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It's all worth it.
Pretend literally no one will die as a result of rising cost of food/heating.
Meanwhile energy companies are raking in record profits. It's nothing to do with the availability of whatever resource is being discussed. It's privatisation not being properly-regulated by the government.
 
Meanwhile energy companies are raking in record profits. It's nothing to do with the availability of whatever resource is being discussed. It's privatisation not being properly-regulated by the government.
That's a feature, not a bug.
 
I wonder how much stock MPs hold in these power companies.

Thousands of NHS staff to leave because they can’t afford to travel to work, chiefs warn


Exclusive: ‘The cost of fuel is putting a huge amount of stress on community staff,’ warns chief Siobhan Melia

Spoiler :
Thousands of NHS community staff who rely on cars for work will be forced to leave their jobs and pursue other careers as they cannot afford soaring petrol prices, chiefs have warned.


Community services could lose eight per cent of staff in the next year, with NHS chiefs warning this will impact access to care for the most vulnerable children and adults, according to a survey shared with The Independent.

Under the latest estimates for annual energy prices, workers on the lowest salaries will be expected to spend a third of their monthly income on fuel, while an analysis of NHS data suggests that record levels of staff have already left their posts for better-paid jobs in the first three months of 2022.

As the cost of living crisis worsens, nurses have stopped making pension contributions in order to afford their home bills, while others have considered taking on second jobs – posing a risk to their wellbeing and the quality of care provided to patients.

Matthew Taylor, chief executive of the NHS Confederation, warned: “If NHS staff working in the community can’t afford to fill their tanks, then they cannot make important house calls and check in on some of the most vulnerable and poorly patients in our communities.”

He said the issue had become “critical” and now needed “urgent” action from the government on the costs of fuel for staff.

Trust leaders estimate that, on average, eight per cent of community staff – equivalent to 6,760 workers across the NHS – could leave over the next 12 months if the government does not improve its reimbursement scheme for fuel costs, according to a joint NHS Confederation and NHS Providers survey.


Currently, staff can claim back every 56p spent per mile – however, this figure has not increased since 2014, despite soaring petrol prices.

The survey, shared with The Independent, found that staff are now turning down job offers in the community which involve driving long distances into the countryside, thereby reducing the sector’s capacity to tackle backlogs of care and support safe discharge from hospital.
It added: “Many NHS leaders said community-based staff have turned down offers of community sector jobs in favour of roles nearer to home or without the need for travel, including outside of the NHS in other sectors such as retail.”


One community provider leader reported that some of their staff were already paying an additional £200 per month in fuel costs to visit patients, while another said increasing numbers of workers were calling in sick, rather than admitting that they cannot afford to pay for travel.


Siobhan Melia, an NHS leader who represents community trusts, said: “The cost of fuel is putting a huge amount of stress on community staff, who are being put off taking extra shifts or working in rural locations, and those on the lowest salaries are being hardest hit.

“As NHS leaders we are already struggling to keep staff or recruit new people to fill vacancies.”

Saffron Cordery, interim chief of NHS Provider, said that “vacancies for health visitors and district nurses are high already, and soaring fuel costs risk driving away staff we can ill afford to lose”.

According to NHS workforce data titled Reasons for Leaving, a record-breaking 1,837 members took voluntary resignations for “better reward packages” in the first three months of 2022 – equivalent to 153 every week. This is up from 1,076 at the beginning of 2020, or 89 every week.

NHS Digital said the data may include staff who are moving internally from one assignment to another within the health service. However, it acknowledged that other variables in the Reasons for Leaving dataset take into account staff who are promoted or relocated within the NHS.

Dr Latifa Patel, the workforce lead for the British Medical Association, said: “Many doctors are reaching breaking point, fed up with feeling undervalued and underpaid as the reality of working in the NHS has become increasingly more challenging, and many are choosing to talk with their feet.”

The Royal College of Nurses (RCN) said that “a decade of real terms pay cuts, coupled with spiralling living costs, is forcing many nursing staff to question if they can continue to stay in the profession”.

This week, experts warned energy bills could rocket to £7,000 a year for the first time on record.

