Unique unit elimination thread

[Rosty K]

@frubox' vote was skipped. Berserker is dead now, and Impi should have 22 points.

I've edited my vote (since it's the last one) to reflect this. The numbers in my vote should be correct.

 

[WillowBrook]

I will trust that @Rosty K has the scores correct now.

**Also, please remember that there are to be no posts except to vote, unless there is an error in the score.**

Conquistador (Spain) - 21
Cossack (Russia) - 22
De Zeven Provinciën (Netherlands) - 21
Digger (Australia) - 20
Domrey (Khmer) - 22
Eagle Warrior (Aztec) - 28
Garde Imperiale (France) - 21
Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) - 20
Hoplite (Greece) - 22
Hwacha (Korea) - 21
Hypaspist (Macedon) - 20
Immortal (Persia) - 21
Impi (Zulu) - 22
Jong (Indonesia) - 25 (24 + 1) - A strong early frigate is really fun, not to mention it's its ability to speed units across the water.
Keshig (Mongolia) - 20
Legion (Rome) - 26
Malón Raider (Mapuche) - 23
Mamluk (Arabia) - 25
Minas Geraes (Brazil) - 23
Ngao Mbeba (Kongo) - 21
Okihtcitaw (Cree) - 5
Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 27
Redcoat (England/Victoria) - 21
Rough Rider (America/Teddy Roosevelt) - 14
Sea Dog (England) - 14
Saka Horse Archer (Scythia) - 8
Samurai (Japan) - 16 (19-3) I've played several games as Japan and never had reason to build one
Varu (India) - 22
Viking Longship (Norway/Harald Hardrada) - 21
War-Cart (Sumer) - 26
Winged Hussar (Poland) - 17

 

[Temppu]

Conquistador (Spain) - 21
Cossack (Russia) - 22
De Zeven Provinciën (Netherlands) - 21
Digger (Australia) - 20
Domrey (Khmer) - 22
Eagle Warrior (Aztec) - 28
Garde Imperiale (France) - 21
Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) - 20
Hoplite (Greece) - 22
Hwacha (Korea) - 21
Hypaspist (Macedon) - 20
Immortal (Persia) - 21
Impi (Zulu) - 22
Jong (Indonesia) - 25
Keshig (Mongolia) - 20
Legion (Rome) - 26
Malón Raider (Mapuche) - 23
Mamluk (Arabia) - 25
Minas Geraes (Brazil) - 23
Ngao Mbeba (Kongo) - 21
Okihtcitaw (Cree) - 6 =5+1, Desperately trying to delay the inevitable. I dont get the Scout hate of some guys. Stronger Scout->more exploration and Goody huts.
Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 27
Redcoat (England/Victoria) - 21
Rough Rider (America/Teddy Roosevelt) - 14
Sea Dog (England) - 14
Saka Horse Archer (Scythia) - 8
Samurai (Japan) - 13 =16-3 One more Military Tacticts never ever built unit to go before Okihtcitaw guys.
Varu (India) - 22
Viking Longship (Norway/Harald Hardrada) - 21
War-Cart (Sumer) - 26
Winged Hussar (Poland) - 17

 

[drubell]

Conquistador (Spain) - 21
Cossack (Russia) - 22
De Zeven Provinciën (Netherlands) - 21
Digger (Australia) - 20
Domrey (Khmer) - 22
Eagle Warrior (Aztec) - 29 (+1, There's a lot of really good UUs in the game, but I don't think there's any UU that can have so much of a major impact to your game as the Eagle Warrior does)
Garde Imperiale (France) - 21
Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) - 20
Hoplite (Greece) - 22
Hwacha (Korea) - 21
Hypaspist (Macedon) - 20
Immortal (Persia) - 21
Impi (Zulu) - 22
Jong (Indonesia) - 25
Keshig (Mongolia) - 20
Legion (Rome) - 26
Malón Raider (Mapuche) - 23
Mamluk (Arabia) - 25
Minas Geraes (Brazil) - 23
Ngao Mbeba (Kongo) - 21
Okihtcitaw (Cree) - 6
Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 27
Redcoat (England/Victoria) - 21
Rough Rider (America/Teddy Roosevelt) - 11 (-3, get out of here, Rough Rider. You're literally the worst UU in the game and should have been eliminated first)
Sea Dog (England) - 14
Saka Horse Archer (Scythia) - 8
Samurai (Japan) - 13
Varu (India) - 22
Viking Longship (Norway/Harald Hardrada) - 21
War-Cart (Sumer) - 26

