Rocket Lab is going to have a hard time surviving the coming crunch. I think for now they're making do with a lot of investor money but once that runs out they will have a hard time competing given their high prices and cutthroat SpaceX competition for the launch market - plus they will have pissed off a big portion of their current customer base who will stop buying rides from them in response to their new diversification into satellites.

    I think the next year or two will be make-or-break for Rocket Lab and I'm not optimistic about their long-term position.
     
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  3. hobbsyoyo

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    Meanwhile, astronomers are really getting hammered with all the new SpaceX satellites in low earth orbit and it will only get worse as OneWeb resumes launches and Amazon steps up their Project Kuiper effort. The response on Space News comment threads whenever this problem comes up can be summed as "Go fudge yourself astronomers" which is pretty indicative of how SpaceX fans think and express themselves most of the time on the internet.
     
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  4. r16

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    now it really seems that there are people who think Elon Musk is a black project , meant to create instant arming of the space ... with , let me see , with an "upcoming dispersed fleet of robotic, launch on demand, fully reuseable, super enormous, vertically landing... [stuff] loaded up with 100 tonne swarm of 50 prompt global strike hypersonic conventional and nuclear weapons and kinetic impactors" and oh , they are evasively gliding , too . With a propulsion system on some types , too . This , ı say , is great news . Now that they are like armed and it would be fair , can ı now bomb the US from the orbit ?
     
  5. hobbsyoyo

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    Astra launched last night out of Kodiak and had a failure. About 25 seconds into flight, the termination system killed thrust as the rocket had veered off course. The rocket fell back to Earth near the pad and exploded in a big fireball. This is the fourth Astra failure in as many attempts and coupled with them laying off a lot of their staff earlier in the year, I don't know if they're going to survive.
    https://spacenews.com/astra-launch-terminated-during-first-stage-burn/


    The Chinese had a launch failure yesterday as well, their fourth this year.
    https://spacenews.com/chinese-kuaizhou-1a-rocket-launch-ends-in-failure/

    ULA is looking at a triple-core version of their upcoming Vulcan rocket but this is likely just a paper study that won't go anywhere.
    https://spacenews.com/ula-studying-long-term-upgrades-to-vulcan/
     
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  6. Berzerker

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    phosphine in the atmosphere of Venus may be indicator of life, the gas is produced on Earth by microorganisms in oxygen free environments

    I think with all the impacts over the last 4 billion years shortly before life appeared on Earth the planets may have shared in the seed of life when asteroids were flying around.
     
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  7. r16

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    so there are claims and whatnot that a test vehicle has been flown , manned or optionally manned , to test construction methods that can be used for the so called 6th generation fighters . Talk has indeed like "confirms" it is not printing as one would expect but involves curing composites faster . The vehicle has also apparently gone supersonic , in either test tunnels or CGl or on its 5th flight or whatever . Do not get me to read the riot act of why you won't believe in whatever ı say , now that am also amused at the news from France where they have sold an extra 18 Rafales , 6 on the minimum . So much relieved that they are joking on how the stupid Chinese were discovered after lifting the whole JSF programme because something has to explain the J-20/J-31 things ... So , sometime after the great hacking the Chinese tried again and they were given hours of p_rn movies instead ! While the British were unnerved , to have some blog of theirs to go peaceloving and question the need for America to have an extra fighter jet , now , this decade , where it can only divert funds from F-35 . Hence the F-15 EX to come under more attacks , with Boeing pilloried with charges of loving money too much , as proven by 737 MAX . Because this rapid purchase thing (with small batches of planes bought in a timeframe of few years and quickly replaced , after this reported life of 3500 flight hours because 10 or 20 000 hours expected from legacy types costs too much) was only meant to crack an opening for the so called Tempest , artillery spotter turned into a fighter . Which is like a decade ahead , to say the least ... Sell 100 or 200 to America and they would get half the export market , they were hoping .

    accordingly USAF invites Elon Musk to come in and save the world ! Those with interest will have already read the relevant passage with engineers with billions to come and get a hobby of building fighter jets . Like gross as Musk was on record for saying manned combat jets were to end with the F-35 . From which we understand the production method was developed by DARPA and is available to all , except Boeing , because Wall Street will see to it that there will be nobody approved except those billionaire geniuses already in business . Yes , Lockmart is willing to turn over the American percentage in commercial aircraft sales to Europeans .

    to make it less obvious the process has also been denied to Lockmart . For the duration . ı am like so much impressed with god qualities of Musk , last ı heard of him was he was launching his exodus to Mars in 2024 , 1000 ships , to carry a million people to a new planet by 2050 . He has never said he himself would move , is that true ?

    and good old US State Department wishes an happy anniversary to USAF with using a picture of the Blue Angels of the USN . You know there is quite a concern about the Chinese who will quickly learn this new thing , too .
     
  8. Samson

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    You know that black hole they took a picture of last year? Well, its "wobbling":

    A series of images constructed from observational data and mathematical modelling show the evolution of the black hole at the centre of the M87 galaxy from 2009 to 2017.

