TIL: Today I Learned

[Hrothbern]

Actus reus ("guilty act") is the actual external element of a crime, the act itself that causes harm. This is to be contrasted with the other main component of a crime, mens rea ("guilty mind").

TIL that those two are the very foundation of criminal law.
Regarding that Actus Reus.... that is defined as a positive act. And from quote below: by not doing an act, by omission or failure, you seem to be not criminally liable (with some exceptions).

Omission, or failure, to act generally carries no liabilities. That means a person can only be criminally liable where they have performed a positive act.
Let’s use the classic example of person A walking past a drowning person B. Person B can be saved if person A holds their hand. Person A doesn’t hold their hand and person B drowns. Person A is not liable.
https://www.allaboutlaw.co.uk/stage/study-help/criminal-law-actus-reus-mens-rea

I find that odd.
I can understand the difficulty to provide the evidence that someone did not hold that hand "willing and knowing", but I would judge that person A as responsible if A could have done that rescue without any risk for his own life.
But perhaps this is only in UK Law, or perhaps Roman Law.

 

[Zkribbler]

But perhaps this is only in UK Law, or perhaps Roman Law.

and Massachusetts law as well. [See the series finale of Seinfeld.]

 

[Timsup2nothin]

TIL that those two are the very foundation of criminal law.
Regarding that Actus Reus.... that is defined as a positive act. And from quote below: by not doing an act, by omission or failure, you seem to be not criminally liable (with some exceptions).


I find that odd.
I can understand the difficulty to provide the evidence that someone did not hold that hand "willing and knowing", but I would judge that person A as responsible if A could have done that rescue without any risk for his own life.
But perhaps this is only in UK Law, or perhaps Roman Law.

Places that hold person A responsible generally (in the US at least) need a parallel "good Samaritan protection" law. Too many cases where person A grabs person B by the hand, pulls them out of the water saving their life...and gets sued; person B has shoulder damage from the pulling because "they pulled too hard," or brain damage and the family says "they could have pulled sooner." Many states have these laws that protect a "person of good intent" against these kinds of lawsuits, but YMMV.

 

[Hrothbern]

Places that hold person A responsible generally (in the US at least) need a parallel "good Samaritan protection" law. Too many cases where person A grabs person B by the hand, pulls them out of the water saving their life...and gets sued; person B has shoulder damage from the pulling because "they pulled too hard," or brain damage and the family says "they could have pulled sooner." Many states have these laws that protect a "person of good intent" against these kinds of lawsuits, but YMMV.

Yes !

 

[Samson]

TIL that the trumps fake news idea has precedent, there was an old Nazi slogan "Lügenpresse" (lying press). (edited spelling, thanks Zkribbler)

 

[Zkribbler]

TIL that the trumps fake news idea has president,

The President has precedence.

 

[Zkribbler]

Today I learned that if you're on, say, a crowded trans-Atlantic flight and the person sitting next to you dies, the airline has no place to store the body, so the dead person is staying right there until you land.

 

[Snerk]

How about flung over the drinks&snacks trolley? I really hope I can be a nuisance to as many people as possible after I die.

 

[Broken_Erika]

How about flung over the drinks&snacks trolley? I really hope I can be a nuisance to as many people as possible after I die.

How about in the bathroom? Then no-one can use it until they land.

 

[rah]

Strap them to one of the crew's jump seats.

 

[SS-18 ICBM]

I've been wondering about those 24h YouTube streams of shows like Family Guy or the Simpsons. It's all about the ad revenue the creators collect.

 

[Takhisis]

Today I learned that if you're on, say, a crowded trans-Atlantic flight and the person sitting next to you dies, the airline has no place to store the body, so the dead person is staying right there until you land.

IIRC you're an empiricist…

 

[Timsup2nothin]

Today I learned that if you're on, say, a crowded trans-Atlantic flight and the person sitting next to you dies, the airline has no place to store the body, so the dead person is staying right there until you land.

On the submarine if someone died we would have to put them in the freezer, which involved taking all the food out of the freezer, which meant a one day orgy of eating followed by slow starvation until reaching port.

 

[Samson]

On the submarine if someone died we would have to put them in the freezer, which involved taking all the food out of the freezer, which meant a one day orgy of eating followed by slow starvation until reaching port.

I have to ask why? With 134 (?) people on board it has to be a very real possibility, and given a choice between burial at sea and putting a major dent in the US nuclear deterrent I would have thought have been an easy choice for the powers that be.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

I have to ask why? With 134 (?) people on board it has to be a very real possibility, and given a choice between burial at sea and putting a major dent in the US nuclear deterrent I would have thought have been an easy choice for the powers that be.

C'mon man, you can't get away with "well, he was dead so we dumped him." Submarines don't even have a doctor on board so technically there isn't anyone qualified to sign a death certificate. The outcry of "Foul play! Cover up!" would be absolutely deafening.

Besides, who said anything about a dent in the nuclear deterrent? I just said slow starvation until reaching port, not that we would have gotten into port any sooner than originally planned.

 

[Birdjaguar]

On the submarine if someone died we would have to put them in the freezer, which involved taking all the food out of the freezer, which meant a one day orgy of eating followed by slow starvation until reaching port.

I would think that a torpedo tube would suffice as a holding location.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

I would think that a torpedo tube would suffice as a holding location.

Torpedo tubes are vital to the function of the ship. The freezer is just for the comfort of the crew. No question how that gets prioritized. Also, depending on where you are a torpedo tube isn't necessarily a good temperature for that purpose.

 

[Hrothbern]

For everybody loving Tolkien
The very last book ever of Tolkien is available since yesterday, based on old fragments written in 1917, when he was recovering from wounds of the Battle of the Somme, edited by his son Cristopher.

The Fall of Gondolin.

A stand-alone story that starts with the founding of Gondolin and ends with the destruction by Morgoth, many thousands of years before The Hobbit.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fall_of_Gondolin
Reading the books of Tolkien as teenager for ever changed my life. Tom Bombadil my hero.
Soon followed by Tree and Leaf, The Homecoming of Beorhtnoth, Sir Gawain and the Green Knight and so much more.

 

[Broken_Erika]

Torpedo tubes are vital to the function of the ship. The freezer is just for the comfort of the crew. No question how that gets prioritized. Also, depending on where you are a torpedo tube isn't necessarily a good temperature for that purpose.

Not to mention the chance of someone accidentally pushing the wrong button and reenacting a scene from The Simpsons... "They just fired an officer!"

 

[haanuman]

I've been wondering about those 24h YouTube streams of shows like Family Guy or the Simpsons. It's all about the ad revenue the creators collect.

I still don't understand those streams.