 

[Phoenix1595]

Conquistador (Spain) - 21
Cossack (Russia) - 22
De Zeven Provinciën (Netherlands) - 21
Digger (Australia) - 20
Domrey (Khmer) - 22
Eagle Warrior (Aztec) - 29
Garde Imperiale (France) - 21
Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) - 20
Hoplite (Greece) - 22
Hwacha (Korea) - 21
Hypaspist (Macedon) - 20
Immortal (Persia) - 21
Impi (Zulu) - 22
Jong (Indonesia) - 25
Keshig (Mongolia) - 20
Legion (Rome) - 26
Malón Raider (Mapuche) - 23
Mamluk (Arabia) - 25
Minas Geraes (Brazil) - 23
Ngao Mbeba (Kongo) - 21
Okihtcitaw (Cree) - 3 (6-3... I wanted to love this unit during previews, but I was disappointed with the weaknesses still present in what should have been a warrior with bonus movement)
Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 27
Redcoat (England/Victoria) - 21
Rough Rider (America/Teddy Roosevelt) - 11
Sea Dog (England) - 14
Saka Horse Archer (Scythia) - 8
Samurai (Japan) - 14 (13+1.. Giving the samurai a little TLC for the cool variations in unit graphics. Otherwise, I agree: they are not as strong as they should be).
Varu (India) - 22
Viking Longship (Norway/Harald Hardrada) - 21
War-Cart (Sumer) - 26

 

[MrRadar]

Conquistador (Spain) - 21
Cossack (Russia) - 22
De Zeven Provinciën (Netherlands) - 21
Digger (Australia) - 20
Domrey (Khmer) - 22
Eagle Warrior (Aztec) - 29
Garde Imperiale (France) - 21
Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) - 20
Hoplite (Greece) - 22
Hwacha (Korea) - 21
Hypaspist (Macedon) - 20
Immortal (Persia) - 21
Impi (Zulu) - 22
Jong (Indonesia) - 25
Keshig (Mongolia) - 20
Legion (Rome) - 26
Malón Raider (Mapuche) - 23
Mamluk (Arabia) - 25
Minas Geraes (Brazil) - 23
Ngao Mbeba (Kongo) - 21
Okihtcitaw (Cree) - 4 (3+1) just a little boost for an overbullied one. A bit too early for him to leave.
Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 27
Redcoat (England/Victoria) - 21
Rough Rider (America/Teddy Roosevelt) - 11
Sea Dog (England) - 11 (14-3) - England wouldn't lose much (if anything, at the present state of the game) having a regular privateer instead
Saka Horse Archer (Scythia) - 8
Samurai (Japan) - 14
Varu (India) - 22
Viking Longship (Norway/Harald Hardrada) - 21
War-Cart (Sumer) - 26

 

[Kimiimaro]

Conquistador (Spain) - 21
Cossack (Russia) - 22
De Zeven Provinciën (Netherlands) - 21
Digger (Australia) - 20
Domrey (Khmer) - 22
Eagle Warrior (Aztec) - 29
Garde Imperiale (France) - 21
Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) - 20
Hoplite (Greece) - 22
Hwacha (Korea) - 21
Hypaspist (Macedon) - 20
Immortal (Persia) - 21
Impi (Zulu) - 22
Jong (Indonesia) - 25
Keshig (Mongolia) - 20
Legion (Rome) - 26
Malón Raider (Mapuche) - 23
Mamluk (Arabia) - 25+1=26 - A knight that doesn't need resources and heals on every turn. Enough said.
Minas Geraes (Brazil) - 23
Ngao Mbeba (Kongo) - 21
Okihtcitaw (Cree) - 4
Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 27
Redcoat (England/Victoria) - 21
Rough Rider (America/Teddy Roosevelt) - 11
Sea Dog (England) - 11-3=8 - I have to agree. The AI isn't good in naval invasions and in building ships in general, so there isn't much to steal with it.
Saka Horse Archer (Scythia) - 8
Samurai (Japan) - 14
Varu (India) - 22
Viking Longship (Norway/Harald Hardrada) - 21
War-Cart (Sumer) - 26

