Turkish Earthquake

Best wishes to all affected by this disaster.

Glad to see that the EU and its member states are stepping up aid for Turkish efforts to save and assist people, despite Turkey not being a member state. A thought for Erdogan to ponder on; perhaps the Swedes aren't the worst people on Earth after all and deserving of your personal scorn, huh?
 
look , there is a specific reason why ı said my comments would be elsewhere . By being anti-Western , ı might have caused people to tell me to drown in my own sh.t after reading the standart r16 garbage . MIGHT have made them refuse to donate , you know , even if ı will be the first to wager that no more than 10 cents on the dollar or Euro would eventually reach people in actual need .

it needs to be a sticker or something about how politics was being conducted in the Middle East when Neanderthals ruled Europe .

so , just for this one allow me to say that the reason for the Polish military rescue team being the single foreign entity publicized or whatever is a series of posts in CFC . To trap some guy in negativity .

yes , over my dead body with regards to Swedish and Finnish membership in NATO .

and Esad is not begging the West . The EU has already forced Ankara to accept more Syrian refugees because shots have been fired on some . Nobody yet knows if casualties were incurred on American troops escorting seperatists in Syria to take advantage . America is actually sending an aircraft carrier to attack Iranian "terrorists masquerading as rescue teams and convoys" . ı imagine Israel has decided to step down the interdiction of Iranians a little for the duration ... lf there are issues in understanding this , the Iranians are quite good in earthquake stuff .
 
Syria’s Assad has complained the West is stymying relief.

When did it become our obligation to bail him out? The U.S. did relax sanctions, and I have no objection to humanitarian aid to the people of Syria, but Assad should remember which side he picked.

The earthquake has largely hit Afrin which is I think entirely in rebel held territory. Aid trucks are entering through Turkey. The Kurdish Red Crescent has accused the Syrian government of preventing aid trucks from passing through Syrian government territory to deliver aid to SDF held enclaves in Aleppo unless they hand over most of their aid. I’m not saying there aren’t any government held areas damaged but it’s the northwest that’s the most affected and mostly under the control of Turkish backed forces. That’s what I’ve gathered so far I could be wrong about some of it.
 

Turkish journalists detained over earthquake reports​

Freelance journalist Mir Ali Koçer was 200 miles from the epicentre when Turkey was struck by a deadly earthquake on 6 February. Grabbing his camera and microphone, he drove down to the affected region to interview survivors.
He shared stories of survivors and rescuers on Twitter and is now under investigation on suspicion of spreading "fake news" and could face up to three years in jail.
He is one of at least four journalists being investigated for reporting or commenting on the earthquake.
Press freedom groups say dozens more have been detained, harassed or prevented from reporting.

At least 50,000 people were killed when earthquakes hit both Turkey and Syria.
Turkey's authorities have not commented on the detentions.

'I couldn't hold back my tears'​

On the night of the earthquake, Mr Koçer - who is Kurdish and contributes to pro-opposition news sites such as Bianet and Duvar - was smoking on his balcony in the south-eastern city of Diyarbakir, when his two dogs suddenly started barking.
He later remembered how they had barked just like that in 2020, seconds before a smaller earthquake hit eastern Turkey.
"I felt I was shaking. I felt the house shaking, I felt the TV shaking," says Mr Koçer. He hid under a dinner table with the dogs and then rushed outside.
Mr Koçer left Diyarbakir and drove to the city of Gaziantep. He was shocked by scenes of destruction and victims enduing freezing temperatures in towns near the very epicentre of the quake.
At least 3,000 of the earthquake's victims died in Gaziantep.
"When holding the microphone, behind the camera or in front of the camera, I could not hold back my tears," Mr Koçer recalls.

Mr Koçer was touched by the influx of volunteers and rescue teams coming from Western Turkey, and he shared their stories on Twitter. Some of the survivors told him they received no aid for days. Similar complaints were cited across pro-opposition media outlets.
Visiting the earthquake-affected areas, President Recep Tayyip Erdogan told the people he would rebuild their cities. But he also warned that those spreading "fake news" and "causing social chaos" would be prosecuted, calling them "provocateurs".
Mr Koçer says that while he was reporting from the region hit by the earthquake, Diyarbakir police left a note at his apartment, instructing him to visit the police station and give a statement.
At the station, he was told that he was being investigated under a recently introduced disinformation law. He said the police questioned him about his reporting from the earthquake epicentre and accused him of spreading false information.
Turkey's new law was adopted in October. It criminalised the public spreading of disinformation and gave the state much broader powers to control news sites and social media.
The Venice Commission, a legal watchdog of the Council of Europe, said the law would interfere with freedom of expression.

Opposition parties call it a "censorship law".

'They don't like criticism'​

Mr Koçer insists that he was meticulous in his work and interviewed all sides, from survivors to the police, the gendarmerie and rescue workers. "I did not share information without thorough research and analysis," he says.
Reporters Without Borders (RSF) called the investigation against Mr Koçer "absurd" and urged the authorities to drop it.
According to the Committee to Protect Journalists (CPJ), an advocacy group, at least three more journalists are facing criminal charges.
Merdan Yanardağ and Enver Aysever are prominent Istanbul-based political commentators with large social media followings. Both have criticised the government's rescue efforts. They're both under investigation along with Mehmet Güleş, who, like Mr Koçer, is based in Diyarbakir. He was detained on suspicion of "inciting hatred" for interviewing a volunteer critical of the government's rescue effort and later released, according to RSF.

