The world would be a much happier place if...

[GenMarshall]

And gold diggers? Why is it so bad to be shallowly aiming to bed a man because he's rich, but quite alright for the men to aim to bed a girl because she's got breasts implants and peroxide? Raising your estimate of someone's attractiveness because they're high-status or rich is fairly sensible, I would have thought. Certainly it's no worse than judging solely on physical attractiveness. That is not the same as being a gold-digger.

I just find it shallow that a woman is only after my weath and not what counts on the inside of a person. What happens if a man goes broke for some economic tragety such as the economy going bad as well as layoffs. The gold digger woman would dump the guy who lost his money.

[/mad ********-sounding rant]

OMG!! Secret ********! Everyone! Run Run!

 

[Atlas14]

Seriously, what is wrong with admiring beauty, external or internal? Everyone finds something beautiful. But to set money or social status as a main deciding force in choosing men...

 

[Sophie 378]

The truth is women like it MORE! It's scientificly proven that women are more physicaly sensitive, so they feel more pain and more pleasure, plus they get multiple org@$@ms.

Please could you find some scientific papers on this? I don't think that's very accurate. Many women aren't interested in, or afraid of or similar, sex. When you aren't in the mood, or are afraid or similar - sex can be very painful. Hence rape being a crime - and more women being afraid of sex.

EDIT. Since Drool4Res-pect has edited his, I shall edit this to a less rude version ... please don't hurt me, moderators

Spoiler original text in response to quote above :

Right, link to some scientific papers to prove it, please, then I might believe you. A lot of women don't like it or are afraid or disgusted or similar. And, newsflash: if they're not in the mood, it hurts. Yes, physical pain. Most people find that a bad thing, you know. That's why there's a thing called rape, where it is considered a crime rather than "omg thank you for sexing me up I really needed that".

 

[Eukaryote]

You know, one of the biggest turn-offs for me is when guys start spouting about how they've got to be the alpha male to get all the good-looking women to be at their beck and call. Acting alpha male is, not to put too fine a point on it, rather stupid. There is only one real alpha per, what, dozen or twenty or so people? Come on, statistically, what are the chances that all of you are alpha males? And do you really think that the only way that you'll ever get laid is to act like how you think an alpha should be? What next, club her and give her a tigerskin?
Another point: not all "Women are as sex hungry as men". Some aren't interested, some are scared, and some are disgusted. Some are avoiding sex for religious reasons. And you know what? Just because someone is sex-hungry, doesn't mean that they really want sex, or that they intend to have it, or that they'd put it ahead of, say, doing the shopping or their career. Some people are hungry all the time; should they eat because hunger is a natural thing that tells you that you need more food? Sex-appreciation is because of physical sensations, it seems. Well, tough luck, nerve endings, you're not the most important thing in my life, I'm more interested in getting my degree than having sex. Not everything is about sex, whatever Freud said.
And gold diggers? Why is it so bad to be shallowly aiming to bed a man because he's rich, but quite alright for the men to aim to bed a girl because she's got breasts implants and peroxide? Raising your estimate of someone's attractiveness because they're high-status or rich is fairly sensible, I would have thought. Certainly it's no worse than judging solely on physical attractiveness. That is not the same as being a gold-digger.

[/mad ********-sounding rant]

I applaud your rant, it was very good, but I must say you did screw a part up: When you pointed out reasons for a girl to not want sex, those we're all reasons a guy might not want it too. You said those we're reasons why a lot of girls arn't as sex hungry as guys, well not all guys are as sex hungry as any other guy becuase of reasons like that!

Also it should be noted that most people including men don't want sex for purely phisical reasons. I think that most guys would much rather have sex with the girl they actully care about than Carmen Electra. I sure would. (but since I'm 13 I'll take not having sex at all if that's an option)

 

[Winston Khan]

Right, link to some scientific papers to prove it, please, then I might believe you. A lot of women don't like it or are afraid or disgusted or similar. And, newsflash: if they're not in the mood, it hurts. Yes, physical pain. Most people find that a bad thing, you know. That's why there's a thing called rape, where it is considered a crime rather than "omg thank you for sexing me up I really needed that".

Errr, I'm gonna go with Sophie on this one......

I think she knows better than a bloke does about how it feels, however I know that women like it just as much as men, they just dont discuss it as much, or think about it as much, or perhaps, do it as much. (But they would like to!!)

 

[Yuri2356]

*snip*
[/mad ********-sounding rant]

Soph, that's even close to ********. You didn't once mention the Evil Y-Chromal conspiracy to surpress the truth about the mystical Matriarchal paradise that existed in ages past where everyone lived in peace and harmony before the evil, male-dominated groups destroyed them With their hate and their sharp metal objects...

Also, you didn't threaten to castrate anyone or make statements about rounding up all the XYs into camps...

I bet you don't even have the 'stache. Poser.

 

[Eukaryote]

Right, link to some scientific papers to prove it, please, then I might believe you. A lot of women don't like it or are afraid or disgusted or similar. And, newsflash: if they're not in the mood, it hurts. Yes, physical pain. Most people find that a bad thing, you know. That's why there's a thing called rape, where it is considered a crime rather than "omg thank you for sexing me up I really needed that".

