The world would be a much happier place if...

Dawgphood001 said:
Chastity when one isn't married is just pitiful really.

No, it's not. It's not a belief that I hold, but a lot of people are going to great lengths for their religion. Having that kind of discipline is pitiful? That's a ridiculous insinuation that you're making.
 
clarify what you are debating.

Chastity before marraige due to religion?

or actions based on beliefs?
 
Gogf said:
No, it's not. It's not a belief that I hold, but a lot of people are going to great lengths for their religion. Having that kind of discipline is pitiful? That's a ridiculous insinuation that you're making.

In my opinion, those who abstain from sex before marriage tend to marry for sex only, or at least with sex as a bigger deciding factor than it should be.
 
Dawgphood001 said:
In my opinion, those who abstain from sex before marriage tend to marry for sex only.

I highly dispute that. I know an awful lot of people who didn't have sex before marriage, and their marriages are on average about the same as anyone else's. Maybe you just roll with a different crowd.
 
Dawgphood001 said:
In my opinion, those who abstain from sex before marriage tend to marry for sex only, or at least with sex as a bigger deciding factor than it should be.

And as an unmarried (I assume) high school student who probably doesn't have very many married friends, you are clearly an expert on the subject.
 
I am a college graduate, and I have a lot of married acquaintances. Most of them are Mormon, which may or may not skew my data.

I personally think it is unlikely I will ever get married. But if I do, I don't think that sex will lead me to get married to someone I wouldn't otherwise marry; I don't think about it a lot, we can wait on discussing it in detail until the engagement and wait on actually doing it until after the wedding.
 
geez, some of you people are acting crazy! I mean come one, right now I have just about the highest level of hormones I will ever have for the rest of my life (at age 14) and I am not controlled like that. I almost never think about having sex with someone or envisioning people naked, etc. etc. When I get to know a girl I don't care how much time she spends combing her hair or how she put on her lipstick. I love all people and if a girl who has the biggest breasts in the school, spends nearly all her time trying to make herself "beautiful" etc, it will only make me feel sorry for her. Who cares how much someone wants to have sex? I know many people who are obssesed with sex and contrary to what dawgphood (If I remember correctly) said they are always tense, unrelaxed, and uptight, ready to pounce on you if you offend them type people. On the other hand people like me who are not obssesed are some of the most relaxed people. Seriously, listen to your selves, you almost crazed! Also, in case you are wondering, I'm not sheltered or anything, I personally made the choice to not be obssesedwith sex.

The world would be a much happier place if we could let go of our hate, not if people become more obssesed with trivial matters.

p.s. yes I know that the human race depends on sex, but I call it trivial because as long as we do that it really doesn't matter.
 
augurey said:
That was a horrible choice of wording.
I thought it was quite appropriate.

Admiral Kutzov said:
agreed, you have to be more sensitive
I am quite sensitive but I also aim to keep it real. How would you have phrased it?

greenpeace said:
geez, some of you people are acting crazy! I mean come one, right now I have just about the highest level of hormones I will ever have for the rest of my life (at age 14) and I am not controlled like that. I almost never think about having sex with someone or envisioning people naked, etc. etc. When I get to know a girl I don't care how much time she spends combing her hair or how she put on her lipstick. I love all people and if a girl who has the biggest breasts in the school, spends nearly all her time trying to make herself "beautiful" etc, it will only make me feel sorry for her. Who cares how much someone wants to have sex? I know many people who are obssesed with sex and contrary to what dawgphood (If I remember correctly) said they are always tense, unrelaxed, and uptight, ready to pounce on you if you offend them type people. On the other hand people like me who are not obssesed are some of the most relaxed people. Seriously, listen to your selves, you almost crazed! Also, in case you are wondering, I'm not sheltered or anything, I personally made the choice to not be obssesedwith sex.
Wow, that was quite a long rant about sex!

greenpeace said:
The world would be a much happier place if we could let go of our hate, not if people become more obssesed with trivial matters.
Calling other people's interests "trivial" is a form of hate.

greenpeace said:
p.s. yes I know that the human race depends on sex, but I call it trivial because as long as we do that it really doesn't matter.
huh?
 
I am quite sensitive but I also aim to keep it real. How would you have phrased it?
well seeing as you are from CA, let me put it the redneck vernacular. :LOL:

Women are as sex hungry as men.

They just require more whetting of the appetiteHow would you have phrased it?

well now you're asking about redneck secret stuff.

this is going to cause howls of outrage. but it all boils down to git er drunk and she'll do whom she really wants to. in vino veritus or whatever

yes, I am sensistive to the those of the religious persuasion here. I'm just commenting on personal experience. I met my wife after she passed out on me after a football game(she fell asleep on my shoulder). the PC crowd is prolly appalled, but we've been together almost 20 years and I'm not cheating.

greenpeace, I didn't realize you young you are. My apologies for previous caustic comments.

just out of curiousity, who visits the babe thread. Not to point fingers, but IIRC, Narz has been there.

so what are y'all looking for in that thread?
 
Eran of Arcadia said:
I highly dispute that. I know an awful lot of people who didn't have sex before marriage, and their marriages are on average about the same as anyone else's. Maybe you just roll with a different crowd.

In Oxford University we have a large cadre of evangelical Christians. These tend to pair with each other, and inevitably marry, sometimes still as students, before others have even considered such a step because they want to consummate their relationship. I think that it's better to wait until both sides are more mature, and have had more time to settle into working life, and can truly say that they want to marry.
 
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