Terxpahseyton
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You deserve none of my sorry. Instead, and apparently, I have to repeat the following: until this post you NEVER UTTERED AN ACTUAL QUESTION. Bow to that and you may grow. As long as you don't you stay a troll. Not because I was special (I am just a talking meat back as anyone, naturally), but because you acted the fool and will not stop until you admitted to have done so.What does this even mean? Sorry for being too plebian and not sophisticated enough for your genius.
Finally. Not much to glow about on your part, but I am glad about the eventual substance you provide.Okay so here's a criticism for you
And you disappoint me. I mean – you may not. But so far, you again reversed to stating x was y without explaining how that was so. But the statement itself is, I am sure you will agree, meaningless without a reason to believe it. Even if this guy (you!) has required credentials of much importance. Since his or her audience has no way to rely on them.My criticism lies in the fact that you are simply asking a question that has largely been answered in the sense that liberal/free market economics isn't a right or wrong question, but rather an efficient vs. inefficient argument.
Truly, Wrymouth, you apparently seem to - admittedly based on a much limited sample - see arrogant and self-important enemies in those which remind you of the great and much basic flaws in your reasoning. You appear like an infant of reasoning to me who wants to be a great king without learning much. That is a shattering, insulting judgment for you, I know. But if you truly wish to be a proud man, I a promise you will have to come to understand and accept this criticism.
There are many things in the world that irritates me![]()

I am not sure it should be viewed as such, to the contrary really, but I see that it does. It is part of the great mathematicianing of social sciences which started more or less after WWII. To put it rough - back then a movement in social sciences started which endeavored to quantify it all. It had in the end quit a bit far from complete success in fields like sociology or political science - however, in economics, which IMO is the most central science (a believe I share with Marx), it managed to dominate almost completely. And that had grave consequences. It lead to a discipline of economics which solely was concerned with the interests of the capital. Just simply by mere design of its numerical system. A tragic development, really. But one with unplanned and all the more uncontrolled and dire consequences. Consequences which created its own social reality. Today we life in a society which is ever more controlled by capitalistic interests, embodied by lobby organizations. If you start to really dig into the connections between politics and cooperations, it becomes just more and more depressing and soberingI suppose you might try to get at some sort natural science vs. social science thing
But I don't understand why philosophy should be viewed as less tangiable than economics
The contrast to that is a reasoned point of view. A point of view resting on human reasoning rather than the cold self-perpetuating natural numerical logic of the capitalistic system which penetrates all levels of society and cares ZERO about actual human feelings. It is anarchy. Connectionless. Or rather, a direction flowing towards only one thing, to make it hard for the many and easy for the few. That is capitalism. Got its perks, I of course readily admit. It is better then what came before. But it also is so much worse than what we could decide to have, IMO.
1. Employment, your way to earn money largely dictates your life. That often isn't very clear to those who are young. But it is how it is in this society and everyone - everyone - will eventually have to accept that.As for Marx' philosophy: that is something I for a long time have wanted to understand, but I haven't achieved it yet. I do remember him saying something like all bonds between people becoming economical ones
Which leads me to another thing:
You seem to rant about inter-personal relations suffering in capitalism, but I don't understand in what way you think
2. Employment is largely controlled by capital. Capital tends to care about nothing but increasing capital. Naturally - quality of living of the employees tends to be irrelevant.
And that means a huge chunk of life that is dictated by the interest of a fleetingly small group. And this small group is not even making wise use of their interests. They are as much caught up in a pissing contest as are their employees.
Inter-personal-relations, are they suffering under such a system?
Hahahahaha....Hahahha...HAHA!
Frack yes they are. What do you even know about such relations to have to wonder, is IMO the clearly better question.
And yes there are alternatives. Even in this adversary capital-controlled and capital-interests-driven environment, some companies sail against the wind and succeed. For instance I have read about a Basque company which is owned by its employees. And the impact on the living quality of thews employees is IMMENSE. FRELLING IMMENSE.
Guess how immense it is within the calculations of our wise economists. It does not even exist. Why? Because they are frelling frellsuckers without any backbone let alone brain, if you'd allow me to get very emotional and I suppose unfair (though not entirely untrue!).