    The short sequence of frames shows how the appearance of the black hole’s surroundings changes over years as its gravity stirs the material around it into a constant maelstrom.

    “Because the flow of matter falling onto a black hole is turbulent, we can see that the ring wobbles with time,” says lead author Maciek Wielgus, a radio astronomer at Harvard University in Cambridge, Massachusetts.
     
  9. r16

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    another affair of the heart .


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    my first "military" magazine was Nato's 15 or 16 Nations . Second was named Naval Forces . Third was probably Modelaid , with F4U on the cover . Single issues mind you , sent to the city to see whether they would sell . ı was in Anatolian High , learning English to understand one tenth of any page and quite happy to discover with a little discipline ı could save enough pocket money in a year to buy two or three magazines . And staring blankly at the pages would suddenly result in a moment of discovery of what a word might mean and everything led to one other and pages were giving away their secrets . Am surprised there are so many people who find the Corsair ugly .

    this one here was the first book ı saw . On a shop window ı passed by only by chance . Sitting there almost by itself , expensive ... ı gave up after asking the price but it was there next week , too . Possibly it was the 2 week holiday in February , ı possibly had good marks , a little of extra money to reward good marks being a tradition . Read cover to cover many times . r16 the aviation person learned the basics from this one or something . It is still somewhere in the house , a book older older than possibly half the CFC and it even goes into future , because at my request a classmate actually traced the lines of Macross/Robotech fighter , Varietek , which is oddly called Veritech in so many places . Frozen TV screen , VCR and a piece of paper from the notebook . Which has stayed between the covers ever since .


    it is also a cause for the ruination of my life . You see , wireframe ... The cover , showing the future . Computers coming ! Those were the days whe the greatest secrets could be taken from a computer after finding the correct password and they would inevitably fit on a single floppy disc ... Of course , ı actually wanted to be a fighter pilot . ı could bulk up and get muscles , it only needed some training . Like anyone who hasn't seen the Rocky IV and the training montage (as it is called) hasn't lived , man . Eyes were a bigger issue . ı had already discovered ı didn't deserve a miracle and 1986 was notable for learning the Russians were fixing eyes with lazer surgery , but , you know , 1986 ... It defaulted back to becoming an engineer .


    but , wireframe . ı was obviously decaying and it was at the back of mind . Computers would have to be used , as all those wires proved and ı understood nothing about computers . Tried . Failed . Just another excuse for giving up . All ı would need would be half hours with the XP desktop or the laptop or brother's 486 ... That only thing ı would ever need was probably which button was for power . That computers didn't design , it still took people , a whole lot of people and there would be people to deal with the computers and the damned wireframes . That ı didn't have to know ... At least everything . That ı could if ı had put my back to it . That ı could be some nerd in some office . And also that ı would really annoy people and be dead already .


    ah yes , news time . People have been taken aback by the sixth generation . No , this generations thing was not invented by Lockmart , putting everything into fourth so that they could never compete with Lockmart's fifth , because the fourth is mentioned in some paragraph midway across the book . Since the last post of mine , Lockmart has made it heard that the thing was subscale , it is being flown by the USAF Academy because they like own Groom Lake and it must be Academy because they haven't seen it yet . But they invented the production means . The British the only beneficiary to be of the new contracting methods and hate against monolithic fighters that take 30 years in development and 50 in service have been caught slightly unprepared . They are going to remove the vertical tails from their artillery spotter and they have the patents for newly fangled thrust vectoring controls . Some blog says it was the YF-23 , but possibly with the tails and the whole rear fuselage cut way . They possibly could go supersonic with wings tweaked a bit , no A/B on the engines , no S-Duct and possibly even some moving inlets for transsonic issues . Real issues with the speed of manufacture , so it is gotta be something previously existing , they will quickly and silently forget about the 5th flight . The blog writers probably make their living on the car and motorbike segment so possibly they are distributing official Pentagon lies . Still , not a Lockmart , so a possibly well known F-35 hater lays down the law . A prototype could have been produced in 2016 because the studies have been running long enough , so it is inertia why it is taking so long ... And well , no billionaires rushing in either ...

     
  10. r16

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    apologies for the consecutive post but tablet is really bad for storing information as ı like have utterly failed to learn stuff related to its use . Newest claims since the post above was written . lt was designed and built within 12 months , which it wasn't , to lay claim to an unified theory of everything like computer software that combines theory , detail design and production machinery control into one . lt is NOT USN at all . Am much amused at a recount of how America also knows to use lazer fire to split the air in front to go faster , because apart from mocking Russians who actually thought it up a full 20 years from the teams named in the article it also mentions the series of computer games this forum cherishes . Use of comments you know , not possible always to see 'em . So , apparently a full flying wing with no verticals going supersonic is really a big thing and never-seen-before . So , using lazer beams with skill can make you turn and whatever as if you had tails , vertical or horizontal . Will also explain the speed ... that's supersonic , however mildly ? So pick your choice :
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  11. hobbsyoyo

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    Phosphine on Venus is huge. It can be produced naturally but it has such a short life in the environment before it breaks down that to exist in the concentrations it has been found, it would require entirely new non-biological production processes that we can't even imagine. Of course it may turn out that there is in fact some new non-biological process for producing it but right now, phosphine is only associated with life on Earth.