The number of other journalists under investigation is unclear. On Tuesday, the police said they detained 134 people over "provocative posts" and arrested 25 of them, but their identities have not been disclosed. Some of those detained may well have been spreading falsehoods, including one that Afghan migrants had been scavenging in ruined neighbourhoods.
But critics say the clampdown has gone far beyond those spreading harmful disinformation.
"The government is trying to suppress information coming from the quake zone," says cyber rights expert Yaman Akdeniz who teaches at the Istanbul Bilgi University.
The arrests came after Turkey's presidential communications director warned against "lethal disinformation" jeopardising the rescue efforts. The directorate also rolled out a smartphone app called "Disinformation Reporting Service" encouraging people to report manipulative posts about the quake.
"Any time [Turkish] officials and the government are being criticised, they don't like it," says Arzu Geybulla, a journalist in Istanbul covering digital authoritarianism and censorship.
"But this time they are perhaps more vocal."
The BBC contacted Turkey's presidential directorate for communications asking about the journalists investigated and the calls by advocacy groups to drop investigations, but has had no response.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-64759377
 
will have break my thing once more . As it would be lost in the New Turkey thread .

crtl+F for scavenging . Google translates it into Turkish as "collecting garbage" . Rey in Disney's cancelled triology is a scavenger . It involves a hard life that might resort to violence over scraps of stuff to survive .

in the earthquake zone it was tacidly agreed that people had a right to take foodstuffs from supermarkets and shops in the first few days .

what that arrested guy was saying that he was on the verge of a nervous breakdown . He is a cook in some TV reality show , was cooking on location for people with nothing to eat . He said those Afghan refugees were going around and cutting off the hands of dead women to take the golden bracelets . He said he was among those who saw it happen . Has no footage -now that he wouldn't have survived long enough to talk about it . In case you have had no idea , the body swollens after death and you just can't remove stuff . Loses some value if it is destroyed in removal so hands are cut off for bracelets and fingers for rings .

now , my elder brother used to run the health department of the Municipality of the big city nearby and he went to a neighbouring province for 3 days in the 1999 earthquake . The work teams he left there before his return would report of rumours about people having arrived from the East . Supposedly to help , but cutting off hands all over the place . Until the Military set up a few night ambushes and people were summarily executed and bodies left in the rubble and processed as having died during the earthquake . While the BBC naturally wokes over negative claims and whatnot with regards to Afghan refugees , it is more of an ambush . Set up after reports of terrorists down in villages , which forced the Army of Petrol out of barracks before being recalled back (because the small unit commanders would then use their personal initiative to dig people out of rubble) . And after the first shootout that hurt important Syrians bad enough . So that it would simmer all the time , Syrians and "patrols" . While the Army of Petrol was forced to provide escorts for the Austrian Army rescue team . Before both Germany and Austria pulled back their teams , concerned about safety and whatnot .
 
will have break my thing once more . As it would be lost in the New Turkey thread .

crtl+F for scavenging . Google translates it into Turkish as "collecting garbage" . Rey in Disney's cancelled triology is a scavenger . It involves a hard life that might resort to violence over scraps of stuff to survive .

in the earthquake zone it was tacidly agreed that people had a right to take foodstuffs from supermarkets and shops in the first few days .

what that arrested guy was saying that he was on the verge of a nervous breakdown . He is a cook in some TV reality show , was cooking on location for people with nothing to eat . He said those Afghan refugees were going around and cutting off the hands of dead women to take the golden bracelets . He said he was among those who saw it happen . Has no footage -now that he wouldn't have survived long enough to talk about it . In case you have had no idea , the body swollens after death and you just can't remove stuff . Loses some value if it is destroyed in removal so hands are cut off for bracelets and fingers for rings .

now , my elder brother used to run the health department of the Municipality of the big city nearby and he went to a neighbouring province for 3 days in the 1999 earthquake . The work teams he left there before his return would report of rumours about people having arrived from the East . Supposedly to help , but cutting off hands all over the place . Until the Military set up a few night ambushes and people were summarily executed and bodies left in the rubble and processed as having died during the earthquake . While the BBC naturally wokes over negative claims and whatnot with regards to Afghan refugees , it is more of an ambush . Set up after reports of terrorists down in villages , which forced the Army of Petrol out of barracks before being recalled back (because the small unit commanders would then use their personal initiative to dig people out of rubble) . And after the first shootout that hurt important Syrians bad enough . So that it would simmer all the time , Syrians and "patrols" . While the Army of Petrol was forced to provide escorts for the Austrian Army rescue team . Before both Germany and Austria pulled back their teams , concerned about safety and whatnot .

Very disturbing. How long till your country collapses into all out civil war?
 
just before ı start the orbital bombardment of the US . Has worked to stop it so far , like a clockwork . Will need to be on some other thread for details .
 
My heart goes out to all the victims & their families. Yes, it is good to see international involvement in the relief efforts.
 
we do have a "miş'li geçmiş zaman" ... Like a past tense with a story sense . Like something happened but ı wasn't there and didn't see it but someone else did and ı was told that something happened . The context will tell you even this will not be the case and the person using the grammer rule rejects the someone else , the narrator .

as such the responsible minister , the cabinet secretary for urban development who is running to be the next mayor of Istanbul and claims to prepare the city for the next big one uses "miş" to say that 130 000 people have died on TV . Quickly corrected to that that's the total number who have died in total due to earthquakes during the Republic era . Despite many insisting that was the minimum for the thing now a year ago . Like one would ever believe A-K-P on anything .
 
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