Unique unit elimination thread

[Kimiimaro]

Conquistador (Spain) - 22
Cossack (Russia) - 25
De Zeven Provinciën (Netherlands) - 26
Domrey (Khmer) - 16
Eagle Warrior (Aztec) - 32
Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) - 22
Hwacha (Korea) - 8-3=5 - I'm not sure what to downvote, sho I'll strike Hwacha. Not being able to move and attack at the same turn seems like a quite big disadvantage to me.
Hypaspist (Macedon) - 10
Impi (Zulu) - 16
Jong (Indonesia) - 24
Keshig (Mongolia) - 12
Legion (Rome) - 32+1=33 - I'm one of the people who don't use the chopping, but I have to admit that it's quite good unit - it doesn't need iron and it's stronger than Swordsman. It also comes quite early.
Malón Raider (Mapuche) - 17
Mamluk (Arabia) - 31
Minas Geraes (Brazil) - 24
Ngao Mbeba (Kongo) - 19
Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 34
Redcoat (England/Victoria) - 16
Varu (India) - 27
Viking Longship (Norway/Harald Hardrada) - 21
War-Cart (Sumer) - 35
Winged Hussar (Poland) - 13

 

[BenitoChavez]

Conquistador (Spain) - 22
Cossack (Russia) – 25
De Zeven Provinciën (Netherlands) - 26
Domrey (Khmer) - 16
Eagle Warrior (Aztec) - 32
Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) - 22
Hwacha (Korea) – 5
Hypaspist (Macedon): - 10
Impi (Zulu) - 16
Jong (Indonesia) - 25 = 24 + 1. Early frigates are nice.
Keshig (Mongolia) – 12
Legion (Rome) - 33
Malón Raider (Mapuche) - 17
Mamluk (Arabia) - 31
Minas Geraes (Brazil) - 24
Ngao Mbeba (Kongo) - 19
Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 34
Redcoat (England/Victoria): - 16
Varu (India) - 27
Viking Longship (Norway/Harald Hardrada) - 18 = 21 - 3. I always have a hard time using them effectively.
War-Cart (Sumer) - 35
Winged Hussar (Poland) – 13

 

[BarbarianHunter]

Conquistador (Spain) - 22
Cossack (Russia) – 25
De Zeven Provinciën (Netherlands) - 26
Domrey (Khmer) - 16
Eagle Warrior (Aztec) - 32
Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) – 23 (22+1) --- I am at a loss as to why this unit is rated at 22. There are more than a few positives here. Chopping them out with Magnus (will change with update) not only gets you 25 science per unit when built in your Basilikoi Paides but also a heavy hitting unit that starts w/ 1 promotion and moves 4. This allows you to slam a couple of them into a city then promote and fully heal just as the next chopped unit arrives (and then there were 3). Chop/Rinse/Repeat. Does not require strategic resources. The initial 36 Melee strength is illusory. The operational melee strength is (or will soon be) 46: That’s 36 +5 for a great general and +5 for the bonus Heteroi get for being next to a great general. As we know, knights start at 48. Don’t worry, if you don’t have a great general from building your Basilikoi Paides already, you soon will, as each enemy unit you kill grants you +5 great general points. The unit is also available early in the tech tree with horsemanship. Lastly, if you have access to iron, invest the 25 science you receive for building a Heteroi into Stirrups and upgrade to knights on the quick (but who needs ‘em).
Hwacha (Korea) – 5
Hypaspist (Macedon): - 10
Impi (Zulu) – 13 (16-3) --- So the unit promotes quickly, right. Ok. And?
Jong (Indonesia) – 25
Keshig (Mongolia) – 12
Legion (Rome) - 33
Malón Raider (Mapuche) - 17
Mamluk (Arabia) - 31
Minas Geraes (Brazil) - 24
Ngao Mbeba (Kongo) - 19
Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 34
Redcoat (England/Victoria): - 16
Varu (India) - 27
Viking Longship (Norway/Harald Hardrada) - 18
War-Cart (Sumer) - 35
Winged Hussar (Poland) – 13

 

[NauticalStrike]