 

[Amrunril]

Conquistador (Spain) - 21
Cossack (Russia) - 22
De Zeven Provinciën (Netherlands) - 21
Digger (Australia) - 20
Domrey (Khmer) - 22
Eagle Warrior (Aztec) - 29
Garde Imperiale (France) - 21
Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) - 20
Hoplite (Greece) - 22
Hwacha (Korea) - 21
Hypaspist (Macedon) - 20
Immortal (Persia) - 21
Impi (Zulu) - 19 (22-3) Impis with +15 strength from Shaka's ability are incredibly strong, but there's nothing particularly special about the unit itself.
Jong (Indonesia) - 25
Keshig (Mongolia) - 21 (20 +1) The Civ VI version lacks the hit and run potential of its predecessor, but the combination of range and mobility still allows for a focused first strike that will give a decisive edge against pretty much any force of comparable size and technology.
Legion (Rome) - 26
Malón Raider (Mapuche) - 23
Mamluk (Arabia) - 26
Minas Geraes (Brazil) - 23
Ngao Mbeba (Kongo) - 21
Okihtcitaw (Cree) - 4
Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 27
Redcoat (England/Victoria) - 21
Rough Rider (America/Teddy Roosevelt) - 11
Sea Dog (England) - 8
Saka Horse Archer (Scythia) - 8
Samurai (Japan) - 14
Varu (India) - 22
Viking Longship (Norway/Harald Hardrada) - 21
War-Cart (Sumer) - 26

 

[BenitoChavez]

Conquistador (Spain) - 21
Cossack (Russia) - 22
De Zeven Provinciën (Netherlands) - 22 = 21 + 1. Does what frigates do, only better. Decimates cities so that melee units can take them.
Digger (Australia) - 20
Domrey (Khmer) - 22
Eagle Warrior (Aztec) - 29
Garde Imperiale (France) - 21
Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) - 20
Hoplite (Greece) - 22
Hwacha (Korea) - 21
Hypaspist (Macedon) - 20
Immortal (Persia) - 21
Impi (Zulu) - 19
Jong (Indonesia) - 25
Keshig (Mongolia) - 21
Legion (Rome) - 26
Malón Raider (Mapuche) - 23
Mamluk (Arabia) - 26
Minas Geraes (Brazil) - 23
Ngao Mbeba (Kongo) - 21
Okihtcitaw (Cree) - 4
Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 27
Redcoat (England/Victoria) - 21
Rough Rider (America/Teddy Roosevelt) - 11
Sea Dog (England) - 8
Saka Horse Archer (Scythia) - 8
Samurai (Japan) - 14
Varu (India) - 22
Viking Longship (Norway/Harald Hardrada) - 18 = 21 - 3. Being able to pillage and steal civilian units sounds great in theory, but it comes too early to be of much practical use, even on mainly water maps.
War-Cart (Sumer) - 26

 

[shadow8803]

Conquistador (Spain) - 21
Cossack (Russia) - 22
De Zeven Provinciën (Netherlands) - 22
Digger (Australia) - 20
Domrey (Khmer) - 22
Eagle Warrior (Aztec) - 29
Garde Imperiale (France) - 21
Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) - 20
Hoplite (Greece) - 22
Hwacha (Korea) - 22 (21+1) I'll throw another vote here. The Hwacha is a strong unit, useful through crossbows and field cannons.
Hypaspist (Macedon) - 20
Immortal (Persia) - 21
Impi (Zulu) - 19
Jong (Indonesia) - 25
Keshig (Mongolia) - 21
Legion (Rome) - 26
Malón Raider (Mapuche) - 23
Mamluk (Arabia) - 26
Minas Geraes (Brazil) - 23
Ngao Mbeba (Kongo) - 21
Okihtcitaw (Cree) - 4
Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 27
Redcoat (England/Victoria) - 21
Rough Rider (America/Teddy Roosevelt) - 11
Sea Dog (England) - 5 (8-3) My previous post explains my feelings on this one.
Saka Horse Archer (Scythia) - 8
Samurai (Japan) - 14
Varu (India) - 22
Viking Longship (Norway/Harald Hardrada) - 18
War-Cart (Sumer) - 26

