Tip the pizza delivery driver!

[Ansar]

I'd very be careful if I were you.

I personally would never think of doing this and would turn someone in if I saw them doing it but people who frequently insult the driver by tipping him a few cents get a specialty pizza with extra bodily fluid. Those are the stories I've heard from other drivers who says they've done it before.

Um...sure...

Its not that you're not giving a him a tip but when you say dumb things "keep the change" for 14.98 order you are making it a point to insult somebody to their face and trust me pizza delivery people don't forget the people who do this.

I don't say keep the change. I just give them the money, take the pizza and say "Thank you, have a good night".

Plus, most of the times, they charge me an extra $5 just because it's delivery.

Remember that we do not carry exact change (no coins) so we wouldn't give it to you even if you wanted your $0.01-$0.99 back.

Yeah, I know. The last time I ordered pizza, I was supposed to get like .68 cents, but I only got about .32 . I told the guy to not worry, but thanks anyways.

I always thought it was common sense not to insult people who frequently handle your food. Its the unspoken law. :shrug: I can't honestly say I feel sorry for those people who get a thick rubbery loogey in their marinara sauce for being a dick head.

I'm not insulting them verbally or hitting them.

A tip is something optional.

 

[Bugfatty300]

I don't say keep the change, I just give them the money, take the pizza and say "Thank you, have a good night".

So why did you respond to warman17's post about pissing off the pizza guy by saying 'keep the change' and slamming the door in face with:

"I've done that plenty of times.

The delivery guy just keeps looking at me waiting for his tip."

I'm not insulting them verbally or hitting them.

You may not think you aren't insulting them, but, when you tell them to keep the coins you are insulting them by insinuating that that is their tip. They'd rather give it back to you because 60-30 cents means nothing.

http://tipthepizzaguy.com/general/not.htm

Suppose the total was $14.83. The customer gave the driver $15 and said, "Keep the change." That's only 17 cents for the tip.

Anything under $1 is considered leftover coins.

This is considered an insult to the driver. It's a small fraction of the standard amount for the tip.

Now, if you want to tip a few bucks and add the leftover coins to it, that's no problem at all.

 

[Ansar]

So why did you respond to warman's post about pissing off the pizza guy by saying keep the change and slamming the door in face with:

"I've done that plenty of times.

The delivery guy just keeps looking at me waiting for his tip."

So what were you saying you do all the time to the pizza guy?

My bad.

I thought he just meant giving the guy the money, not saying anything.

You may not think you aren't insulting them, but, when you tell them to keep the coins you are insulting them. They'd rather give it back to you because 60-30 cents means nothing to them.

Of all the things that make drivers mad, this is one of them.

http://tipthepizzaguy.com/general/not.htm

Suppose the total was $14.83. The customer gave the driver $15 and said, "Keep the change." That's only 17 cents for the tip.

Anything under $1 is considered leftover coins.

This is considered an insult to the driver. It's a small fraction of the standard amount for the tip.

Now, if you want to tip a few bucks and add the leftover coins to it, that's no problem at all.

They shouldn't depend on tips. I'd understand, tough, if it was pouring (raining heavily) outside or something similar, I would tip them, but seriously...

Get a new job.

 

[BasketCase]

Get a job where you don't depend on people to be nice.

Mine is awesome--I get paid to make peoples' lives difficult. The paycheck ain't great, but when something goes wrong, I'm not the one who draws flak--it's my job to deliver that flak.

 

[Ansar]

BasketCase - What's you job?

 

[Bugfatty300]

They shouldn't depend on tips.

Get a new job.

They shouldn't have to put up with rude and inconsiderate people. You may think you're not pissing the pizza guy off by being nice and letting him have a few cents but you shouldn't kid yourself. Its expect that you pay proper tips. Its considered rude not to. Rude people fall into disfavor with the people they deal with. Its simple as that. No one is forcing them to deliver pizzas. But no one is forcing you to tip or order deliveries from "greedy" pizza guys.

If you guys hold us in such contempt then why do you order pizza deliveries? I'm sure you love the convenience of having food brought to your door but have no problem with later calling the pizza guy a lazy bum for expecting a tip and to get a real job.

 

[Hundegesicht]

Not acting like an arse would be a good start. Review your comments where you made all kinds of crap insinuations simply because a guy says he thinks it's not right for people to cheat him of a tip.

Again, how is paying the amount you were asked to cheating?

I don't believe you

And therein lies the heart of your arguments. You seem to accuse everyone you disagree with of lying, so that's the end of the argument more or less. (I'll answer the rest of the post, just for kicks) I don't know if it's against the forum rules or not, but it's not an ethical argument, or a valid one.

Thanks for making my point about your lack of sympathy. You just made a lot of undeserved negative judgments based on assumptions. That says a lot about where your true feeling lie.

My true feelings?!? About what? It may be a language thing, but this part doesn't make any sense to me, other than it being some vaguely worded, highly stylized insult.

Calling tips "gift money" proves one of two things, you are either incredibly ignorant or just flat lying. Take you pick.

