The Very-Many-Questions-Not-Worth-Their-Own-Thread Thread XXXIV

[Synobun]

I am not quite sure what you mean. Vector based graphics packages can specify lines to an arbitratory accuracy, and you have to use them for producing high quality images. The expensive profesional one is Adobe Illustrator, the free clone is InkScape. They are quite different from drawing packages like photoshop / gimp, I have never got the hang of them.

I somehow already have InkScape installed but completely forgot about it.

But yes, I meant vector-based line/shape work. I've been looking for designers and have had two send me logos that are worse than what I can do by myself in Photoshop... so I'm pretty much resigned to just doing it myself as best I can until I can afford a corporate professional.

 

[The_J]

If you get the hang of it, then you can do quite some nice stuff in Inkscape, give it a try .

That may be. Most of the meat I eat on my pizzas is highly processed with lots of salt which I believe also extends the time it can sit out and still be okay to eat.

Yes, that is absolutely true. The more processed, the more likely it is to hold on longer, because more life-killing ingredients are most likely in.

I might have to rectify my statement though: The 4 hours might have been also for processed meat (unless you absolutely burnt it to coal, maybe).
A quick calculation: An average E.coli has a replication time of 20 minutes. Means if there are 2 cells initally, it would be 2**4 cells after 1h, and after 4h 2**13 cells. That is totally sufficient to make you sick, in case it's a pathogenic strain. Most of the other dangerous bacteria (Salmonella, Shigella, whatever) do not replicate that fast, but probably enough, still.
I have not looked up the actual reasoning, but that's my feeling.

 

[hobbsyoyo]

I somehow already have InkScape installed but completely forgot about it.

But yes, I meant vector-based line/shape work. I've been looking for designers and have had two send me logos that are worse than what I can do by myself in Photoshop... so I'm pretty much resigned to just doing it myself as best I can until I can afford a corporate professional.

Yeah illustrator is great. The subscription isn't too pricey. It does have a learning curve though.

 

[Cutlass]

This is what the Red Cross says;

Food Safety During an Emergency -
What Should I Do?

• Do not open the refrigerator or freezer. Tell your little ones not to open the door. An unopened refrigerator will keep foods cold enough for a couple of hours at least. A freezer that is half full will hold for up to 24 hours and a full freezer for 48 hours. Instead, eat shelf-stable foods.

• If it looks like the power outage will be for more than 2-4 hours, pack the important items in your refrigerator, such as milk, dairy products, meats, fish, poultry, eggs, and left-overs into your cooler surrounded by ice. Keep temperature at or below 40 degrees. Throw away any items that have been exposed to temperatures greater than 40 degrees for more than two hours.

• If it looks like the power outage will be prolonged beyond a day or so, prepare another cooler with ice for the items in your freezer.

http://www.redcross.org/get-help/how-to-prepare-for-emergencies/types-of-emergencies/food-safety

 

[Arakhor]

I guess that's their exclusively American site. So much for a world organisation, eh?

 

[Cutlass]

Red Cross has been increasingly failing from a management and organizational perspective over recent years.

 

[The_J]

The original question was a bit different though, relating to room temperature.
I think I'd throw most food away if it was for that amount of time in the burning sun in summer.

 

[cardgame]

temperature greater than 40 for 2+ hours means room temperature is included.

Although I'm pretty sure I've defrosted meats and forgot about them for about 2 hours and then just refroze them no problem.

 

[warpus]

I just walked around with a dozen frozen pork pierogies in my backpack in 32C (39 with humidex) weather. for an hour and a half or so.

I came home, looked at my pierogies, which for a half an hour of that were nestled among many cold cans of beverage, but I guess that wasn't enough and now I basically have 1 big mutant pierog. I am not sure how to cook it, any ideas?

edit: I am pretty sure the meat inside is already cooked. Usually all I do is I boil them and I fry them in butter after maybe. This has actually happened before and boiling definitely doesn't work. Everything falls apart layer by layer, all the meat falls out into the water, and it's just a big mess

 

[Ferocitus]

I'm 99% positive that meat of any kind is ruined after 24 hours in room temp.

Even venison?

 

[Ferocitus]

I came home, looked at my pierogies, which for a half an hour of that were nestled among many cold cans of beverage, but I guess that wasn't enough and now I basically have 1 big mutant pierog.

You described something very similar to what I felt like after a vasectomy 30 years ago.

 

[cardgame]

I just walked around with a dozen frozen pork pierogies in my backpack in 32C (39 with humidex) weather. for an hour and a half or so.

But why?

 

[warpus]

But why?

I was leaving work on a friday before a long weekend and had some frozen pierogies in the freezer at work. Figured the cold beers I was picking up on the way home would keep them "frozen enough" but underestimated the ongoing heatwave and the ability of the vietnamese restaurant where I ate dinner of keeping my backpack cool

 

[Takhisis]

Because in pork he trusts, cardgame.

What's the best program for doing line work? Photoshop makes lines, drawn or generated, all jagged.

As pointed out above, I'd say Inkscape since you already have it.

I just walked around with a dozen frozen pork pierogies in my backpack in 32C (39 with humidex) weather. for an hour and a half or so.

I came home, looked at my pierogies, which for a half an hour of that were nestled among many cold cans of beverage, but I guess that wasn't enough and now I basically have 1 big mutant pierog. I am not sure how to cook it, any ideas?

edit: I am pretty sure the meat inside is already cooked. Usually all I do is I boil them and I fry them in butter after maybe. This has actually happened before and boiling definitely doesn't work. Everything falls apart layer by layer, all the meat falls out into the water, and it's just a big mess

If all else fails, cut it into pieces and make some sort of pudding. It could be surprisingly tasty and edible.

 

[warpus]

Pudding to me means "semi-liquid sweet thing you eat with a spoon"

I might try baking it

 

[Synobun]

Make some meatloaf monstrosity with the mutant pierogi in the centre of it all.

 

[bhavv]

Are there any other Indians / Hindus here?

My mother worships coconuts and thinks she absolutely has to bless my new house by putting a coconut in the sink. She was severely upset when I denied her this and called her a crazed crackpot, and not because I called her a crazed crackpot but because this is what everybody in India does and its absolutely mandatory to get religious beliefs to shove a coconut in my sink.

Instead I'll be getting a restraining order against her asap.

 

[Takhisis]

Or just let her place a coconut in the sink and then eat the damned thing.

 

[bhavv]

Or just let her place a coconut in the sink and then eat the damned thing.

Stuff like this gets young kids taken away from their parents and put into custody nowadays you know. And Ive had to deal with this lunacy since birth.

 

[Ferocitus]

She was severely upset when I denied her this.

Are you sure that's why she's upset and that it isn't because she has seen
your posts about her fondness for large hairy "spheres"?