Conquistador (Spain) - 22
Cossack (Russia) – 25
De Zeven Provinciën (Netherlands) - 26
Domrey (Khmer) - 16 - 3 = 13 I love the look of these guys, but they come too late, and take too long to upgrade. Would be much better as a direct unit replacement.
Eagle Warrior (Aztec) - 32
Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) – 23
Hwacha (Korea) – 5
Hypaspist (Macedon): - 10
Impi (Zulu) – 13
Jong (Indonesia) – 25
Keshig (Mongolia) – 12
Legion (Rome) - 33
Malón Raider (Mapuche) - 17
Mamluk (Arabia) - 31
Minas Geraes (Brazil) - 24
Ngao Mbeba (Kongo) - 19
Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 34
Redcoat (England/Victoria): - 16
Varu (India) - 27 + 1 = 28 These units are scary for a long time in the right hands.
Viking Longship (Norway/Harald Hardrada) - 18
War-Cart (Sumer) - 35
Winged Hussar (Poland) – 13

 

[Stomper66]

Conquistador (Spain) - 22
Cossack (Russia) – 25
De Zeven Provinciën (Netherlands) - 26
Domrey (Khmer) - 13
Eagle Warrior (Aztec) - 32
Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) – 23
Hwacha (Korea) – 5
Hypaspist (Macedon): - 10
Impi (Zulu) – 10 (13-3) I do like anti cavalry units but their bonuses just don't stand out that much.
Jong (Indonesia) – 25
Keshig (Mongolia) – 12
Legion (Rome) - 33
Malón Raider (Mapuche) - 17
Mamluk (Arabia) - 31
Minas Geraes (Brazil) - 24
Ngao Mbeba (Kongo) - 19
Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 34
Redcoat (England/Victoria): - 17 (16+1) awesome unit to invade a continent with. Even better when they multiply after taking cities.
Varu (India) - 28
Viking Longship (Norway/Harald Hardrada) - 18
War-Cart (Sumer) - 35
Winged Hussar (Poland) – 13

 

[WillowBrook]

Conquistador (Spain) - 22
Cossack (Russia) – 25
De Zeven Provinciën (Netherlands) - 26
Domrey (Khmer) - 13
Eagle Warrior (Aztec) - 32
Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) – 23
Hwacha (Korea) – 5
Hypaspist (Macedon) - 11 (10+1) It might be my imagination, but the support bonus seemed quite helpful in my limited experience with these. At the very least, they're a better swordsman replacement than Kongo's.
Impi (Zulu) – 10
Jong (Indonesia) – 25
Keshig (Mongolia) – 12
Legion (Rome) - 33
Malón Raider (Mapuche) - 17
Mamluk (Arabia) - 31
Minas Geraes (Brazil) - 24
Ngao Mbeba (Kongo) - 16 (19-3) Sure, not needing iron is nice, but it's one of the least impressive of the remaining units.
Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 34
Redcoat (England/Victoria) - 17
Varu (India) - 28
Viking Longship (Norway/Harald Hardrada) - 18
War-Cart (Sumer) - 35
Winged Hussar (Poland) – 13

 

[Hammurabbit]

Conquistador (Spain) - 22
Cossack (Russia) – 25
De Zeven Provinciën (Netherlands) - 26
Domrey (Khmer) - 13
Eagle Warrior (Aztec) - 32
Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) – 23
Hwacha (Korea) – 5
Hypaspist (Macedon): - 11
Impi (Zulu) – 10
Jong (Indonesia) – 25
Keshig (Mongolia) – 9 = 12 - 3, decent unit but doesnt live up to the hype. I have a feeling their prime time is pretty short.
Legion (Rome) - 33
Malón Raider (Mapuche) - 17
Mamluk (Arabia) - 31
Minas Geraes (Brazil) - 25 = 24 +1 - these badboys can turn up early in the game and scare the **** out of your coastal cities
Ngao Mbeba (Kongo) - 16
Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 34
Redcoat (England/Victoria): - 17
Varu (India) - 28
Viking Longship (Norway/Harald Hardrada) - 18
War-Cart (Sumer) - 35
Winged Hussar (Poland) – 13

 

[Mr. Shadows]

Conquistador (Spain) - 22
Cossack (Russia) – 25
De Zeven Provinciën (Netherlands) - 26
Domrey (Khmer) - 13
Eagle Warrior (Aztec) - 32
Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) – 23
Hwacha (Korea) – 5
Hypaspist (Macedon): - 12 (11+1=12) These guys can hit extremely hard if you're willing to use them. Even if you only upgraded 3-4 warriors they can knock over cities with ease.
Impi (Zulu) – 10
Jong (Indonesia) – 25
Keshig (Mongolia) – 6 (9-3=6) They're fancy, expensive and mostly for flavor IMHO.
Legion (Rome) - 33
Malón Raider (Mapuche) - 17
Mamluk (Arabia) - 31
Minas Geraes (Brazil) - 25
Ngao Mbeba (Kongo) - 16
Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 34
Redcoat (England/Victoria): - 17
Varu (India) - 28
Viking Longship (Norway/Harald Hardrada) - 18
War-Cart (Sumer) - 35
Winged Hussar (Poland) – 13