...
According to http://dictionary.reference.com/

tip [tip] noun
a gift of money given to a waiter etc, for personal service
Example: I gave him a generous tip.

So maybe calling tips "gift money" is proper use of English? Unless you're trying to redefine terms here, in which case, why should I define words on your terms instead of the terms everyone else who speaks English uses?

Either way, calling me ignorant or a liar for using proper English is nonsensical. Please justify your argument.

 

[Ansar]

You may think you're not pissing the pizza guy off by being nice and letting him have a few cents but you shouldn't kid yourself. Its expect that you pay proper tips.

Expected? Then why isn't it included in the receipt?

If you guys hold us in such contempt then why do you order pizza deliveries?

I actually dislike ordering pizzas to be delivered, I prefer to do carryout.
The only time I get delivery is when my parents are too lazy to go pick it up.

I'm sure you love the convenience of having food brought to your door but have no problem with later calling the pizza guy a lazy bum for expecting a tip and to get a real job.

I'm not telling them to get a real job. After all, delivering pizzas is a job.

I'm just saying if you don't like your job, get a new job.

 

[Bugfatty300]

Expected? Then why isn't it included in the receipt?

It is in some places and others its not. Generally the customer decides how much the tip is worth. Thats why there Tip portions on visa slips. Trust me, tips are expected. Pizza Hut's employment advertising says you earn up to $15 an hour. Thats virtually all tips. Trust me. Its expected that you give a tip.

I actually dislike ordering pizzas to be delivered, I prefer to do carryout.
The only time I get delivery is when my parents are too lazy to go pick it up.

Then make you some microwave pizza? Why do you seek our services if you don't appreciate or like it?

One thing that really bugs me are kids who order pizzas because their parents are too lazy to feed them and I end up getting paid in stacks of quarters.

I'm just saying if you don't like your job, get a new job.

So no one is allowed to vent about aspects of there job now? You expect people to walk off the job the second they become frustrated with something?

 

[Shylock]

Get a job where you don't depend on people to be nice.

Mine is awesome--I get paid to make peoples' lives difficult. The paycheck ain't great, but when something goes wrong, I'm not the one who draws flak--it's my job to deliver that flak.

Let me guess... you work for the government?

 

[Ansar]

Then make you some microwave pizza? Why do you seek our services if you don't appreciate or like it?

I hate microwave pizza.

I like Domino's/Pizza Hut/Papa John's/etc.
I just don't like using the delivery service.

One thing that really bugs me are kids who order pizzas because their parents are too lazy to feed them and I end up getting paid in stacks of quarters.

I never do that.

If we order pizza, it's because we want pizza and we pay with dollar bills, not coins (unless we were going for the exact price).

So no one is allowed to vent about aspects of there job now? You expect people to walk off the job the second they become frustrated with something?

Just don't make such a fuss about something that's not even required (tipping).
(Also, we have the Random Rants thread... )

Plus, the way you say it, you make it sound like you've been going through this for a while now, so why not a new job?

 

[FredLC]

No such code here. If a customer doesn't like how I handle change then they are free to take their money back and I'll leave with their food (to eat later). Free market eh?

We don't work a register and we aren't expected to act like we do. We drivers have some leeway in how we deal with change.

Sorry, Bug, my man. Providing tasty pizza is a matter of free market; getting your math straight isn't.

Regards .

 

[FredLC]

It is in some places and others its not. Generally the customer decides how much the tip is worth. Thats why there Tip portions on visa slips. Trust me, tips are expected. Pizza Hut's employment advertising says you earn up to $15 an hour. Thats virtually all tips. Trust me. Its expected that you give a tip.

And why are the costumers bound by a promisse made by the employer, not by them? If they have tricked you into an expectative of profit that ins't met, your beef is with them. Costumers have nothing to do with that.

Regards .

 

[Whomp]

The bottom line is in North America and Mexico tipping goes with the entire "dining/delivery experience"...if you have a problem with it, stay home and make some Hamburger Helper. Seriously giving change as a tip is a complete embarrassment and you'd be ostercized in my circles.

Yes, it might be great if bartenders/waiters/busboys/pizza delivery guys were paid as much as, say, an accountant but they're not because it makes no economic sense....here.

The reality is that delivery guy is in one of the most hazardous jobs in this country with cab drivers and policemen. Giving him $.02 is a freaking embarrassment.

You don't want to tip because the person wasn't going the "extra mile"? You obviously didn't see him/her cleaning puke out of the bathroom stall or have someone break the window to their car so they could grab cash or steal a pizza.

Having bartended please, please, please don't order a foo foo drink if you're not going to tip. Making a pina colada/mojito/caipirinha takes a fair amount of work and disrupts the continuity in a busy bar/restaurant. Order a beer if you're not going to tip.

El J wherever you are thank goodness for guys like you.

 

[FredLC]

Well, I order beers (don't drink any other alcooholic beverage), and I still tip. Don't mistake my acknowledgement that sympathy ain't required with the idea that I personally still ain't sympatethic.