Should bills reach this level, NHS staff in the lowest-paid jobs such as healthcare assistants or porters, who earn around £21,000 a year, could lose up to a third of their salaries.

Ms Cordery said a “lot of NHS staff are being hit hard by double-digit inflation and spiralling bills, especially younger and lower-paid workers – many of whom face real hardship”.

Lucy, a paediatric nurse at a leading central London trust, said that she was considering joining many of her former colleagues in moving into the private sector and had recently stopped contributing to her pension as a result of rising living costs.

“It’s payday in a couple of days and I’m at the bottom of two overdrafts on two different cards,” she said. “This happens every single month. I’m hoping to see a bit of improvement now that I’ve stopped contributing to my pension. I didn’t want to do that, but I felt like I didn’t have a choice.”

A recent poll by healthcare news site NursingNotes found that almost half of nurses surveyed are considering ditching their pensions due to the cost of living crisis.

James, a nurse working in a west London trust, said he was looking into picking up agency work alongside his regular shifts. “That means a 45- to 55-hour week,” he said. “This means I’m coming into work for the NHS already tired and overstretched. It’s dangerous, but my options are limited.”

The Patients Association said NHS staff are leaving “because they are worn out or don’t feel they’re adequately paid”, adding that “without a full complement of staff” across the NHS, the care provided to patients is “unlikely to be compassionate” and could pose a safety risk.
 
Currently, staff can claim back every 56p spent per mile – however, this figure has not increased since 2014, despite soaring petrol prices.

The Independent is once again missing the point about fuel poverty again:

In general NHS staff are not badly paid, and have comparatively secure jobs so they can plan (acquire suitable vehicles).

Let us do a fact check.
* Diesel costs (me last week in Norwich) £1.83 litre
* With 4.56 litres per gallon that equates to about £8.35 a UK gallon.
* If one's vehicle manages 35 miles per gallon, then the cost of diesel is about 24 pence per gallon.
* The mileage allowance of 56 pence per gallon is more than double the cost of the diesel.

The problems are with minimum wage cleaners, cooks, care workers in insecure jobs typically employed
by private companies that have significant commutes at anti-social hours where there is no public transport.

i.e. If they don't drive, the first 2 hours work pays for the taxi to get them to work and the last 2 hours work pays for the taxi home.

That means that 50% of their income for an 8 hour shift goes on transport.

That incentivises them to work a 10 hour shift to retain 60% of their pay or 12 hours to retain 67% or 14 hours to retain ....

or find a job self stacking in a nearby supermarket that they can walk to and walk home from.
 
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Liz winning will be child's play.

/delphic oracle
 
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In general NHS staff are not badly paid, and have comparatively secure jobs so they can plan (acquire suitable vehicles).
Citation needed, of course. I believe a large part of the discussion around NHS wage rises in the past few years is that they are low for anyone that isn't middle management or above.

But I guess it's possible I hallucinated all that stuff during the pandemic when the MPs voted themselves a pay rise and denied an increase to nurses and other frontline workers.
 
Here is a link to the pay scale for NHS nurses (nurses are probably the largest single employee category in the NHS):


The lowest point listed there is: £18,870 per annum.

The highest national minimum wage is £9.50 per hour according to:


For a 40 hour week, that is £380
For a 48 week year of 40 hour working weeks that is £18,240

Therefore NHS staff are not badly paid in comparison with minimum wage workers.
 
Here is a link to the pay scale for NHS nurses (nurses are probably the largest single employee category in the NHS):


The lowest point listed there is: £18,870 per annum.

The highest national minimum wage is £9.50 per hour according to:


For a 40 hour week, that is £380
For a 48 week year of 40 hour working weeks that is £18,240

Therefore NHS staff are not badly paid in comparison with minimum wage workers.

So because they are paid more slightly more than the legal minimum you are arguing that they aren't badly paid?
 
Here is a link to the pay scale for NHS nurses (nurses are probably the largest single employee category in the NHS):


The lowest point listed there is: £18,870 per annum.