 

[grant2004]

Conquistador (Spain) - 22
Cossack (Russia) – 25
De Zeven Provinciën (Netherlands) - 26
Domrey (Khmer) - 13
Eagle Warrior (Aztec) - 32
Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) – 23
Hwacha (Korea) – 5
Hypaspist (Macedon): - 12
Impi (Zulu) – 7 = (10-3) Most of the strength of this unit really comes from the Zulu and Shaka's abilities. Little is actually tied to the unit itself.
Jong (Indonesia) – 25
Keshig (Mongolia) – 6
Legion (Rome) - 34 = (33+1) I'll give one more to the Legion. That builder charge is a small economic benefit on top of an already good unit from a military standpoint, not as good of an economic benefit as the Eagle Warrior, but worth an up vote none the less
Malón Raider (Mapuche) - 17
Mamluk (Arabia) - 31
Minas Geraes (Brazil) - 25
Ngao Mbeba (Kongo) - 16
Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 34
Redcoat (England/Victoria): - 17
Varu (India) - 28
Viking Longship (Norway/Harald Hardrada) - 18
War-Cart (Sumer) - 35
Winged Hussar (Poland) – 13

 

[The Highwayman]

Conquistador (Spain) - 22
Cossack (Russia) – 25
De Zeven Provinciën (Netherlands) - 26
Domrey (Khmer) - 10 (13-3) A siege unit has no business among the upper tier UUs.
Eagle Warrior (Aztec) - 32
Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) – 24 (23+1) All the reasons from my previous post. Apparently way under rated in this game. Once they earn a GG, it's gg.
Hwacha (Korea) – 5
Hypaspist (Macedon): - 12
Impi (Zulu) – 7
Jong (Indonesia) – 25
Keshig (Mongolia) – 6
Legion (Rome) - 34
Malón Raider (Mapuche) - 17
Mamluk (Arabia) - 31
Minas Geraes (Brazil) - 25
Ngao Mbeba (Kongo) - 16
Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 34
Redcoat (England/Victoria): - 17
Varu (India) - 28
Viking Longship (Norway/Harald Hardrada) - 18
War-Cart (Sumer) - 35
Winged Hussar (Poland) – 13

 

[Eliminator_Sr]

Conquistador (Spain) - 22
Cossack (Russia) – 25
De Zeven Provinciën (Netherlands) - 26
Domrey (Khmer) - 10
Eagle Warrior (Aztec): 32 + 1 = 33 (Wow so the Legion gets a single chop - I'll take 10+ chops from this builder factory. It's the best unit by far)
Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) – 24
Hwacha (Korea): 5 - 3 = 2 (Found this to be pretty underwhelming the one time I used them but at least it has 2 range so it's better than the the Crouching Tiger)
Hypaspist (Macedon): - 12
Impi (Zulu) – 7
Jong (Indonesia) – 25
Keshig (Mongolia) – 6
Legion (Rome) - 34
Malón Raider (Mapuche) - 17
Mamluk (Arabia) - 31
Minas Geraes (Brazil) - 25
Ngao Mbeba (Kongo) - 16
Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 34
Redcoat (England/Victoria): - 17
Varu (India) - 28
Viking Longship (Norway/Harald Hardrada) - 18
War-Cart (Sumer) - 35
Winged Hussar (Poland) – 13

 

[KAL_MAD]

Conquistador (Spain) - 22
Cossack (Russia) – 25
De Zeven Provinciën (Netherlands) - 26
Domrey (Khmer) - 10
Eagle Warrior (Aztec): 33 + 1 = 34 You get it from the start. Stronger than the warrior, and gives you free builders
Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) – 24
Hwacha (Korea): 2 - 3 = -1 ELIMINATED Not really game changing. The fact that you cannot attack and move in the same turn is annoying. Prefer the field cannon
Hypaspist (Macedon): - 12
Impi (Zulu) – 7
Jong (Indonesia) – 25
Keshig (Mongolia) – 6
Legion (Rome) - 34
Malón Raider (Mapuche) - 17
Mamluk (Arabia) - 31
Minas Geraes (Brazil) - 25
Ngao Mbeba (Kongo) - 16
Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 34
Redcoat (England/Victoria): - 17
Varu (India) - 28
Viking Longship (Norway/Harald Hardrada) - 18
War-Cart (Sumer) - 35
Winged Hussar (Poland) – 13

