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UKIP go from strength to strength

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by Quackers, Oct 2, 2014.

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  1. Flying Pig

    Flying Pig Utrinque Paratus Moderator

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    That's what the right always say, and it's dangerous. Quite apart from whether there's such thing as a 'just the facts' approach - and I don't think there is, though we've had lively discussions in the History subforum about it - you're assuming that how things are can be turned logically into how things ought to be. That means that when you engage with someone like TF, who uses the same world as you do but imagines that it ought to be something totally different to what you think it should be, you assume that he's somehow got the facts wrong rather than seeing how or why he might think as he does.
     
  2. Borachio

    Borachio Way past lunacy

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    And people, of the male persuasion, can be described as well-hung (I've heard). But that's another idiom entirely.
     
  3. ParkCungHee

    ParkCungHee Deity

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    Honestly, it's a popular technique all around.
     
  4. bhsup

    bhsup Deity

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    That's really not his problem that others have a skewed view of their own beliefs. I totally understand where he's coming from with his belief that his views are normal. For the gazillionth time...

     
  5. Borachio

    Borachio Way past lunacy

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    Well. I'd certainly have to admit that my own views are rather left wing. I certainly don't consider them to be "normal".

    I rather like to flatter myself I have more imagination than that.
     
  6. Domen

    Domen Misico dux Vandalorum

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    Santa Claus doesn't exist so... people with normal views don't exist?
     
  7. Borachio

    Borachio Way past lunacy

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    I honestly have never met a "normal" person.
     
  8. Arakhor

    Arakhor Dremora Courtier Moderator

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    Unfortunately, possessing such a belief is useless in a discussion with anyone not of the same mindset.
     
  9. useless

    useless Social Justice Rogue

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    How dare i think that people of differing ethnicities, religions, sexual orientations, etc should be treated equally.

    What an evil fanatic i am.
     
  10. Borachio

    Borachio Way past lunacy

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    Yes. Hang your head in shame, and wash your brain out.
     
  11. useless

    useless Social Justice Rogue

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    Quackers wouldn't know what a fanatic is even if Anjem Choudary walked through his door and forced him to convert to Islam at knife point
     
  12. Tolina

    Tolina trust the pillars with your s e c r e t s

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    I, for one, hail our overlord Bishop, the centre of anything!
     
  13. bhsup

    bhsup Deity

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    Your name has been duly added to the protected lists. Obedience is rewarded!
     
  14. Quackers

    Quackers The Frog

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    Miliband has blundered his way into a corner. Refuse and he looks stupid...debate with Farage and appear even more stupid :lol:

    Loving it.
     
  15. useless

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    Appearing anywhere near farage would be pretty stupid, given Farage is an idiot. Glad we both agree on this Quackers.
     
  16. Ziggy Stardust

    Ziggy Stardust New Englander

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    You're [edit: both] right. Never argue with populist idiots like Mr. Farage, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.

    Common ground baby yeah! :banana:
     
  17. Tolina

    Tolina trust the pillars with your s e c r e t s

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    Isn't that the point of arguments? To use your experience in life to win the debate?
     
  18. Arakhor

    Arakhor Dremora Courtier Moderator

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    “Mr Edward S. Miliband”? So Farage wrote a letter as if to a private citizen, but then signed it as if the writer was anything but? Could he be more obnoxious?
     
  19. Borachio

    Borachio Way past lunacy

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    Could be. Or debates could be a sincere cooperative effort to uncover the truth. But that's a much rarer aim, I guess.
     
  20. Ziggy Stardust

    Ziggy Stardust New Englander

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    My experience in debates tells me that if you're in it to win it, you've lost it.

    Yoda aint got nothin' on me.
     
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