The highest national minimum wage is £9.50 per hour according to:


For a 40 hour week, that is £380
For a 48 week year of 40 hour working weeks that is £18,240

Therefore NHS staff are not badly paid in comparison with minimum wage workers.

What would it take for you to consider someone badly paid when slightly about minimum wage isn't?
 
The £18,870 figure is per annum and presumable includes paid holidays - for a comparable figure you can't just cut off the minimum wage worker at 48 weeks.

Using the same figures above - someone working 40 hours per week for a full year on the minimum wage would presumable earn holiday pay earning them £19,760 over 52 weeks.
 
Meanwhile energy companies are raking in record profits. It's nothing to do with the availability of whatever resource is being discussed. It's privatisation not being properly-regulated by the government.
"Record profit" is an empty word until we look at the percentage. What is percentage of the profit? If its, say, 5% (which might be still listed as "record profits" in absolute terms), there is no much room for price reduction.
 
"Record profit" is an empty word until we look at the percentage. What is percentage of the profit? If its, say, 5% (which might be still listed as "record profits" in absolute terms), there is no much room for price reduction.
When the executives and C-suite employees are giving themselves record bonuses as we the public pay record costs to a private company, it's a safe bet that a lack of price reduction is intentional.

They're not nationalised, right? And yet we're still effectively subsidising their success.
 
@ AmazonQueen

I am aware that an inexperienced new nurse at the bottom of their NHS pay scale
might earn less than a minimum wage worker clocking up a lot of overtime.

But that is only a temporary situation, i.e. until they progress up the pay scale
or on to a higher pay scale.

There is more likely to be issue with cleaners, porters and doormen working in
NHS hospitals but employed by contractors rather than NHS employees themselves.

@ Really

Some minimum paid workers get holiday pay, others don't.

There is this thing called the gig economy with minimum hours contracts etc.

In theory we could look for an average remuneration package for them all,
but then the average remuneration package for a NHS nurse is much
more than the minimum pay of the lowest pay nursing scale.

@ Uppi

It is always possible to argue that NHS staff are poorly paid for their
responsibilities and skills, or in comparison with equivalents in other
countries etc; but I think that it is misleading to buy into the article's
argument that their pay is such that they can not afford to travel to work.

My point is that NHS staff are not badly paid compared with many other sectors.
 
My point is that NHS staff are not badly paid compared with many other sectors.
If you make any comparison that involves minimum wage in any capacity, especially for an institution as vital as the NHS, then yes, they're being paid poorly. Forcing parking costs on them on top of everything else (by the by, when the private sector often has its own parking as well as fuel buyback) is definitely worth criticising.
 
Liz Truss's answer to high energy bills? Issue up to 130 new drilling licences, which typically take nearly three decades to produce any oil and gas.

Liz Truss will sign off on a push for more oil drilling in the North Sea if she wins the Conservative leadership election, according to reports, drawing criticism from environmental campaigners.​
Amid mounting public dismay about soaring energy bills, Truss's policy advisers are thought to be discussing proposals to issue up to 130 new drilling licences, which typically take nearly three decades to produce any oil and gas.​
The business secretary, Kwasi Kwarteng, and the Brexit opportunities minister, Jacob Rees-Mogg, have been meeting oil and gas firms to discuss how to secure energy supplies this winter, the Times reported.​
The discussions reportedly involve importing more gas from Norway in the short term, while ramping up domestic production. The climate change committee has previously said it takes an average of 28 years for an exploration licence to lead to oil and gas production.​
The Greenpeace chief UK scientist, Dr Doug Parr, said intensifying North Sea drilling would do little to bring down energy bills.​
"Unleashing a North Sea drilling frenzy isn't a plan to help bill payers but a gift to the fossil fuel giants already making billions from this crisis," he said.​
"New oil and gas could take a quarter of a century to pump out, will be eventually sold at global prices, and have no real impact on energy bills yet still fuel the climate crisis."​
He said the UK's dependence on gas was among the factors driving up bills and called for faster action to promote new wind and solar projects, as well as improving energy efficiency by insulating UK homes, which are among the leakiest in Europe.​
 
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