TM 01 - The alphabet games - America

[MailMan]

Turn 218 (1540 AD)
MailMan: Canterbury is sitting without ANY units near the English border. send a long bow there
MailMan: hire a artist in London to fight back the culture pressure
MailMan: we still has many obsolete units I may disband some of them soon.
MailMan: move stack by Philly to be on a road to attack Basra next turn
Seattle begins: Theater
MailMan: change Seattle to produce theater
MailMan: use the prophet to get PP 4 turns sooner
MailMan: Saladin is up to gunpowder. if he still do not have muskets next turn, I will attack
MailMan: trade banking + 150g from mansa for divine right

Turn 219 (1545 AD)
Catapult promoted: Accuracy
Maceman loses to: Arabian Longbowman (4.86/6)
Maceman loses to: Arabian Longbowman (0.30/6)
Crossbowman defeats (3.60/6): Arabian Pikeman
Pikeman defeats (6.00/6): Arabian Longbowman
Confucianism has spread: Najran (Arabian Empire)
Confucianism has spread: Najran
Captured Najran (Saladin)
Maceman defeats (5.12/8): Arabian Longbowman
Maceman loses to: Arabian Longbowman (2.94/6)
Maceman loses to: Arabian Longbowman (3.12/6)
Maceman loses to: Arabian Longbowman (0.66/6)
MailMan: the last one was lost in 88%
Maceman promoted: City Raider I
Maceman defeats (3.44/8): Arabian Longbowman
Maceman defeats (5.76/8): Arabian Pikeman
Knight defeats (10.00/10): Arabian Longbowman
Confucianism has spread: Basra (Arabian Empire)
Confucianism has spread: Basra
Captured Basra (Saladin)
New York finishes: University
Philadelphia finishes: Maceman
Seattle finishes: Theatre

We capture 2 of Saladin's cities that was near us.

Turn 220 (1550 AD)
Philadelphia begins: Maceman
Seattle begins: Knight
Crossbowman promoted: Drill IV
Longbowman promoted: City Garrison I
Maceman promoted: City Raider II
New York begins: Maceman
Boston finishes: Longbowman
Philadelphia grows: 11
Philadelphia finishes: Maceman
Chicago grows: 7
Chicago finishes: University
Texcoco finishes: Granary

Turn 221 (1555 AD)
Research begun: Military Tradition
Boston begins: Knight
Philadelphia begins: Knight
Texcoco begins: Theatre
Confucianism has spread: Texcoco
Catapult promoted: City Raider I
Catapult loses to: Arabian Longbowman (5.28/6)
Catapult loses to: Arabian Longbowman (4.56/6)
Maceman loses to: Arabian Longbowman (3.60/6)
Knight promoted: Combat I
Knight loses to: Arabian Longbowman (0.36/6)
Knight promoted: Combat I
Knight defeats (10.00/10): Arabian Crossbowman
Maceman defeats (8.00/8): Arabian Longbowman
Taoism has spread: Khurasan
Captured Khurasan (Saladin)
Razed Khurasan
Taoism has spread: Khurasan
Khurasan lost
Pikeman promoted: Combat I
London's borders expand
London finishes: Versailles

Turn 222 (1560 AD)
London begins: Hermitage
Knight defeats (9.30/10): Arabian Catapult
Pikeman loses to: Arabian Camel Archer (4.00/10)
Pikeman defeats (1.68/6): Arabian Camel Archer
Knight promoted: Combat II
Knight defeats (10.00/10): Arabian Camel Archer
Knight promoted: Combat I
Knight defeats (7.40/10): Arabian Catapult
New York begins: Theatre
Research begun: Economics
MailMan: decided to go for economics since the war will be over until we get MT
Philadelphia finishes: Knight

game crashed, reloaded from autosave

Turn 223 (1565 AD)
Philadelphia begins: Pikeman
Knight promoted: Pinch
Knight promoted: Combat I
Knight promoted: Combat I
Knight promoted: Combat II
Knight defeats (2.40/10): Arabian Camel Archer
Pikeman promoted: Medic I
Knight promoted: Combat II
Boston finishes: Knight
Atlanta grows: 10
Seattle finishes: Knight
Canterbury finishes: Library
Longbowman loses to: Arabian Camel Archer (0.50/10)

