the "tramp stamp", what do we think about it?

[amadeus]

It is an important warning signal to those that do not wish to contract venereal disease.

 

[Traitorfish]

Out of interest, how old are all these tattoo-loathing people? That kind of reaction is to be expected from those of an older generation, no doubt, but it's unusual to find some under thirty- as I assume most posters here to be- with such a vocal distaste for them.

 

[fugazi]

Out of interest, how old are all these tattoo-loathing people? That kind of reaction is to be expected from those of an older generation, no doubt, but it's unusual to find some under thirty- as I assume most posters here to be- with such a vocal distaste for them.

There are people under 30 who think further ahead than just the next weekend. Tattoos are nothing but a sad attempt at individualisation in a materialistic society where nothing is worth a damn if it's not something you can't see or touch. I'm against pretty much everything that alters the body - piercings, tattoos, plastic surgery and things such as circumcision.

Next to that, you often find tattoos among certain groups of people that I do not like to be associated with. That doesn't help either

And I'm 24 and know that most of my friends look at it with disgust too.

 

[holy king]

Out of interest, how old are all these tattoo-loathing people? That kind of reaction is to be expected from those of an older generation, no doubt, but it's unusual to find some under thirty- as I assume most posters here to be- with such a vocal distaste for them.

it's a gaming forum.

see the post above me.

 

[Traitorfish]

There are people under 30 who think further ahead than just the next weekend.

There's no need to be so defensive. I merely meant to observe that it is a position more common among older generations, and so wondered if age was in any way related to the opposition shown to the practice. Certainly, the comment was not aimed at you in particular.

Tattoos are nothing but a sad attempt at individualisation in a materialistic society where nothing is worth a damn if it's not something you can't see or touch. I'm against pretty much everything that alters the body - piercings, tattoos, plastic surgery and things such as circumcision.

Isn't rather insulting to simply assume such motives? You're simply choosing to see the worst in people. Certainly, the instant disregard for all thoughts of self-expression in favour of these rather venomous accusations of affection paints you as a rather jaded and cynical individual. That's not to say that it is impossible to make a reasoned argument for your position, but I'm afraid that you are really failing to do so.

Out of interest, where do you stand on the cutting of hair, or shaving? Surely, if you are to oppose all body modification as an absolute principal, then you must treat it as an absolute?

 

[MagisterCultuum]

She looks quite young (maybe 16) in the first pic, but close to my age (22) in the second. She is an attractive girl, but would be more so without the tats.

 

[fugazi]

There's no need to be so defensive. I merely meant to observe that it is a position more common among older generations, and so wondered if age was in any way related to the opposition shown to the practice. Certainly, the comment was not aimed at you in particular.


Isn't rather insulting to simply assume such motives? You're simply choosing to see the worst in people. Certainly, the instant disregard for all thoughts of self-expression in favour of these rather venomous accusations of affection paints you as a rather jaded and cynical individual. That's not to say that it is impossible to make a reasoned argument for your position, but I'm afraid that you are really failing to do so.

Out of interest, where do you stand on the cutting of hair, or shaving? Surely, if you are to oppose all body modification as an absolute principal, then you must treat it as an absolute?

Im not a Sikh, thank you and I actually had Sikhs as neighbours for a couple of years. No thank you. And insulting? Maybe, but people my age and younger are searching. Searching for their place in the world, for who they really are and these things really seem to help to find that. Seem, as it's a lie. Nothing lasts forever, no like or dislike.

And dont start about love. Love is not something that once found, is selfsustaining either. Besides, while I like classic rock and such, you can clearly tell where rock took a wrong turn too

 

[Traitorfish]

Im not a Sikh, thank you and I actually had Sikhs as neighbours for a couple of years. No thank you.

Am I to infer from this that you do not refrain from cutting your hair or shaving your beard? In that case, I submit to you that you are a hypocrite, for the reasons detailed previously.

And insulting? Maybe, but people my age and younger are searching. Searching for their place in the world, for who they really are and these things really seem to help to find that. Seem, as it's a lie. Nothing lasts forever, no like or dislike.

Glib pontification does not constitute a response to my comment.

 

[Cutlass]

Out of interest, how old are all these tattoo-loathing people? That kind of reaction is to be expected from those of an older generation, no doubt, but it's unusual to find some under thirty- as I assume most posters here to be- with such a vocal distaste for them.

