Tiny Civ VI update just landed

There was a Civ VI update just now.
And there is Sean Bean's full voice intro for Yongle.
Yes, just sat down at the comp and there it is 120.9 MB in size.
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Edit: Incidentally, XCOM2 got the same size update as well. Something launcher related or had they to restore a Yongle there too? :)
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Edit2: "Let none speak ill of you." Full stop. Period. Sean Bean clearly has something else to say, judging by his intonation, but silence follows. The Chairman smiles.
 
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The new update is 120 MB, which is substantially larger than the previous update. It can't just be reverting the Yongle intro change (which it's apparently not doing, anyway). Launcher nonsense?
 
There may have been an update, but my Yongle is still missing the end of the quote, both in text and in Bean.
They surely wouldn't do regional differences, would they?
 
They surely wouldn't do regional differences, would they?
I don't think they'd ship two vocal tracks, but they would definitely have differences in the intro text. For example, the French translation doesn't even bother with the "Let none speak ill of you." bit.

"Le monde n'attend que vous, ô grand Ming Yongle de Chine. Tendez la main et emparez-vous de ses richesses et de son savoir. Placez votre nation au centre de toutes choses, et laissez les autres civilisations venir à vous en vous suppliant."

Heh, the Italian one doesn't have that part either. I bet that whoever had to chop off the end didn't know how to modify the sentences in some languages!
 
I don't think they'd ship two vocal tracks, but they would definitely have differences in the intro text. For example, the French translation doesn't even bother with the "Let none speak ill of you." bit.

"Le monde n'attend que vous, ô grand Ming Yongle de Chine. Tendez la main et emparez-vous de ses richesses et de son savoir. Placez votre nation au centre de toutes choses, et laissez les autres civilisations venir à vous en vous suppliant."

Heh, the Italian one doesn't have that part either. I bet that whoever had to chop off the end didn't know how to modify the sentences in some languages!
Didn't even occur to me that this is something that would be done in every language Civ is translated into!
 
Anyone else on MAC notice that you cant get the 1.0.12.31 update? Ive tried removing the game and reinstalling and it only installs 1.0.12.28. I play multiplayer sometimes with my PC and now I cant, very annoying.
 
Anyone else on MAC notice that you cant get the 1.0.12.31 update? Ive tried removing the game and reinstalling and it only installs 1.0.12.28. I play multiplayer sometimes with my PC and now I cant, very annoying.
Aspyr won't be giving the new update to Macs until the entire Pass is out on PC. Also, cross-platform multi-player has been disabled until then.
 
All of this makes me very worried about how Ludwig II will be portrayed in the Leader Pass.

Considering the stance of the CCP regarding homosexuality, should we expect a "heterosexualized" Fairy Tale King?

You're missing my point. I'm talking about how he is portrayed in relation to the above discussion about CCP censorship.

If he is portrayed as a masculine, heterosexual Teutonic type, then that's a fail for me.

As @Eagle Pursuit pointed out, Cleopatra flirts, and I should expect the same from Ludwig.

Circling back to the point of CCP censorship, my worry is that if the team is so focused on commercialization in China, they may decide to heterosexualize him.

Clearly, the team takes great artistic license in their portrayal of any leader in Civ.
They wouldn't need China to heterosexualize him.

In any case, I think flirting would be very silly. Cleopatra already looks like a young New Yorker dress up for an Egyptian party night (same party Gilgamesh went to. They were out of Egyptian attire at the store). Having Ludwig flirt because "gay" just comes across as a silly stereotype.

On the other hand, looking at the pictures of him, it does seem like he his channelling his gayness as much as he can through his hairstyle, so I think they are going with that.

This is probably the first time when I'm against fancy hats. That hair is too good not to be the star of the show.


Almost a recolour of  Judy Yongle, i hope the devs put effort into making him outstand
That's my fear as well. I think it's very likely he'll be carrying a book, but something else must make him more unique looking. It'll have to be the face because everything else in his attire is pretty close to Yongle.
 
A lot of this thread is very funny to me.

"how DARE firaxis never patch the game but IMMEDIATELY bow to political pressure"

Well, yes. That's exactly how it works. Patching a game is a financial exercise, often determined by the holder of the purse strings, which is overwhelmingly the publisher and not Firaxis themselves. Political leverage comes on top of that, and Firaxis I very much doubt Firaxis get a say in it. Otherwise why design, prototype, implement, QA and release the thing in the first place?