Turn 224 (1570 AD)
Boston begins: Longbowman
Seattle begins: Catapult
Basra begins: Theatre
Najran begins: Theatre
Canterbury begins: Theatre
Knight defeats (8.70/10): Arabian Camel Archer
Washington grows: 10
Washington's borders expand
St. Patrick (Prophet) (Great Prophet) born in Washington
New York finishes: Theatre
Boston finishes: Longbowman
Philadelphia finishes: Pikeman
Seattle grows: 9
Seattle finishes: Catapult
Texcoco grows: 4

Turn 225 (1575 AD)
Boston begins: Knight
Philadelphia begins: Pikeman
Seattle begins: Pikeman
Catapult promoted: Barrage I
Catapult loses to: Arabian Musketman (7.92/9)
Catapult promoted: Barrage I
Catapult loses to: Arabian Musketman (7.92/9)
Catapult loses to: Arabian Musketman (6.84/9)
Knight defeats (8.10/10): Arabian Musketman
Knight promoted: Combat II
Knight defeats (3.20/10): Arabian Maceman
Knight defeats (8.30/10): Arabian Camel Archer
Knight defeats (5.20/10): Arabian Longbowman
Knight defeats (7.10/10): Arabian Longbowman
Judaism has spread: Damascus
Captured Damascus (Saladin)
Razed Damascus
Judaism has spread: Damascus
Damascus lost
Knight defeats (4.00/10): Arabian Camel Archer
Catapult promoted: Barrage I
Catapult promoted: Barrage II
Catapult loses to: Arabian Camel Archer (8.80/10)
Knight promoted: Combat I
Knight promoted: Combat II
Knight defeats (2.80/10): Arabian Camel Archer
Maceman defeats (8.00/8): Arabian Horse Archer
Maceman defeats (6.88/8): Arabian Catapult
MailMan: I joined the great prophet in new york (gold city)
Philadelphia finishes: Pikeman
Atlanta finishes: University
London grows: 9
Najran's borders expand

Turn 226 (1580 AD)
Philadelphia begins: Pikeman
Atlanta begins: Theatre
Longbowman promoted: City Garrison I
Longbowman promoted: City Garrison II
Maceman promoted: Combat III
New York finishes: Maceman
Philadelphia finishes: Pikeman
Canterbury grows: 7
Maceman loses to: Arabian Camel Archer (4.90/10)
Maceman defeats (5.92/8): Barbarian Longbowman

Turn 227 (1585 AD)
Philadelphia begins: Knight
Maceman defeats (1.92/8): Arabian Longbowman
Maceman promoted: City Raider I
Maceman promoted: City Raider II
Knight loses to: Arabian Maceman (5.84/8)
Maceman defeats (5.44/8): Arabian Maceman
Maceman defeats (6.48/8): Arabian Longbowman
Maceman promoted: City Raider I
Maceman defeats (6.56/8): Arabian Camel Archer
Maceman defeats (2.40/8): Arabian Catapult
Maceman defeats (2.40/8): Arabian Catapult
Taoism has spread: Medina
Captured Medina (Saladin)
Razed Medina
Taoism has spread: Medina
Medina lost
MailMan: sign peach with Saladin for 720g + 6gpt

Summery:
went to war with Saladin, took 2 cities and raze 3. There is a settler on the way to the cleared territory to claim some land.

Notes for next player:
- use the settler to found a city
- you may want to change civic since we are out of war
- we should be getting the Taj next turn
- we should be getting free merchant in 3 turns, I suggest joining him in NY.
- I used the obsolete units as MP to send heavier forces to the front. I suggest disbanding them now.
- lower culture rate!