Still, IMHO, the REAL botton line is: by tipping being "optional", a delivery guy that does not take it is powerless to do anything against a "cheap" costumer, and because of that, it will keep happening. I wish you suceed in raising conscienciousness of people to appreciate the difficulty your work: but until it happens, you are in the loosing end of the discussion.

Regards .

 

[The Yankee]

The reality is that delivery guy is in one of the most hazardous jobs in this country with cab drivers and policemen. Giving him $.02 is a freaking embarrassment.

You don't want to tip because the person wasn't going the "extra mile"? You obviously didn't see him/her cleaning puke out of the bathroom stall or have someone break the window to their car so they could grab cash or steal a pizza.

Having bartended please, please, please don't order a foo foo drink if you're not going to tip. Making a pina colada/mojito/caipirinha takes a fair amount of work and disrupts the continuity in a busy bar/restaurant. Order a beer if you're not going to tip.

El J wherever you are thank goodness for guys like you.

Whomp speaks truth. Probably even more so for late-night deliveries as well as those in dense cities/business districts whether they're in a vehicle or by foot.

 

[BasketCase]

BasketCase - What's you job?

Tech support. I watchdog the techs, make sure they get to the customer on time, and make sure they get stuff fixed on time.

I never get yelled at when stuff goes wrong--because it's my job to do the yelling. Or to notify my manager so he can pitch in.

So basically, I get paid to snitch on you guys when you don't do your work.

 

[Rik Meleet]

The bottom line is in North America and Mexico tipping goes with the entire "dining/delivery experience"...if you have a problem with it, stay home and make some Hamburger Helper. Seriously giving change as a tip is a complete embarrassment and you'd be ostercized in my circles.

Yes, it might be great if bartenders/waiters/busboys/pizza delivery guys were paid as much as, say, an accountant but they're not because it makes no economic sense....here.

Getting paid properly (or let's say minimum wage) makes no economic sense ??? To me that sounds like an attempt to justify an inherent incorrect situation.

The reality is that delivery guy is in one of the most hazardous jobs in this country with cab drivers and policemen. Giving him $.02 is a freaking embarrassment.

You don't want to tip because the person wasn't going the "extra mile"? You obviously didn't see him/her cleaning puke out of the bathroom stall or have someone break the window to their car so they could grab cash or steal a pizza.

Then paying him "hazard money" is what the employer should do instead of underpaying him.

Having bartended please, please, please don't order a foo foo drink if you're not going to tip. Making a pina colada/mojito/caipirinha takes a fair amount of work and disrupts the continuity in a busy bar/restaurant. Order a beer if you're not going to tip.

El J wherever you are thank goodness for guys like you.

If preparing a pina colado, mojito or caipirinha takes the bartender a lot more time than preparing a beer, then the cost of the labour should be included in the price for the drink. For example:
Beer: Ingredients + tax + profit + fixed cost = $1. Labour = $0,20. Price = $1,50.
foo foo: Ingredients + tax + profit + fixed cost = $3. Labour = $3. Price = $7,50.

What is so freaking wrong with charging for what the product or servie is costing instead of making it vague with hidden cost that you'd need to be an insider to even realise they exist and an expert to avoid embarrssment, labels and bad service ?

 

[Whomp]

Getting paid properly (or let's say minimum wage) makes no economic sense ??? To me that sounds like an attempt to justify an inherent incorrect situation.

The restaurant industry is amongst the lowest labor yield industries around. If the choice is less restaurants in exchange for higher wages then I'll take the more restaurants and tipping as part of the process any day of the week. In fact, I'll be overtipping some bartenders today in Wrigleyville so they make sure they keep 'em coming versus the cheapskate who'll be underserved. btw Barbslinger will be in town for the game today too so we'll probably meet up later.

Then paying him "hazard money" is what the employer should do instead of underpaying him.

Or the alternative which is simply don't deliver or hire out a delivery service (becoming quite popular here) which would be more cost effective than raising wages.

If preparing a pina colado, mojito or caipirinha takes the bartender a lot more time than preparing a beer, then the cost of the labour should be included in the price for the drink. For example:
Beer: Ingredients + tax + profit + fixed cost = $1. Labour = $0,20. Price = $1,50.
foo foo: Ingredients + tax + profit + fixed cost = $3. Labour = $3. Price = $7,50.

What is so freaking wrong with charging for what the product or servie is costing instead of making it vague with hidden cost that you'd need to be an insider to even realise they exist and an expert to avoid embarrssment, labels and bad service ?

It's our custom, mkay? It's not vague it's well understood and a simple contract between server and customer. Period and end of discussion. I promise not to tip anyone when I'm in Holland, k?

With that I'm off to tip a bunch of people for overserving me today. Have a nice day everyone.

 

[psweetman1590]

What is so freaking wrong with charging for what the product or servie is costing instead of making it vague with hidden cost that you'd need to be an insider to even realise they exist and an expert to avoid embarrssment, labels and bad service ?

What many of you foreigners aren't getting is that it's NOT a "hidden cost". Here in America, it is expected. Everyone knows this, even if they do not approve of it, so it is by no means "hidden". It is by no means cheating the customer. It is an omnipresent fact that these people are supposed to pay tips.