Tweedles stand up to be counted.

[GhostWriter16]

It costs more to buy 2 16 ounce sodas than 1 32 ounce, so its really to collect more sales tax revenue.

As for encouraging the right choices, it depends how you define that. To tell me I can't buy one big container of soda is actually a restriction of my choice. Requiring the display of caloric content on items, on the other hand, does not do this. It informs my choice.

Honestly, this may sound heartless, but I don't care if other people have "Fragile decision making complexes." They have their brains and I have mine. We do not deserve to be treated like sheep because the government can apparently make better choices than we can ourselves.

I don't care about the Bloomberg law because you couldn't pay me enough money to live in New York City (And not for that reason, or for any political reason, but because I don't like the idea of living in an urban area and NYC is like the most urban area ever) but I think its an exceedingly stupid law.

I have the right to make any purchasing decisions I want. If I want to buy a two liter cup of soda, that's my choice. The reality is that left-wing economics logically lead to a restriction of such choices.

And in fact, saying I have to buy it in multiple cups is in fact a restriction of choice. What if it was 5 ounces instead of 16? If you wanted a "Large" helping of soda you could just buy 8 cups. No restriction?

The reality is you don't think its necessary to drink that much soda and so you are OK with limiting other people's ability to do so because it supposedly saves you money. Why not remove government subsidies instead?

 

[Abegweit]

Man, I've been away too long. What happened to this thread? Isn't the topic Tweedles? It's right in the title.

Can anyone tell me the difference between them?

 

[Ajidica]

Man, I've been away too long. What happened to this thread? Isn't the topic Tweedles? It's right in the title.

Can anyone tell me the difference between them?

One is named O'Bama and the other is named Rmoney.

 

[Old Hippy]

Man, I've been away too long. What happened to this thread? Isn't the topic Tweedles? It's right in the title.

Can anyone tell me the difference between them?

they both think the other person's idea of government is bonkers... so only one of them is wrong

 

[Joecoolyo]

How the hell did Dommy manage to hijack a Crazy Abe thread?

Do his posts contain like pheromones or something that automatically causes like 6 posters to debate every single line?

 

[Abegweit]

they both think the other person's idea of government is bonkers... so only one of them is wrong

Yeah. This is a strange thing about Tweedles. They actually think there is a difference between dums and dees.

Edit: On reflection, I don't think this is true. They know they are the same; they just want to hide this from you.

 

[Old Hippy]

Yeah. This is a strange thing about Tweedles. They actually think there is a difference between dums and dees.

Edit: On reflection, I don't think this is true. They know they are the same; they just want to hide this from you.

Don't want to hide it from you....

Government in my country does some wonderfull things

go.... statists statists statists... oi oi oi

 

[Abegweit]

Don't want to hide it from you....

Government in my country does some wonderfull things

Like what?

go.... statists statists statists... oi oi oi

Oh my freekin' Gawd. I had no idea that someone could go there. Generally statists hate being exposed for what they but, as I understand your posts, you actually embrace theft and coercion. Kudos on being the a-hole of the entire human race. That's a unique experience.

 

[History_Buff]

I guess what defnes "Drunk" needs a defining as well. In America its not even drunkenness unless its at .08.

I'd actually agree prison is a bad choice for a first offense after thinking about it. First time you should lose your license for several years, second time lose your license for life, and if you manage to do it a third time, you should go to prison for life. If someone is harmed, those first two can be raised some.

One guy I saw on the news managed to get 6 months even though he crippled someone and it was his third time. I thought "Life sentence" was almost clear cut there, but apparently not..

Oh yeah, the definition in our criminal code is .08 too. Some of our provinces have just introduced non-criminal sanctions for those above .05, but those haven't been challenged in court, and are of dubious legality.

Prison is a terrible idea for most first offenses, unless it's really grievous. Especially here in North America, it tends to ruin lives, due to the poor conditions and social stigmas. It's a bad approach to take unless you really have to. Simultaneously however, suspending somebodies license for years at a time, while probably the correct move, seems like a cruel thing to do with the way our cities are built. It's a tough scenario.

As for your repeat offenders, yeah, it sucks to see guys get stuff like that. I personally knew a guy, who's said by his judge to have committed the most serious case of sexual assault (many a minor involved) in the history of Alberta, and all he got hit with was 10 years. And most of those were for extortion charges. The legal system is a very funny thing. Yet over-reacting to minor offenses in a courthouse isn't the way to approach the problem. There needs to be a combination of better infrastructure, and serious cultural change if we want to do anything about it. We've come a very long ways from even our parents generation.

It costs more to buy 2 16 ounce sodas than 1 32 ounce, so its really to collect more sales tax revenue.

You really think that? That's kind of nuts.

Don't want to hide it from you....
Government in my country does some wonderfull things

Like what?

You know, enforcing laws, regulating the economy, providing affordable health and car insurance, subsidizing emerging industries, conducting all sorts of research, policing the borders, protecting the environment, funding native communities, the list goes on and on. It doesn't necessarily do a good job, and the current government is trying to reign a lot of that in, but I'm pretty darn happy it happens.

Oh my freekin' Gawd. I had no idea that someone could go there. Generally statists hate being exposed for what they but, as I understand your posts, you actually embrace theft and coercion. Kudos on being the a-hole of the entire human race. That's a unique experience.

You got us all wrong man. We hate when you call us Statists because it's just a pointless term. We'll all readily admit we like the government.

 

[Old Hippy]

Like what?

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balances the budget and has universal health care, looks after old people, lets you grow dope... teaches in schools that libertarian principles are one of the pillars of a civil society ...