Are you reading my posts? I am comparing British '70s - '80s cars to French and Italian '70s - '80s cars. All were pretty similarly rubbish, but we voted for Maggie and they went to the wall. The French and Italians did not and they did not.
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French and Italians had luxury models and thise citreons that don't die. People wanted to buy them.
I also suspect government subsidies. Outside of a Bently if you're throwing big money at a car get French/German/Italian. Or a citreon. Upper middle class Audi or BMW.
UK had mono industry towns that were doomed regardless. Similar thing to USA, USSR.
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Where's Boris when you need him?
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Sorry to see Jacob Rees-Mogg lost his seat. He was by far the most entertaining MP to watch.
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Not for those of us who had to live in a counrty where he had influence he wasn't....
Biggest-ever gap between number of votes and MPs hits Reform and Greens
The gap between the share of total votes won by the winning party in the 2024 general election and the share of Parliamentary seats won is the largest on record, BBC Verify has found.
Reform’s roughly four million votes translates into a 14% share of the total votes cast in the election, but only 1% of all the seats in the House of Commons.
By contrast, Labour won 34% of total votes cast, but about 64% of the 650 seats.
The Green Party also had a considerably larger vote share than seat share, with 7% of the total vote but, like Reform, about 1% of total seats, or four MPs.
In the 2015 general election, the Scottish National Party took half of the votes and 95% of the seats in Scotland - a gap of 45 points between the vote and seat share.
The highest gap recorded in Wales was in the 2001 general election when Labour won just under half of the votes and 85% of Welsh seats in Westminster.
The gap between the share of total votes won by the winning party in the 2024 general election and the share of Parliamentary seats won is the largest on record, BBC Verify has found.
Reform’s roughly four million votes translates into a 14% share of the total votes cast in the election, but only 1% of all the seats in the House of Commons.
By contrast, Labour won 34% of total votes cast, but about 64% of the 650 seats.
The Green Party also had a considerably larger vote share than seat share, with 7% of the total vote but, like Reform, about 1% of total seats, or four MPs.
In the 2015 general election, the Scottish National Party took half of the votes and 95% of the seats in Scotland - a gap of 45 points between the vote and seat share.
The highest gap recorded in Wales was in the 2001 general election when Labour won just under half of the votes and 85% of Welsh seats in Westminster.
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I expect you have a better idea than most about the dynamics there. It seems to me that it will either go right to counter Reform, so Kemi Badenoch would be the prime choice, or the right goes TO reform and leaves them with the "one nation" tories if that is the right phrase. Then it kind of has to be Tom Tugendhat. However I cannot see that happening in the short term. 40/1 on Dave leading it from the Lords!
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According to Danish news, insiders claim to know via sources in Downing Street 10, that Starmer has scrapped the Rwanda scheme. In the Spring, Starmer vowed to do exactly that should he become PM.
How much of tax-payers money did Tory Governments waste in corruption and bribes to the Rwanda government and officials, to set up this shambolic scheme in the first place?
How much of tax-payers money did Tory Governments waste in corruption and bribes to the Rwanda government and officials, to set up this shambolic scheme in the first place?
There is a number, £320 million rings a bell but does not sound quite enough.
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IMO Five Reform MPs is not enough for Nigel Farage to cannibalize the conservative party.
I really don't know who they will appoint.
All I can say is that if they retain the current system of the conservative party members
having the final vote, it is unlikely to go to a non pale pink (non white) person.
It is possible that Jeremy Hunt may be put in as a safe appointment.
If not, Victoria Atkins; springs to mind.
IMO Five Reform MPs is not enough for Nigel Farage to cannibalize the conservative party.
I really don't know who they will appoint.
All I can say is that if they retain the current system of the conservative party members
having the final vote, it is unlikely to go to a non pale pink (non white) person.
It is possible that Jeremy Hunt may be put in as a safe appointment.
If not, Victoria Atkins; springs to mind.