Like, be mad that political pressure in another country can change a game for all countries, for sure. But don't try and gotcha the patch priority, because that's a completely separate problem with a completely separate person (well, company) to blame.
 
A lot of this thread is very funny to me.

"how DARE firaxis never patch the game but IMMEDIATELY bow to political pressure"

Well, yes. That's exactly how it works. Patching a game is a financial exercise, often determined by the holder of the purse strings, which is overwhelmingly the publisher and not Firaxis themselves. Political leverage comes on top of that, and Firaxis I very much doubt Firaxis get a say in it. Otherwise why design, prototype, implement, QA and release the thing in the first place?

Like, be mad that political pressure in another country can change a game for all countries, for sure. But don't try and gotcha the patch priority, because that's a completely separate problem with a completely separate person (well, company) to blame.

Yeah, ultimately I agree with this but I can also see where some of the dissatisfaction appears.

This immediate reaction shows that there are some levers that can cause game updates and it’s sad to know that the “Civ fanatics” are not one of those levers (or even creating a top quality product is a lever because Dido sat for at least a year with one of her abilities just straight up not working which is just not good).

Conversely, the “Civ fanatics” did get Tamar in the game so there’s definitely influence there (and thanks to all who did btw; I can’t imagine my life without the Georgian Classical music in it).
 
Yeah, ultimately I agree with this but I can also see where some of the dissatisfaction appears.

This immediate reaction shows that there are some levers that can cause game updates and it’s sad to know that the “Civ fanatics” are not one of those levers (or even creating a top quality product is a lever because Dido sat for at least a year with one of her abilities just straight up not working which is just not good).

Conversely, the “Civ fanatics” did get Tamar in the game so there’s definitely influence there (and thanks to all who did btw; I can’t imagine my life without the Georgian Classical music in it).
I get you, but there always will be. Especially with economic incentive. It's just how stuff works. I'd rather this change hadn't been made at all, nevermind the fact that it was presumably political pressure that made the change happen. I disagree with the change and the reason why it happened.

But it's a completely separate thing to our community, or fans in general, and their relationship with the developer (or publisher). Ultimately all we can do is vote with our wallets, and that tends to cancel games more than it does create pressure to change X or Y. Not that that isn't an important vote to have. It's just not the same thing as what happened here, is all.
 
Firaxis just hotfixed the original text and VO for Yongle's intro back in!!

EDIT: it seems this may not be accurate, I am investigating.
 
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I've compared the text and listened to the audio files from before the Hotfix and my current installation and I saw/heard no reversion back to the pre-Hotfix text/audio.
The small update yesterday didn't touch any of the game files that I could see. It looks to have been something Steam and/or cross-platform functionality related.
As a side note, the only other thing I noticed that changed with the Hotfix was that of a date in Wu Zetian's pedia entry - 683 to 684.
 
Any chance someone can create a mod that puts back the original quote/Bean?
It's easy enough to revert the text. Someone who knows more about mods than I do can probably revert the audio, too, since we have the leaked version. Two caveats:

1. It might be hard to source the original text for all supported languages.
2. I'm not sure if a mod that includes the original voice recording is allowed on Steam (or elsewhere). It might violate copyright.
 
Or, the quick, dirty way would be to just overwrite those files with the pre-update ones. I have them, but honestly don't care enough to even go to that level of trouble let alone create a mod.

This whole thread is a Category 5 hurricane in a thimble.
 
Besides what TheGrumpyBuddha already mentioned, there's also the matter that a considerable amount of minor issues emerged during Civ 6's cycle that were unresolved for months. This decision reveals the company has sufficient organizational flexibility to address such issues quickly but it chooses not to.

Furthermore, the drive towards profit doesn't mean that rational steps that actually maximise profits will be taken. Companies are managed by individuals which among other things suffer from the awful condition of being human, meaning fear, shortsightedness and incompetence are involved in the decision making process.

By itself this decision may seem minor. But the swiftness reveals a certain naive eagerness at the company. Are they blind to the whole debacle that has literally just occurred at Blizzard, which is seeing that company leave the Chinese market?

The Chinese market may be huge but it also rests on uncertain grounds. Such attitudes come at a cost, in this case in the form of an increase in wariness and distrust towards the company by consumers in safer markets.

The AI science typo bug was hardly a minor thing, and it took how long to fix
 
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