    Venus has been historically neglected in part because it is so hard to work on the planet. Hopefully this begins to change soon.
     
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    OneWeb has signed a contract to renew launches of their constellation, this is currently before the bankruptcy court for approval.

    The British government is said to be rethinking their own GPS constellation and may instead build something cheaper and simpler. The Japanese Quasi-Zenith positioning system or the Indian's local GPS enhancement are probably instructive models. Basically those two nations have decided to build small satellite constellations that supplement GPS within their borders and in the areas around them rather than build an entirely independent, worldwide GPS system. The UK is generally keen on building up their space sector and in providing it a graceful transition off of European projects but at the same time are becoming cost conscious as they understand just how expensive these projects can be.

    A company in Australia performed the first two suborbital launches from the continent in decades and they are working toward orbital launches in the next few year.

    I believe there was also a recent suborbital launch out of Scotland as well.
     
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    From the comments:
    'I think "Richard Feynman DESTROYS NASA with FaCtS & lOgiC" would have done just feyn.'
     
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  14. Ajidica

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    Wasn't Venus historically the Soviet's "area"?
     
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  15. Michkov

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    If you want to call September 2020 historic.
     
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    the page starter post right up there . The mythical jetpack dude who jumped off an helicopter to scare US authorities of kamikaze attacks and what not ... He makes a new blog apperance . Creating more confusion in the brains of the followers of the blog . Because Pentagon wants us to believe he is real , so that Donald Trump can pass new laws to establish his Police State . Told ya the blog dispenses Pentagon lies ! So , he is now reported during the course of reporting on FBI investigation , and there are now also party balloons up high and a Police helicopter all milling in the flight path of landing airliners ! lt has to be a Police helicopter because it looks like one ... You hurt me America , ı would have expected you to say it was Sharon Valery and her recon Raptor ! Because Aliens . So , they are having a party , California girls and one of them loses the balloons which they had around for the birthday girl and one of them calls Colonial Marines and the other the jetpack dude ? ı swear to God ı don't know why California girls are dumb .

    like causing such problems when good old America even reneges on election deals and Bill Gates watches Donald Trump having 100 million test kits on the Election Day instead of 100 million doses of the vaccine . Maybe Gates should be like kicked out with all his ilk ? For creating such fables ? lt is true , ı swear to God ı don't know why California girls are dumb .
     
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    Yes, and they were the only country that has done anything useful on the surface. I believe one American probe made a few low scientific value beeps on the surface for a bit, while the Russians landed multiple probes that lasted hours, taking pictures and making some rudimentary measurements. The pictures from the surface are themselves of immense PR value, as is the toughness/badassness of the probes they landed. They had some orbital probes that took measurements of the atmosphere space surrounding space, but I'm not aware of any key discoveries of their Venus space probes (compared to the fame of the landers).

    The Russians stopped launching to Venus in the 80's, and then scaled back all their other scientific space missions (outside of their ISS participation) drastically as budget cuts got worse year-over-year. They now do about 1 or 2 missions a decade now and the missions they do launch are often joint missions with other agencies where they specialize in launch and propulsion hardware contributions.
     
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    ULA had to scrub their Delta IV Heavy launch, again. This is the third or forth time they've had to scrub this classified launch due to technical issues. The low flight rate of the Delta IV as well as the advancing age of its launch infrastructure have been cited as key reasons for the scrubs. The first scrub happened after preliminary engine ignition and the rocket dramatically engulfed itself in flames. While dramatic, this 'up in flames' bit is actually intentional. The Delta IV uses hydrogen/oxygen engines, with cooling provided by the hydrogen; this means that they pump hydrogen through the engine before it fully ignites and this hydrogen is vented overboard. To prevent the hydrogen from accumulating to explosive levels, they ignite one of the side boosters a little bit before the other boosters so that its flame can ignite and burn off the hydrogen. As hydrogen is lighter than air, it is already climbing up the sides of the vehicle by the time it is lit and thus engulfs the vehicle in dramatic but harmless flames.

    In any case, these scrubs are pretty worrisome due to the fact that up until fairly recently, ULA was receiving up to a billion dollars per year just to ensure they always launched on time. Since that subsidy has lapsed, they have been picking up a lot of launch scrubs which hurts their reputation as the 'old reliable' of the US launch industry.

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    SpaceX lost their protest against the USAF over the first phase of the USAF's major launch contract. This was basically expected and most serious observers saw the protest as basically frivolous. SpaceX still has another protest to be fought over the second phase of that same launch contract even though they won that award.

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    OneWeb has been granted approval to emerge from bankruptcy by being bought by the UK government and an Indian company. OneWeb also pulled in (IIRC) ~$300 million in financing to resume manufacturing and launches but they expect to burn through all of that money by December. Space is expensive as hell.
     
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    I'm really itching to talk about the Challenger or Columbia disasters if anyone has questions.
     
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    What happens if Challenger goes nominal?
     

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