 

[sadsquid]

Conquistador (Spain) - 22
Cossack (Russia) – 25
De Zeven Provinciën (Netherlands) - 26
Domrey (Khmer) - 10
Eagle Warrior (Aztec): 34
Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) – 24
Hypaspist (Macedon): - 12
Impi (Zulu) – 7
Jong (Indonesia) – 25
Keshig (Mongolia) – 6
Legion (Rome) - 34
Malón Raider (Mapuche) - 17
Mamluk (Arabia) - 31
Minas Geraes (Brazil) - 25
Ngao Mbeba (Kongo) - 16
Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 34
Redcoat (England/Victoria): - 17
Varu (India) - 28
Viking Longship (Norway/Harald Hardrada) - 15 (18 - 3) Naval units are less useful than land units in general, and this is the weakest of the remaining naval units.
War-Cart (Sumer) - 36 (35 + 1) Available as early as possible. Incredibly strong for the start of the game, with no real weakness and good movement.
Winged Hussar (Poland) – 13

 

[Leathaface]

Conquistador (Spain) - 22
Cossack (Russia) – 25
De Zeven Provinciën (Netherlands) - 26
Domrey (Khmer) - 10
Eagle Warrior (Aztec): 34
Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) – 24
Hypaspist (Macedon): - 12
Impi (Zulu) – 7
Jong (Indonesia) – 25
Keshig (Mongolia) – 3 (6 - 3) Have to hard build them, don't fare well against Knights.
Legion (Rome) - 34
Malón Raider (Mapuche) - 17
Mamluk (Arabia) - 32 (31 + 1) We all know how devastating Knights can be. Arabia can build them without Iron, plus they heal at the end of every turn. I fear Saladin when I start next to him.
Minas Geraes (Brazil) - 25
Ngao Mbeba (Kongo) - 16
Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 34
Redcoat (England/Victoria): - 17
Varu (India) - 28
Viking Longship (Norway/Harald Hardrada) - 15
War-Cart (Sumer) - 36
Winged Hussar (Poland) – 13

 

[MrRadar]

Conquistador (Spain) - 22
Cossack (Russia) – 25
De Zeven Provinciën (Netherlands) - 26
Domrey (Khmer) - 7 (10-3) I quit building catapults and bombards long ago. Ram+melee beat them all, and Domrey is no exception. What an oversight. This one is certainly less useful as a UU than a certain unique scout eliminated earlier.
Eagle Warrior (Aztec): 35 (34+1) Eagle must soar above all, reasons as before, strong, available from the start, brings builders, only one policy away from Agoge.
Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) – 24
Hypaspist (Macedon): - 12
Impi (Zulu) – 7
Jong (Indonesia) – 25
Keshig (Mongolia) – 3
Legion (Rome) - 34
Malón Raider (Mapuche) - 17
Mamluk (Arabia) - 32
Minas Geraes (Brazil) - 25
Ngao Mbeba (Kongo) - 16
Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 34
Redcoat (England/Victoria): - 17
Varu (India) - 28
Viking Longship (Norway/Harald Hardrada) - 15
War-Cart (Sumer) - 36
Winged Hussar (Poland) – 13

 

[God of Kings]

Conquistador (Spain) - 22
Cossack (Russia) – 25
De Zeven Provinciën (Netherlands) - 26
Domrey (Khmer) - 7
Eagle Warrior (Aztec): 35 + 1 = 36 Available before your capital is settled? Good chance of getting free builders who can rush districts? Even spaceports? Yes please!
Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) – 24
Hypaspist (Macedon): - 12
Impi (Zulu) – 7
Jong (Indonesia) – 25
Keshig (Mongolia) – 3 - 3 = ELIMINATED Did not live up to its Civ V counterpart
Legion (Rome) - 34
Malón Raider (Mapuche) - 17
Mamluk (Arabia) - 32
Minas Geraes (Brazil) - 25
Ngao Mbeba (Kongo) - 16
Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 34
Redcoat (England/Victoria): - 17
Varu (India) - 28
Viking Longship (Norway/Harald Hardrada) - 15
War-Cart (Sumer) - 36
Winged Hussar (Poland) – 13