 

[SpriteSODA]

Nice work, but you should've kept at least one more city...
The problem with the AI is that he will settler-spam and build tons of new cities=\

 

[namliaM]

To bad you got peace allready, guess I will have to get started on Vicky again...

Good I will have a GA set... Gots it... Playing...

 

[namliaM]

Turn 227 (1585 AD)
Philadelphia begins: Grocer
Philadelphia begins: Knight
Philadelphia begins: Grocer
Chicago begins: Islamic Temple
Texcoco begins: Confucian Monastery
Texcoco begins: Forge
Texcoco begins: Confucian Temple
Texcoco begins: Confucian Monastery
Canterbury begins: Forge
New York begins: Islamic Monastery
New York begins: Islamic Temple
New York begins: Bank
New York begins: Islamic Monastery
New York begins: Islamic Temple
Boston begins: Islamic Monastery
Boston begins: Islamic Temple
Boston begins: Market
Boston begins: Aqueduct
Washington begins: Islamic Monastery
Washington begins: Islamic Temple
Washington begins: Hindu Monastery
Washington begins: Confucian Temple
Washington begins: Confucian Monastery
Washington begins: Aqueduct
New York begins: Courthouse
New York begins: Islamic Temple
New York begins: Bank
New York begins: Islamic Monastery
Najran begins: Settler
Najran begins: Aqueduct
Najran begins: Granary
namliaM: Sell Corn for 5gpt to Monty
Golden Age begins
Washington finishes: The Taj Mahal
New York grows: 14
New York finishes: Courthouse
Boston finishes: Knight
Chicago finishes: Islamic Monastery
Seattle finishes: Pikeman
Texcoco finishes: Theatre

As you can see, I am doing a lot of considiring here, but as I realize after finishing the Taj... I forgot to swap civics to OR for the 25% building bonus....

Turn 228 (1590 AD)
Seattle begins: Aqueduct
Seattle begins: Confucian Temple
Seattle begins: Confucian Monastery
Seattle begins: Grocer
Seattle begins: Library
Knight promoted: Combat I
Knight promoted: Combat II
Washington finishes: Islamic Monastery
Philadelphia finishes: Knight
Canterbury's borders expand
Basra's borders expand
Basra finishes: Theatre

Turn 229 (1595 AD)
Basra begins: Confucian Temple
Basra begins: Confucian Monastery
Basra begins: Library
Basra begins: Aqueduct
Basra begins: Barracks
Philadelphia begins: Knight
Philadelphia begins: Knight
Philadelphia begins: Knight
Knight promoted: Combat I
Knight promoted: Combat II
San Francisco founded
San Francisco begins: Courthouse
Atlanta begins: Confucian Monastery
London begins: Library
London begins: Hindu Monastery
London begins: Hindu Temple
Harkuf (Great Merchant) born in Washington
Boston finishes: Islamic Monastery
Philadelphia grows: 12
Atlanta finishes: Theatre
Chicago grows: 8
Seattle's borders expand

Turn 230 (1600 AD)
Research begun: Military Tradition
Research begun: Gunpowder
Washington finishes: Islamic Temple
New York finishes: Islamic Temple
Seattle grows: 10
Seattle finishes: Aqueduct
Canterbury finishes: Theatre
London finishes: Hermitage
Texcoco grows: 5

Turn 231 (1605 AD)
Chicago begins: Islamic Missionary<== Spread the faith...
Washington grows: 11
Washington finishes: Hindu Monastery
Boston finishes: Islamic Temple
Atlanta grows: 11
London grows: 10
Basra finishes: Confucian Temple
Confucianism has spread: Nanjing (Chinese Empire)

Turn 232 (1610 AD)
Philadelphia begins: Knight
Philadelphia finishes: Grocer
Atlanta finishes: Confucian Monastery
Najran finishes: Settler

