TIL: Today I Learned

[Traitorfish]

There's a student who was hit by a car after she ran onto a highway as part of a protest against Trump, and is now suing her University because they did organize the protest and did not prevent it from leaving the campus "spilling onto the highway", which was apparently not blocked properly.

Google says it's more complicated:

In an interview with The Guardian, Gene Sullivan, Flores’s lawyer, asserted that the university planned, organized and knew the protest was happening for hours and did nothing to stop it.

“According to Sullivan, not doing anything and failing to act is legally the same thing as supporting the protest,” the newspaper reported. “Sullivan further alleged that the protest was encouraged by people in positions of authority at the university, and that ‘if anyone that is in authority with the university – a [Residential Advisor] – says ‘let’s go,’ the university would be responsible.’”

The complaint also lists the University of California Regents, the city and county of San Diego, the state of California, and the driver of the vehicle as defendants in the lawsuit.

When asked about the lawsuit by the Los Angeles Times, Sullivan said “We think it’s a case of shared responsibility of the school, Maria and the driver, and we’re not saying that anybody is without fault or fault-free. We think other people bear some responsibility as well.”

While Sullivan admits that Flores is partially responsible for her injuries, he claims that, under the doctrine of comparative responsibility, the jury will get to decide what percentage of the injury is the fault of the plaintiff and what percentage of the injury is the fault of the defendant. Damages will be levied based on percentage.

https://www.thecollegefix.com/post/40580/

Her case may be a little dubious, but it's not clear that it's entirely frivolous.

 

[Takhisis]

It has tones, facial expressions, and deictics.

Now, to quote Andy Dufresne, you're being obtuse.

 

[Ryika]

Her case may be a little dubious, but it's not clear that it's entirely frivolous.

Oh, I don't think it's necessarily frivolous, it's just a really weird story, when a university apparently organizes a protest that at one point decides that it will attempt at interrupting traffic on a highway.

Even though she's obviously a moron for running onto a highway, if the school did organize that thing, and if they had a hand in them running onto the highway, or could have prevented it by reasonable measures, then surely they're part of the process that lead to the accident.

/edit: And "allowed it to spill onto the highway" is a really tame way of saying: "The students then decided to express their anger by ruining the day for anyone who was on their way home by blocking a highway".

 

[Ryika]

The term "third world" was originally coined to refer to countries that were neither part of the west, nor the communist bloc, and only later gained the additional meaning of being a, sometimes derogatory and/or controversial, term for developing nations.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

The term "third world" was originally coined to refer to countries that were neither part of the west, nor the communist bloc, and only later gained the additional meaning of being a, sometimes derogatory and/or controversial, term for developing nations.

As opposed to "....hole country," which has pretty consistently meant the same thing since the first time it was said.

 

[Takhisis]

A hole country, as opposed to only half?

 

[Mouthwash]

TIL that the Pope literally kidnapped a Jewish child to raise as a Catholic in 1858 and refused to return him even when it set off a worldwide anti-Catholic furor. And the Vatican has never apologized for this (instead they have beatified that pope).

My opinion of Catholicism is declining.

 

[Takhisis]

Should all neo-Pagans and Greeks demand that you apologise for the Kitos War?

 

[Mouthwash]

My opinion of Takhisis has taken a hit as well.

 

[Snerk]

I blame CFC for Takhisis. Thunderfall should apologise.

 

[Traitorfish]

TIL that the Pope literally kidnapped a Jewish child to raise as a Catholic in 1858 and refused to return him even when it set off a worldwide anti-Catholic furor. And the Vatican has never apologized for this (instead they have beatified that pope).

My opinion of Catholicism is declining.

The Catholic Church is and always has been a bastion of arrogance, cruelty, and arbitrary power.

If it seems remotely humane or civilised, it's only because the alternative is the Protestants.

 

[Takhisis]

My opinion of Takhisis has taken a hit as well.

Did you draw a knave, by any chance?

 

[Mouthwash]

The Catholic Church is and always has been a bastion of arrogance, cruelty, and arbitrary power.

I definitely remember you saying the literal opposite (but don't remember where; perhaps on the Ask a Red series).

 

[Takhisis]

C'mon, I made a black jack joke. :shakehead:

My point is that if you want to call us all out on our evulness just do so, Mouthwash, but I can guarantee we can smear any group if you want to do that.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

I definitely remember you saying the literal opposite (but don't remember where; perhaps on the Ask a Red series).

I honestly cannot imagine TF saying the opposite of that. I don't recall him saying anything particularly good about the Catholic church, ever, or any other church for that matter. It's one of his many consistencies.

 

[Mouthwash]

My point is that if you want to call us all out on our evulness just do so, Mouthwash, but I can guarantee we can smear any group if you want to do that.

The popes do claim responsibility for actions of previous holders of the office. There have been apologies for the Crusades, sanctioning of slavery, the inquisition, etc.

I honestly cannot imagine TF saying the opposite of that. I don't recall him saying anything particularly good about the Catholic church, ever, or any other church for that matter. It's one of his many consistencies.

I swear it. He was asked his opinion and said something like "it's overall a force for good in the world."

 

[Timsup2nothin]

I swear it. He was asked his opinion and said something like "it's overall a force for good in the world."

Well, heck, I never say anything particularly good about the Catholic church either, and I'd probably agree with that, most days. That isn't the opposite of what was said earlier. Sort of a perpendicular.

 

[Takhisis]

The popes do claim responsibility for actions of previous holders of the office. There have been apologies for the Crusades, sanctioning of slavery, the inquisition, etc.

And this was only 160-odd years ago? They have plenty of time to apologise, according to your metric.

 

[Mouthwash]

And this was only 160-odd years ago? They have plenty of time to apologise, according to your metric.

No, there's no indication that they will ever do so if not for public pressure (the various other apologies were made either due to it or to rehabilitate the church's progressive credentials).

 

[Takhisis]

Protests against slavery in the Americas by cultured Europeans began in the 16th century and when did the Church apologise, again?