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The very many questions-not-worth-their-own-thread question thread XXXI

Discussion in 'Picture Threads Archive' started by Cutlass, Dec 1, 2016.

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  1. Chukchi Husky

    Chukchi Husky Lone Wolf

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    This is a question I was asked recently.

    Why do people like anything that's made by Joss Whedon?
     
  2. Broken_Erika

    Broken_Erika Neurotic Panda

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    Firefly Rules!
     
  3. warpus

    warpus In pork I trust

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    Joss Whedon is great at character creation, from what I've seen anyway. I've met plenty of people who disliked Buffy, Alien: Resurrection, etc. though so I don't think the question stands up to scrutiny.

    I also don't understand what sort of name "Joss" is.
     
  4. Gori the Grey

    Gori the Grey Lord of Misrule

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    Buffyspeak.
     
  5. Traitorfish

    Traitorfish The Tighnahulish Kid

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    He writes accessibly relatable characters, he knows how to mix action and narrative, and he's got an ear for dialogue with falling into self-indulgence.

    He's also been very good at cultivating a brand, and I don't really mean that cynically, because I think it's most inadvertent, the result of being an active early-adopted of social media with a built-in audience through the Firefly and Buffy fandoms. Even thought not a lot of his output in the last decade has itself carried a clear "Whedon" brand, he's been quite good at reminding people that he exists and is active, and I think people respond well when they can put a product to a face, especially when the mainstreaming of nerd culture, and of superhero movies in particular, has been dominated by anonymising house styles.

    My guess is, short for "Jossums".

    edit: Wikipedia say it's "Joseph". Boring.
     
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    Lohrenswald nIGHTMARE

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    Mouthwash Escaped Lunatic

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    Question for progressives: can someone transition to a different race or species? If not, how do they differ from gender-transitions?

    (Not trying to be contentious here, I'm just interested in the answer.)
     
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    Traitorfish The Tighnahulish Kid

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    The common wisdom is that transgenderism has a real if still somewhat mysterious physical basis, that it's rooted in a mis-match between brain and body; that it's fundamentally a question of sex, and the whole complicated issue of gender follows from that. Race is a way of categorising physical traits, not a physical trait or set of physical in itself, so there's no mechanism by which a person could plausibly be born into a body of the "wrong race". Species pretty much speaks for itself.
     
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  9. The_J

    The_J Say No 2 Net Validations Retired Moderator Supporter

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    Microbes can (yeah, I know, not what was asked for).
     
  10. warpus

    warpus In pork I trust

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    Didn't Michael Jackson transition from one race to another successfully as well?
     
  11. Mouthwash

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    So you reject non-binary sexual identities?

    By changing his skin color. It wasn't merely a matter of him identifying as white.
     
  12. Traitorfish

    Traitorfish The Tighnahulish Kid

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    I'm dubious. I don't want to rule it out categorically, but I haven't encountered a convincing explanation of how it's supposed to work, mechanically.
     
  13. Mouthwash

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    It's refreshing to hear someone advocate transgenderism on the basis that it is something real, not because it is how someone 'identifies.'
     
  14. Gori the Grey

    Gori the Grey Lord of Misrule

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    There was Rachel Dolezal.
     
  15. Traitorfish

    Traitorfish The Tighnahulish Kid

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    That was the progressive common sense until very recently. Still is, I think, for most people. It seems to me that some quite vocal people have simply gotten carried away with certain trains of thought, a little too impressed with how internally-coherent their reasoning seems to worry about verifying it empirically, and that a lot of other people, who are perhaps more anxious about being progressive than being right, have adopted certain aspects of their jargon and rhetoric without really considering about how or even if it's compatible with their rest of their assumptions about sex and gender.
     
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  16. Arakhor

    Arakhor Dremora Courtier Moderator

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    Jackson had a skin condition. He may have had plastic surgery, but I doubt he could have done much about his skin colour.
     
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    Broken_Erika Neurotic Panda

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    Had he lived another 10-20 years his skin would have probably turned transparent.
     
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    Arakhor Dremora Courtier Moderator

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    Vitiligo doesn't make the skin go transparent, from what I've heard. It just turns it dead white, which is noticeable even amongst fair-skinned people.
     
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    He claimed to have a disease which turned his skin white. IMHO, he was skin bleaching.

    Here's the problem with changing races. There are IIRC 17 genetic markers which biologically determine race. People can have them in any combination. If you have 16 white and 1 black, you're going to look white. If you have 15 black and 2 white, you're going to look black. But how many to you need to switch in order to transition?

    Legally, it's a whole new kettle of fish. States' Jim Crow laws differed. IIRC, in one state, if you were 1/64 black, you were black. In another if you were 1/64 white you were white. In another, you had to be 33/64 white in order to be white. Nowadays,, I don't believe there's a legal definition.

    The larger question is should it makkter. Shouldn't people be judged on the content of their character, not the color of their skin?
     
  20. Takhisis

    Takhisis Would-be overnight hero

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    Prose? Seriously?
     
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