Turn 233 (1615 AD)
Atlanta begins: Market
Atlanta begins: Colosseum
Atlanta begins: Aqueduct
Atlanta begins: Confucian Temple
Canterbury begins: Aqueduct
Canterbury begins: Confucian Temple
Canterbury begins: Hindu Temple
Canterbury begins: Hindu Monastery
Canterbury begins: Confucian Monastery
Washington begins: Islamic Missionary
Washington begins: Confucian Temple
New York begins: Islamic Mosque
Washington finishes: Islamic Missionary
Philadelphia finishes: Knight
Seattle finishes: Confucian Temple
Basra finishes: Confucian Monastery

Turn 234 (1620 AD)
Islam has spread: Atlanta
Knight promoted: Combat I
Knight promoted: Combat II
Knight promoted: Combat I
Knight promoted: Flanking I
Chicago finishes: Islamic Temple
London finishes: Library
Najran finishes: Theatre

Turn 235 (1625 AD)
I had been waiting around here for a while, when finaly


The AI came up short enough for me to step in

Knight defeats (6.30/10): Barbarian Longbowman
Captured Ligurian (Barbarian)
Razed Ligurian
Ligurian lost

I really cannot believe I didnt switch to OR... Damn that could have really made a big difference during my peacefull GA.... But I didnt want to waste a turn in anarchy during the GA either....

I planted the new city and used the GA to research MT.

I was a bit overdoing it with planning builds, appearently they dont go quite as fast as I wanted/hoped them to.... So there are a few (read: a lot) of planned buildings in cities. Hope you dont mind. They offcourse can be changed....

Goals next:
Finish off vicky? After upgrading some Knights to Cavs and maybe build one or two cavs more?

The Save

 

[rddc05]

Before I play my turns, I would like to discuss victory conditions. I am leaning toward domination, but that would mean we need to focus on finishng Saladin before he gets rifles. The other option is space race, I believe.

What does everyone think?

 

[MailMan]

Space would be the easiest, conquest would be the most enjoyable.
I vote for conquest.

Conquest means that we should stop researching at some point and just buy/upgrade troops and capture good cities and raze the rest.
I think that we are far ahead of most AIs to do that easily.

I suggest taking out england in any victory condition in the next turn set, after that we should take on the big dogs: Saladin, Mansa and Monti and than mope all the rest

 

[namliaM]

Domination would have my vote... We have to keep a slight balance on Economy and military. Its a bit harder than Conquest, just as doable and more fullfilling I think.

We have versailles allready in London, so we have low costs for previous england, if we can get the FP somewhere middle of the map would be nice.

 

[rddc05]

Sorry, I still haven't installed the auto-logger. Here is a quick rundown of the set:

Hastings turned out to be a tough nut to crack. Had to bombard it down to zero to keep from losing too many units. Nottingham will be similarly difficult, as it is built on a hill with lots of City 2 longbows. Newcastle was easily taken. Recommend taking Oxford and Coventry next, saving Nottingham for last. We will need more cats.

Finished Gunpowder, then Chemistry. Started on Constitution with the idea that Representation would help us, but I'm not sure that Steel wouldn't be better at this point, as cannons will go a long way toward domination/conquest. Also had in mind getting SoL.

There is a Great Scientist (finally!) in Washington, not sure where we want our science city to be so I left him. We should decide soon and get the Academy/Oxford built there. Canterbury isn't a bad candidate, as it has some forests left to chop for Oxford. Atlanta's cottages are a bit more developed however.

I did not change any civics, although we might want to discuss the possibilities there. Main problem wit switching to Rep. right now will probably be happiness, but that can be managed.

There is a settler south of Newcastly (shown in screenie) and one in London, just in case we want to raze/settle instead of install new governor. That's about it, here are screens and save:

 

[namliaM]

Taking Hastings has really taken the presure of londen Taking hasting as alse freed up the farmed grass lands for the other previous English town.... Good good good.

Nice going rddc...


