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I'm back in my homeland of England right now.
Troy
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I'm back in my homeland of England right now.
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ı presume this interwebs is some kind of trophy one gets for the most obviously-absurdly ridiculous post of the day . In this case , yeah , it should be mine ! We can have no issues with Troyans being a Greek colonial port city that had the customs of the Straits , or Hittites rued that they betted on the wrong horse . Empire Earth makes it certain that the Hellens originated from Anatolia anyhow and their Troy scenario is of course unwinnable if you play it straight . Bad call , considering ı could manage the Black Prince's siege without prophets and the like .
as for the Second war of Troy , well my thrust for the trophy surely lies in that direction. Now , there has already been a description of the war and the defending post has been written with great skill . Making my struggle definitely an uphill one . Take the Spitfire point just as a starter . For the British to be quickly "in an untenable position" because " Unidentified flying objects would have easily dealt with the Spitfires " , makes it an imperative that the Spits to be on the Ottoman side . Yeah , a simple sentence which would lead the average nerd to think about the relevant Doctor Who episode where ı hear there are Spits in space , takes me into a long winded anti-RAF Bomber Barons diatribe . Because we watch everything late in Turkey and didn't see it yet . Anyways you know , the Spit lost nearly one third of its fuel capacity when first offered , as long range would have meant escorted day raids . And yeah , the ease it remained at the top tier of fighters , so unlike the '109 , was because Mitchell and Smith stressed it accordingly . Against the prevalent RAF view that jets were just across the street , the Spitfire calculations were for 2000 hp+ , right from the start , at the cost of that complex wing that made each RAF fighter equivalent of 3 Bf-109s in manufacturing manhours . And sure enough right in 1941 , some guy put enough fuel into a Spit and flew it to Danzig in photoreconnaisance , only because he would have been so dead in a Blenheim . Great , really great , but one must stop playing mind games with the young Americans , if they are forewarned , how can one push them off a cliff ? Spit is 1920ish anyhow , Scheineders and all ... Or it might be something else we are not aware of yet . Probably originating from Japan . Are debating allocating online time to research why Tenjin Hidetaka has this single Spitfire in all those drawings in Art Works of Macross- Valkyries. Matricoled ZP-A it looks a Mk.IIA to me due to its Coffman cartridge starter bulges and the 8 wing guns .
and obviously there are other contenders as well . Take the Troy becomes England thing . Sure , sure. Right as the young British officer reached the top of the deadly strategic hill in real life in 1915 , and saw the entire Straits under his feet , maybe even seeing the coastline where Troy was supposed to be and turned around with exciment in his blood and a cry of victory in his lungs to look at his troops , he saw his favourite Gurkha actually hit by an 12'' shell , before it exploded and stopped the British assault dead cold . Typical blue on bleu . Smoking gun was easy to see too , as RN was firing support and they had lost contact with the land troops . Otherwise it would have been a most incredible unbelieveable nonsense on why the German fire control was claiming everything was under control yet we could identify the Brits on the hill with binoculars and ours would have to be a fresh new , kinda Japanese or Yankee 14... ( 12 to 11 would have meant RN would have reached it on March 18th.) Yeaaah righhht ...
will shortly become academic anyhow . On cue , the neo-Ittihadists have begun harping generals are not necessary to Turkey , considering China is reported to have 191 generals for their 2,2 million men in contrast to 300+ we have for 650 000 or so . And just naturally , the politicians said it was not generals that won Çanakkale , it was the nation , the people . Why not , even Atatürk started as a Lieutenant Colonel commanding a division and it was in the East '16 when he became a Pasha . Our divisions were divisions only in name. Come back 5 years later and we will hear how God intervened on our behalf and made the Brits not to land in Bolayır . As if the dictator of 1923-38 could not have altered the Turkish textbooks to read how he had told von Sanders of the exact landing spot and that is why the German preffered that site .
and people , please give Zheng He a break . Here we see him planning his voyages in a Trojan fishing ship altered to look like Oriental , to ease the suspicions of the minions of the Chinese emperor about his true mission of starting the Renassaince and all the stuff that followed . Seein' is believin' , right ?
as for the Second war of Troy , well my thrust for the trophy surely lies in that direction. Now , there has already been a description of the war and the defending post has been written with great skill . Making my struggle definitely an uphill one . Take the Spitfire point just as a starter . For the British to be quickly "in an untenable position" because " Unidentified flying objects would have easily dealt with the Spitfires " , makes it an imperative that the Spits to be on the Ottoman side . Yeah , a simple sentence which would lead the average nerd to think about the relevant Doctor Who episode where ı hear there are Spits in space , takes me into a long winded anti-RAF Bomber Barons diatribe . Because we watch everything late in Turkey and didn't see it yet . Anyways you know , the Spit lost nearly one third of its fuel capacity when first offered , as long range would have meant escorted day raids . And yeah , the ease it remained at the top tier of fighters , so unlike the '109 , was because Mitchell and Smith stressed it accordingly . Against the prevalent RAF view that jets were just across the street , the Spitfire calculations were for 2000 hp+ , right from the start , at the cost of that complex wing that made each RAF fighter equivalent of 3 Bf-109s in manufacturing manhours . And sure enough right in 1941 , some guy put enough fuel into a Spit and flew it to Danzig in photoreconnaisance , only because he would have been so dead in a Blenheim . Great , really great , but one must stop playing mind games with the young Americans , if they are forewarned , how can one push them off a cliff ? Spit is 1920ish anyhow , Scheineders and all ... Or it might be something else we are not aware of yet . Probably originating from Japan . Are debating allocating online time to research why Tenjin Hidetaka has this single Spitfire in all those drawings in Art Works of Macross- Valkyries. Matricoled ZP-A it looks a Mk.IIA to me due to its Coffman cartridge starter bulges and the 8 wing guns .
and obviously there are other contenders as well . Take the Troy becomes England thing . Sure , sure. Right as the young British officer reached the top of the deadly strategic hill in real life in 1915 , and saw the entire Straits under his feet , maybe even seeing the coastline where Troy was supposed to be and turned around with exciment in his blood and a cry of victory in his lungs to look at his troops , he saw his favourite Gurkha actually hit by an 12'' shell , before it exploded and stopped the British assault dead cold . Typical blue on bleu . Smoking gun was easy to see too , as RN was firing support and they had lost contact with the land troops . Otherwise it would have been a most incredible unbelieveable nonsense on why the German fire control was claiming everything was under control yet we could identify the Brits on the hill with binoculars and ours would have to be a fresh new , kinda Japanese or Yankee 14... ( 12 to 11 would have meant RN would have reached it on March 18th.) Yeaaah righhht ...
will shortly become academic anyhow . On cue , the neo-Ittihadists have begun harping generals are not necessary to Turkey , considering China is reported to have 191 generals for their 2,2 million men in contrast to 300+ we have for 650 000 or so . And just naturally , the politicians said it was not generals that won Çanakkale , it was the nation , the people . Why not , even Atatürk started as a Lieutenant Colonel commanding a division and it was in the East '16 when he became a Pasha . Our divisions were divisions only in name. Come back 5 years later and we will hear how God intervened on our behalf and made the Brits not to land in Bolayır . As if the dictator of 1923-38 could not have altered the Turkish textbooks to read how he had told von Sanders of the exact landing spot and that is why the German preffered that site .
and people , please give Zheng He a break . Here we see him planning his voyages in a Trojan fishing ship altered to look like Oriental , to ease the suspicions of the minions of the Chinese emperor about his true mission of starting the Renassaince and all the stuff that followed . Seein' is believin' , right ?
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