 

[eleven11]

Conquistador (Spain) - 22
Cossack (Russia) – 25
De Zeven Provinciën (Netherlands) - 26
Domrey (Khmer) - 4 (7-3) - Flavor. That is all.
Eagle Warrior (Aztec): 36
Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) – 24
Hypaspist (Macedon): - 12
Impi (Zulu) – 7
Jong (Indonesia) – 25
Legion (Rome) - 34
Malón Raider (Mapuche) - 17
Mamluk (Arabia) - 32
Minas Geraes (Brazil) - 25
Ngao Mbeba (Kongo) - 16
Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 35 (34+1) - 70 Base (35 with Ta-Seti, 17.5 with Agoge) nets you a super archer that deals out 30 a round and can move onto hills or through forests and attack. You will be pumping them out incredibly fast. Contrast this to 27.5 for a Maneuver War-Cart and 32.5 for an Agoge Eagle Warrior. If you manage your XP well, by the time you cap your first city, one or two Pitati will be fully upgraded and dishing out 60 per round in the Classical Age. On top of that there are no special mechanics to put into play - just point and shoot.
Redcoat (England/Victoria): - 17
Varu (India) - 28
Viking Longship (Norway/Harald Hardrada) - 15
War-Cart (Sumer) - 36
Winged Hussar (Poland) – 13

 

[Rosty K]

Conquistador (Spain) - 22
Cossack (Russia) – 25
De Zeven Provinciën (Netherlands) - 26
Domrey (Khmer) - 4
Eagle Warrior (Aztec): 36
Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) – 24
Hypaspist (Macedon): - 12
Impi (Zulu) – 7
Jong (Indonesia) – 26 (25 + 1) - Back to even with them Dutch Imperialists
Legion (Rome) - 34
Malón Raider (Mapuche) - 17
Mamluk (Arabia) - 32
Minas Geraes (Brazil) - 25
Ngao Mbeba (Kongo) - 13 (16 - 3) - Don't want to downvote the units I didn't play with, and this one is the least special of the remaining choices.
Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 35
Redcoat (England/Victoria): - 17
Varu (India) - 28
Viking Longship (Norway/Harald Hardrada) - 15
War-Cart (Sumer) - 36
Winged Hussar (Poland) – 13

 

[Weraptor]

Conquistador (Spain) - 22
Cossack (Russia) – 25
De Zeven Provinciën (Netherlands) - 26
Domrey (Khmer) - 4
Eagle Warrior (Aztec): 36
Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) – 24
Hypaspist (Macedon): - 12
Impi (Zulu) – 7
Jong (Indonesia) – 26
Legion (Rome) - 34
Malón Raider (Mapuche) - 17
Mamluk (Arabia) - 32
Minas Geraes (Brazil) - 25 - 3 = 22 You can do too well in naval combat even without these. Fix, please.
Ngao Mbeba (Kongo) - 13
Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 35
Redcoat (England/Victoria): - 17
Varu (India) - 28
Viking Longship (Norway/Harald Hardrada) - 15
War-Cart (Sumer) - 36
Winged Hussar (Poland) – 13 + 1 = 14 Quite strong and long-lasting, but it's costly. Upvoted for flavour.

 

[BenitoChavez]

Conquistador (Spain) - 22
Cossack (Russia) – 25
De Zeven Provinciën (Netherlands) - 26
Domrey (Khmer) - 4
Eagle Warrior (Aztec): 36
Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) – 24
Hypaspist (Macedon): - 12
Impi (Zulu) – 7
Jong (Indonesia) – 26
Legion (Rome) - 35 = 34 + 1. Very strong and extra chops. I usually build a bunch of warriors and upgrade them to Legions which helps offset the extra production cost.
Malón Raider (Mapuche) - 17
Mamluk (Arabia) - 32
Minas Geraes (Brazil) - 22
Ngao Mbeba (Kongo) - 13
Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 35
Redcoat (England/Victoria): - 17
Varu (India) - 28
Viking Longship (Norway/Harald Hardrada) - 12 = 15 - 3. Too situational to be that useful.
War-Cart (Sumer) - 36
Winged Hussar (Poland) – 14