Lets keep focussed, Domination I think still is the goal. So get some military techs....
- Burglar => Skipped, but on deck.
- Mailman
- namliaM
- rddc05 => Done his thing to Vicky
- SkunkDoctor => Out of action till Comp is fixed
- SpriteSoda => Up

 

[SpriteSODA]

oh cool its my turn=] will post today.

 

[SpriteSODA]

Well here we go:

0: Moving stuff and press Enter.
1: Culture at 10%. We are at war and almost no city creates army... that im going to remedy.
2: Mansa wants us to cancel deals with Julious... hahahaha. DC Bank->Carvalry.
3: Boston Carvalry->Carvalry. Barsa rax->cat. New york granade->carvalry.
4: Seatle Granade->Carvalry.
5: Constitiution->Steel, didnt revolt.
6: Augustine declares that we are the largest culture producers:

7: Cantenbury Univer.->rax.
8: Boston Carvalry->Carvalry. Conquered Convetry.
9: DC Carvalry->Courthouse. Seattle Carvalry->Carvalry.
10: Conquered Nothingham with a few losses.

In conclusion Viccy got only 1 last city which is going down next turn.
We have a great scientist at DC.

The Save:

 

[namliaM]

Wow thats fast... a bit sparce on the log... but fast... and focussed, build us some cavs... and nearly eliminated the English.

- Burglar => Up allready, to finish Vicky
- Mailman => On Deck
- namliaM
- rddc05
- SkunkDoctor => Out of action till Comp is fixed
- SpriteSoda => Went to work on Vicky

 

[MailMan]

Sound like we need some military and than take on Saladin again, this time finishing him off and take most of his cities

 

[SpriteSODA]

I dont know. we are not using Orginized religion, so i would advise to convert to Taoisim, so we will be friends with Julius and Saladin, and take out Monty, who is furious and may attack anytime.

 

[rddc05]

Nice going Sprite.

Couple of items for the next player:

We can trade pigs or wine to Mansa for Silver. This is a good deal, as we are running into happiness problems at the moment and silver is +2 happy with our forges.

We need to decide on a science city, as our GS is going to waste. I think we should build an academy wherever Oxford U. will go, and we need one more University to build Oxford U. Let's decide before the next turnset which city it will be.

We have a lot of veteran maces that can be upgraded to Grenadiers for only 110 gold. Especially the City Raider maces, as this is an upgrade that Grenadiers don't normally get.

So, Vicky just about gone...who is next? I vote for Sal.

 

[MailMan]

Since Burglar is nowhere to be seen at to moment and I have time to play now, I got it.
If Burglar shows up, he can be after me.

 

[namliaM]

Good one Mailman, Lets keep it moving...

 

[SpriteSODA]

Just to pass the time, i'll tell you briefly about a game that i played with my friend. we are a team, Russia and China, and we knew all game that the victory must be by diplomatic. We conquered Cyrus at the classical times, and then at the Cossacks time we sent a huge army to the other continent and conquered Viccy before she managed to create annoying Red Coats. then we were sure we'll win, but our close friend Gandi betrayed and voted for Roosvelt. Because of that we decided to conquer Saladin and get to nukes and nuke all of them till we will be the Many;]. But at the 4th vote, after I gave all of my resources to Gandi, he voted for us, and we won exactly on the requirement lol.

Prince level game.
I never won by the exact requierment. one less vote and we would have destroyed the world=P

 

[MailMan]

I could not play very long last night, so a brief summery of the first turns:
Capture the last English city on the given turn and start moving our forces west to tackle either Saladin or Monti.
Switch civics to grant extra 2xp and set cities to produce more military

Before I continue to play tonight a quick question, who shall I attack.
Saladin is bigger, more advanced and has almost the same power as us, while Monti is the opposite and will be easy to take down.

Please cast your vote.

 

[SpriteSODA]

I vote for Monty, but it seems that the many wants Saladin salad, so i guess you should attack him.