 

[eleven11]

Conquistador (Spain) - 21
Cossack (Russia) - 22
De Zeven Provinciën (Netherlands) - 22
Digger (Australia) - 20
Domrey (Khmer) - 22
Eagle Warrior (Aztec) - 29
Garde Imperiale (France) - 21
Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) - 20
Hoplite (Greece) - 22
Hwacha (Korea) - 21
Hypaspist (Macedon) - 20
Immortal (Persia) - 21
Impi (Zulu) - 19
Jong (Indonesia) - 25
Keshig (Mongolia) - 21
Legion (Rome) - 26
Malón Raider (Mapuche) - 23
Mamluk (Arabia) - 26
Minas Geraes (Brazil) - 23
Ngao Mbeba (Kongo) - 21
Okihtcitaw (Cree) - 4
Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 28 = 27 + 1. Early, movement bonus, decent attack, faster leveling. Good for peaceful play and domination. Can even withhold upgrading for awhile to keep movement bonus because of promoted double attacks.
Redcoat (England/Victoria) - 21
Rough Rider (America/Teddy Roosevelt) - 11
Sea Dog (England) - 8
Saka Horse Archer (Scythia) - 5 = 8 -3. In trouble when swordsman start showing up (unless used very judiciously). Complete toast when knights and xbows appear. Upgrade is 1000+ years away.
Samurai (Japan) - 14
Varu (India) - 22
Viking Longship (Norway/Harald Hardrada) - 18
War-Cart (Sumer) - 26

1st time doing this. Hope I didn't screw up.

 

[Leathaface]

Conquistador (Spain) - 21
Cossack (Russia) - 22
De Zeven Provinciën (Netherlands) - 22
Digger (Australia) - 20
Domrey (Khmer) - 22
Eagle Warrior (Aztec) - 29
Garde Imperiale (France) - 22 (21 + 1)
Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) - 20
Hoplite (Greece) - 22
Hwacha (Korea) - 21
Hypaspist (Macedon) - 20
Immortal (Persia) - 21
Impi (Zulu) - 19
Jong (Indonesia) - 25
Keshig (Mongolia) - 21
Legion (Rome) - 26
Malón Raider (Mapuche) - 23
Mamluk (Arabia) - 26
Minas Geraes (Brazil) - 23
Ngao Mbeba (Kongo) - 21
Okihtcitaw (Cree) - 1 (4 - 3)
Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 28
Redcoat (England/Victoria) - 21
Rough Rider (America/Teddy Roosevelt) - 11
Sea Dog (England) - 8
Saka Horse Archer (Scythia) - 5
Varu (India) - 22
Viking Longship (Norway/Harald Hardrada) - 18
War-Cart (Sumer) - 26

 

[Kimiimaro]

@Leathaface, what are your reasons?

 

[Leathaface]

I just don't feel the Okihtcitaw is a good unique unit. It takes a lot of promotions for it to get enough combat strength to compete in combat efficiently, I would've preferred the Cree's UU to be something else.

The Garde Imperiale has a lot of combat strength, plus even more on it's home continent. Untouchable for it's time on it's home continent.