The Guardian did a breakdown of expenses and costs:
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/mar/01/rwanda-plan-uk-asylum-seeker-cost-figures
Probably doesn't even account for all the hidden expenses, bribes and what have you...
Then again, we're dealing with the Tories who also derailed the HS2; the most expensive infrastructure project in modern British history
King Charles ruffles feathers as he drops royal patronage for pigeon racing
I am not convinced of this particular cause. I think if you object to pigeon racing but eat eggs and/or chicken you are a bit of a hypocrite. I sure know which I would prefer to be. Of course PETA do not eat animals, I am not calling them hypocrites, they certainly take their cause seriously. I bet Charlie does though. I am not convinced of their call to divert national resources into helping lost, injured, or unwanted pigeons. They seem to do fairly well on their own.
The king has upset the pigeon racing community after dropping the monarchy’s official support amid opposition from animal rights activists.
King Charles has ended royal patronage for pigeon racing, a sport his mother, Queen Elizabeth II, grandfather George VI, great-grandfather George V, and great-great-grandfather Edward VII all took part in enthusiastically.
The monarch has declined to take on two patronages held by the late queen: the Royal Pigeon Racing Association, the sport’s governing body in the UK, and the country’s premier club, the National Flying Club.
Some in the sport now fear there is worse to come, and that King Charles may ultimately end his family’s participation in the sport entirely and shut the royal pigeon loft at his Sandringham estate.
The royal family have taken part in the sport since Belgium’s King Leopold II gave Queen Victoria racing pigeons in 1886.
Ingrid Newkirk, the founder of Peta, said: “Peta applauded King Charles for sparing birds when he banned foie gras from all royal events and residences, and we now thank him for ending his patronage of pigeon racing clubs that send birds to their death, facing storms and sea crossings in their loyal quest to return to their life partner and young ... we hope that next the king will disband the royal loft and use it as a sanctuary for lost, injured, or unwanted birds.”
I am not convinced of this particular cause. I think if you object to pigeon racing but eat eggs and/or chicken you are a bit of a hypocrite. I sure know which I would prefer to be. Of course PETA do not eat animals, I am not calling them hypocrites, they certainly take their cause seriously. I bet Charlie does though. I am not convinced of their call to divert national resources into helping lost, injured, or unwanted pigeons. They seem to do fairly well on their own.
The king has upset the pigeon racing community after dropping the monarchy’s official support amid opposition from animal rights activists.
King Charles has ended royal patronage for pigeon racing, a sport his mother, Queen Elizabeth II, grandfather George VI, great-grandfather George V, and great-great-grandfather Edward VII all took part in enthusiastically.
The monarch has declined to take on two patronages held by the late queen: the Royal Pigeon Racing Association, the sport’s governing body in the UK, and the country’s premier club, the National Flying Club.
Some in the sport now fear there is worse to come, and that King Charles may ultimately end his family’s participation in the sport entirely and shut the royal pigeon loft at his Sandringham estate.
The royal family have taken part in the sport since Belgium’s King Leopold II gave Queen Victoria racing pigeons in 1886.
Ingrid Newkirk, the founder of Peta, said: “Peta applauded King Charles for sparing birds when he banned foie gras from all royal events and residences, and we now thank him for ending his patronage of pigeon racing clubs that send birds to their death, facing storms and sea crossings in their loyal quest to return to their life partner and young ... we hope that next the king will disband the royal loft and use it as a sanctuary for lost, injured, or unwanted birds.”
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I don't regard pigeon racing as cruel.
But I am not in favour of Royal patronage of nearly everything.
If Charles III does not like it, and is in favour of a slimmed down
monarchy, it is perfectly reasonable for him to simply drop it.
But I am not in favour of Royal patronage of nearly everything.
If Charles III does not like it, and is in favour of a slimmed down
monarchy, it is perfectly reasonable for him to simply drop it.
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