I don't loath all tattoos. However, I think a lot of tattoos are done with little to no thought or imagination. Not to mention little to no taste. And unlike other things that are based on taste, you're stuck with it once you do it. And since people's tastes change over the course of their lives, it's something that a lot of people are going to regret eventually.


btw, 45.

 

[fugazi]

Am I to infer from this that you do not refrain from cutting your hair or shaving your beard? In that case, I submit to you that you are a hypocrite, for the reasons detailed previously.


Glib pontification does not constitute a response to my comment.

If you want to call me a hypocrite because I shave and trim my beard and get a haircut every one and a half months while condemning body modification, be my guest

 

[Traitorfish]

I don't loath all tattoos. However, I think a lot of tattoos are done with little to no thought or imagination. Not to mention little to no taste. And unlike other things that are based on taste, you're stuck with it once you do it. And since people's tastes change over the course of their lives, it's something that a lot of people are going to regret eventually.

And that's an entirely reasonable position to hold, and certainly has some truth to it; what I object to isn't even the condemnation of tattooing, but the unpleasant, non-contextual slurs made by people like Fugazi. To observe that many tattoos seem thoughtless is reasonable, to suggest that all tattoos are a contrived affection is not.

If you want to call me a hypocrite because I shave and trim my beard and get a haircut every one and a half months while condemning body modification, be my guest

Well, surely you can see my point; to absolutely condemn all body modification while daily engaging in it is hardly consistent behaviour. That your chosen form is of lesser impact and more socially acceptable is, at least if I am to take your previous comments at face value, neither here nor there.

 

[fugazi]

If you think that cutting something that grows back is comparable to targetting one's flesh with whatever it maybe, you're being outright silly. So quit it

 

[Traitorfish]

If you think that cutting something that grows back is comparable to targetting one's flesh with whatever it maybe, you're being outright silly. So quit it

Well, perhaps I am being pedantic, but the point stands; you declared that you are "against pretty much everything that alters the body", which, if we are to take that at face value, would imply that you oppose all body modification, however minor; certainly, the temporary nature of hair-cutting does not set it apart, given that piercings are also a temporary modification unless engineered otherwise.
The obvious answer, of course, is that you are not really against all body modification, which leads one to wonder why you chose to oppose only certain forms. It is certainly not because you hold the human body to be an inherently perfect form.

 

[fugazi]

Let me know if you're fooling yourself, you're not fooling me.

 

[Traitorfish]

That does not answer my question.

 

[scherbchen]

If you think that cutting something that grows back is comparable to targetting one's flesh with whatever it maybe, you're being outright silly. So quit it

well, to be utterly pedantic.... the human body is on average about 10 years old as every cell is constantly being replaced. wasn't it skin that was the most rapid to be replaced? so everything does renew. all you are doing is retaining the ink and even that fades over time (which, depending on the tattoo, can be either ugly or even anhance the beauty of it for those that like ink) and can be removed nowadays. henna tattoos are another option that isn't permanent.

but just like some tribal cultures view great beauty in ink and have done so for centuries we are in the clutch of what is "acceptable". only difference is that we are a huge, intercontinental mesh of cultures that spawns subcultures and we, each and every one of us, want to belong to one or the other and find that which represents it visually attractive and the parts that represents parts we want to distance ourselves from ugly.

it is really not about what you find beautiful but what it says about you, I believe.

 

[Hygro]

All of you who call them sheep for following a trend are sheep for calling them sheep.

 

[JollyRoger]

I just try to be a good shepherd in watching over my flock of sheep. Makes it easier if they are marked consistently.

 

[Elrohir]

Out of interest, how old are all these tattoo-loathing people? That kind of reaction is to be expected from those of an older generation, no doubt, but it's unusual to find some under thirty- as I assume most posters here to be- with such a vocal distaste for them.

I'm 20, and I think tattoos in general are usually lame. Occasionally I see a cool one (As a child, I lived in awe of a man who had Wolverine tattooed on his arm!) but at least nine times out of ten, I'm of the opinion that the person would look better without the tattoo. If that makes me a member of the "reactionary middle class" then that's alright by me. (Although I think I just prefer more natural looks, as I'm not a fan of makeup or piercings either) They don't offend me, or my sense of morality, I just don't think they look very good.

 

[Elta]

she looks, like, 13...

Abaddon...Can you take a seat over there, sir?

That girl looks disturbingly young...

Put the pipe down



This is trolling right?

It has to be.