 

[Liufeng]

Conquistador (Spain) - 21
Cossack (Russia) - 22
De Zeven Provinciën (Netherlands) - 22
Digger (Australia) - 20
Domrey (Khmer) - 22
Eagle Warrior (Aztec) - 29
Garde Imperiale (France) - 22
Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) - 20
Hoplite (Greece) - 22
Hwacha (Korea) - 21
Hypaspist (Macedon) - 20
Immortal (Persia) - 21
Impi (Zulu) - 19
Jong (Indonesia) - 25
Keshig (Mongolia) - 21
Legion (Rome) - 26
Malón Raider (Mapuche) - 23
Mamluk (Arabia) - 26
Minas Geraes (Brazil) - 23
Ngao Mbeba (Kongo) - 21
Okihtcitaw (Cree) - 1 - 3 = 0 ELIMINATED it gets quickly old, and not very useful
Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 28
Redcoat (England/Victoria) - 21
Rough Rider (America/Teddy Roosevelt) - 11
Sea Dog (England) - 8
Saka Horse Archer (Scythia) - 5
Varu (India) - 22
Viking Longship (Norway/Harald Hardrada) - 18
War-Cart (Sumer) - 26 + 1 = 27 A very powerful (OP) early game unit, unlike some other eliminated

 

[OneMoreTurnPerTile]

Conquistador (Spain) - 21
Cossack (Russia) - 22
De Zeven Provinciën (Netherlands) - 22
Digger (Australia) - 20
Domrey (Khmer) - 22
Eagle Warrior (Aztec) - 29
Garde Imperiale (France) - 22
Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) - 20
Hoplite (Greece) - 22
Hwacha (Korea) - 21
Hypaspist (Macedon) - 20
Immortal (Persia) - 21-1=20 They took one of the best units in the game and nerfed it into oblivion. A swordsman who can't take a city is just useless.
Impi (Zulu) - 19
Jong (Indonesia) - 25
Keshig (Mongolia) - 21
Legion (Rome) - 26
Malón Raider (Mapuche) - 23
Mamluk (Arabia) - 26
Minas Geraes (Brazil) - 23
Ngao Mbeba (Kongo) - 21
Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 28
Redcoat (England/Victoria) - 21
Rough Rider (America/Teddy Roosevelt) - 11
Sea Dog (England) - 8
Saka Horse Archer (Scythia) - 5
Varu (India) - 22
Viking Longship (Norway/Harald Hardrada) - 18
War-Cart (Sumer) - 27+1=28 Playing with war carts feels like I'm playing a test version of the game. They're faster, stronger and available earlier, with no resource requirements. Ridiculous unit.

 

[Mr. Shadows]

Conquistador (Spain) - 21
Cossack (Russia) - 22
De Zeven Provinciën (Netherlands) - 22
Digger (Australia) - 20
Domrey (Khmer) - 22
Eagle Warrior (Aztec) - 29
Garde Imperiale (France) - 22
Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) - 20
Hoplite (Greece) - 22
Hwacha (Korea) - 22 fixed
Hypaspist (Macedon) - 20
Immortal (Persia) - 21-3=18 fixed
Impi (Zulu) - 19
Jong (Indonesia) - 25
Keshig (Mongolia) - 21
Legion (Rome) - 26+1=27 If this unit were Rome's only bonus they would still be a force to be reckoned with, as it is they synergize nicely with free roads and early Oligarchy.
Malón Raider (Mapuche) - 23
Mamluk (Arabia) - 26
Minas Geraes (Brazil) - 23
Ngao Mbeba (Kongo) - 21
Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 28
Redcoat (England/Victoria) - 21
Rough Rider (America/Teddy Roosevelt) - 11
Sea Dog (England) - 5 fixed
Saka Horse Archer (Scythia) - 5-3=2 These guys are useless, and less fun to use than others that have already been eliminated.
Varu (India) - 22
Viking Longship (Norway/Harald Hardrada) - 18
War-Cart (Sumer) - 28

 

[Kimiimaro]

@OneMoreTurnPerTile, you take away three points. Also, isn't it the opposite way? I thought they were only archers with higher melee strength, but they eventually recieved the melee attack. I might be wrong tho.

 

[shadow8803]

@Kimiimaro, I don't believe my vote from earlier was counted. Hwacha should be at 22 and Sea Dog should be at 5.

 

[OneMoreTurnPerTile]

@OneMoreTurnPerTile, you take away three points. Also, isn't it the opposite way? I thought they were only archers with higher melee strength, but they eventually recieved the melee attack. I might be wrong tho.

It was that way, but they nerfed them in a patch a few months back. Maybe they reverted them back?