I admit that I don't know where I heard this.

I never denied what you said and I agree withe you. And I'm smart enough to do so. Honestly, it feels bad to know that you think I'm this stupid. I get enough misinterpretation of what I say and foul responses when I actully am trying to argue on CFC, and it always makes me feel disrespected to have somebody talk to me like this when I'm only trying to contribute by saying what I've heard. Sophie, it's not pleasent to send nice words out and get bad ones back. And remeber, a lot of Men are afriad or disgusted or simalir.

 

[Admiral Kutzov]

hi sophie, pretty good rant.

any dumbass who forces himself on a woman is guilty of rape

I have trouble resonding to your post without sounding like a rapist. most guys think about sex all the time. nothing to do with feelings etc. married for 15 years and never strayed. interestin discussion.

 

[Sophie 378]

Sorry, Drool4Res-pect. I didn't mean to imply that you were stupid or anything, I just misinterpreted you. The way you said "fact" after making a statement that "The truth is women like it MORE!" - that just annoyed me. Sorry.

 

[Eukaryote]

And gold diggers? Why is it so bad to be shallowly aiming to bed a man because he's rich, but quite alright for the men to aim to bed a girl because she's got breasts implants and peroxide? Raising your estimate of someone's attractiveness because they're high-status or rich is fairly sensible, I would have thought. Certainly it's no worse than judging solely on physical attractiveness. That is not the same as being a gold-digger.

[/mad ********-sounding rant]

I agree, going after a trip to Venice and a limo is no worse than going after green eyes and double dees.

 

[Eukaryote]

Sorry, Drool4Res-pect. I didn't mean to imply that you were stupid or anything, I just misinterpreted you. The way you said "fact" after making a statement that "The truth is women like it MORE!" - that just annoyed me. Sorry.

Well all's well that ends well isn't it? I guess I should make my posts less difinitive.

 

[Sophie 378]

Let's forgive and forget and so on

And I'm glad I entertained you all with my rant.

Hauling this thread back to the original topic ... maybe everyone would be happier if everyone wanted the same things. (I can't help but think of the No Human Choice thread that got locked ...) However, what about all the different cultures and their different attitudes to sex? Would that make a big difference to the happiness-quotient?

 

[ThERat]

interesting topic...my 2cents...

not ALL women are interested in sex, some aren't even if they are put in the right mood etc. Maybe it's in their stars. Some are very interested, but our social pressure makes them act as if they aren't. Religion plays a huge role in this. Why I say this?
Japan is a fairly non-religious country and thus very free about sex. Find a girl there that is actually interested and she will not have any restrictions or feel 'it's bad to be horny'. This is the most attractive kind of woman, because she can be herself without feeling ashamed and making the guy feel bad because of his sex drive...

about 'women go for status'. yes, it's in their genes, but it is overhyped just as the rumor that every guy would like to bed 'certain' girls. I wouldn't believe this, maybe some people 'dream' about those people in their secret fantasies, but in real life, they would still choose normal people of their own status

 

[AceChilla]

Please find me a woman that does not enjoy an orgasm and Ill rethink my position that all woman like sex.

 

[CaptainF]

Let's forgive and forget and so on

And I'm glad I entertained you all with my rant.

Hauling this thread back to the original topic ... maybe everyone would be happier if everyone wanted the same things. (I can't help but think of the No Human Choice thread that got locked ...) However, what about all the different cultures and their different attitudes to sex? Would that make a big difference to the happiness-quotient?

A lot of other cultures, other than the chastity belt culture of the west, don't view sex as that big of a deal.

Which is a good thing. I'm sick of these damn moral policing prudes threatening to take a pair of pliers to philandering genitals.

 

[ThERat]

Please find me a woman that does not enjoy an orgasm and Ill rethink my position that all woman like sex

sex doesn't equal orgasm, that's the problem...

 

[skadistic]

sex doesn't equal orgasm, that's the problem...

It does if you know your doing.

 

[ThERat]

I don't doubt that there would be anyone who doesn't enjoy an orgasm, but there are a lot of guys (and some girls) who aren't really good at sex or don't care about the other party, so sex isn't always that fulfilling for both...someone might end up frustrated and stop craving for it...

or are you guys trying to tell me that you are the superheroes in bed and always 'get it right'

 

[skadistic]

or are you guys trying to tell me that you are the superheroes in bed and always 'get it right'

Super dooper hero. PM me for tips.

 

[AceChilla]

I don't doubt that there would be anyone who doesn't enjoy an orgasm, but there are a lot of guys (and some girls) who aren't really good at sex or don't care about the other party, so sex isn't always that fulfilling for both...someone might end up frustrated and stop craving for it...

or are you guys trying to tell me that you are the superheroes in bed and always 'get it right'

Every guy who puts a little effort and time in it should be able to give a girl a orgams through clitoral stimulation.

Maybe not a Vaginal orgasm via intercourse but clitorally most certainly.

PM Skadistic for tips