Unofficial Civ IV Expansion Announced:

[UnspokenRequest]

You mean like the game proper? If that affects all of Canada, I will hijack a B2 and bomb Quebec. I get all my game imports from Canada ever since Sony shut down Lik-Sang.

No Quebec law only. However, I'm not even sure it has passed yet. I just heard about it on the news a few weeks ago.

I don't think it will change anything for the rest of Canada. Except that maybe it will be easier for Francophones living outside Quebec (there are plenty of them btw. a bit less than 2 millions I think) to get a game in their own language.

For Quebec, the English version will still be available. As Anglophones living in Quebec will surely want the English version, I am sure they won't have any trouble finding it. It's just that for the Quebec territory the game developpers will now have to offer a French version as an alternative to the English version.

This is hardly something new for many non-anglophone countries. France has games in french and I'm sure it's the same for most countries.

Just so you know: French canadians represents about 1/3 of the population of Canada. And it used to be 1/2 not so long ago. That these people can get goods and services in their language is not a luxury.

 

[UnspokenRequest]

French jokes just remain funny
It's like jokes about dumb blondes (their IQ matches that of the average frenchman i geuss )

It has been a very long while since I found a blonde joke funny. For me, once a joke is unoriginal it ceases to be funny.

I live in Belgium, Speak Dutch and French and have my French friends, so please don't take this offensively

I'm not offended, just fed up. Jokes about a particular group of people are funny at first. After 4 years, they are just unoriginal lip-service to a certain idea of France that is full of prejudices.
And compared to blonde jokes, I don't like the ignorance that French jokes contribute to spread.

 

[FuRRie]

You're just saying blonde jokes are fine cause i'm not blonde, french jokes are bad cause i speak fench ...

 

[KMadCandy]

MIss You use some funny saying from time to time. A kittin smitten a guy with "silly goose" comments for petes sakes.

you don't say silly goose? well i'll be! the one i had to make myself stop saying and type is "a hoot and a hollar". people apparently just don't say that and i get funny looks. okay, more funny looks than usual. you can guess i'm quite used to funny looks, i get a kick out of 'em

KmadCandy is on to something with Gppl popping from huts. Conan the Barbarian, the Geico Caveman, Chewbaca. Settling gives -2 and +50% from pillaging. Use Conan to gain automatic control over any infiltrated barb city.

oh i like that! how about "Goodish People" that have a positive and a negative, like the one you posted. and "Decent People" who can start a "Boring Age", only effect of that would be no barbs can enter your borders. only ever takes one to start a Boring Age. if you have the great wall, well, then it's realllllllly boring for you, neener neener! oh, call it a Boring Stretch-of-time so we can shorten it to BS. GishPs and DPs can only be popped from huts, but huts keep respawning on those low levels. but (maybe as an option you can turn off) sometimes they can spawn barbs with tech way higher than any civ has? might be exciting!

 

[Kark]

Don't waste time discussing what's funny and what's not. Some of us are trying to develop an Unofficial Civ IV Expansion.

Civ: The Masochist Empire

Leader: Leopold von Sacher-Masoch.
Traits: Submissive, Paraphiliac.
Unique unit: Flagellant.
Unique building: ?

Unit: Flagellant

Unique for The Masochist Empire.
Prereq: Whipping.
Strength: -2
Special abilities: Only selfinflicted damage.

 

[frob2900]

This doesn't make much sense. Why make it a technology if everyone starts with it?

The barbs wouldn't have it. Which means barb spearmen will appear later

 

[50_dollar_bag]

Firstly, to all those who took it seriously . Maybe my sense of humour is a bit too dry for some people especially for those who have English as a second language.

Secondly, UnspokenRequest, I meant no disrespect to French people (to be honest I actually thought I'd taken it out as I didn't want to get an Infraction) I have no problem with them at all, I only put it in because I saw on the Discovery Channel that Neaderthals used to live in Modern day France until the nasty humans came along.

Thirdly I was only trying to make light of some of the many arguments I see on the forums regarding Beyond the Sword. Sure it's not perfect at the moment but surely the new patch will fix it They must be almost half way there thanks to Solver's patch.

Anyway, some good ideas so far. I like the one about unescorted settlers and the automatic Barbarian spawn, that ones going in.
The opposable thumbs idea was pretty good too but it's beyond the scope of the expansion.
Conan... hmmm maybe the starting warrior can be automatically named Conan.
CivFanatic wonder. Close to an idea about a wonder I had, Civilization Franchise, +1 in every city but each tile has generates less might be more of a corporation though.
I've also been thinking about a wonder in the Civ 3 vein, kind of like the Cure for Cancer but I'd call it the "Cure for 'one more turn'". Obviously has a good synergy with the Civ Franchise.

I'm also trying to find a way to get Chuck Norris in the game...

 

[Peng Qi]

Prereq.: Square wheel.
Cost 30
Strength 4
Movement 0

THAT IS SO BROKEN OMG. How can you possibly kill one of those with a Discoverer of Fire?

 

[UnspokenRequest]

Secondly, UnspokenRequest, I meant no disrespect to French people (to be honest I actually thought I'd taken it out as I didn't want to get an Infraction) I have no problem with them at all, I only put it in because I saw on the Discovery Channel that Neaderthals used to live in Modern day France until the nasty humans came along.

I'm sure you have no problem with French most people making these jokes don't (a few do though). I've seen so many of them on so many boards. Your joke just happened to be straw that broke the camel's back.
Sorry for making it an issue. I really like your kind of humour by the way

 

[Duuk]

Lol i'm gonna sig that.

WHy thank you!

 

[Kark]

THAT IS SO BROKEN OMG. How can you possibly kill one of those with a Discoverer of Fire?

By using the UU of The Sadist Empire.

 

[Kark]

Thirdly I was only trying to make light of some of the many arguments I see on the forums regarding Beyond the Sword.

Good work.

But I think even the League of Corinth comes to late for an early Diplomatic Victory, so I think you should seriously consider including the Great Camp Fire Diplo Vic in your expansion.

And of course The Masochist Empire. But I have some work to do on the traits.

 

[Dennis_Moore]

Secondly, UnspokenRequest, I meant no disrespect to French people (to be honest I actually thought I'd taken it out as I didn't want to get an Infraction) I have no problem with them at all, I only put it in because I saw on the Discovery Channel that Neaderthals used to live in Modern day France until the nasty humans came along.

True, even though Neanderthal (Neander valley) is located in Germany, the largest concentration of Neanderthal fossils can be found in France, as can be seen on this map.






Hmm, on this map it looks like the British Neanderthals lived under the ice, well that gives a whole new meaning to the expression "stiff upper lip".

(FYI, I know the lines marks the maximum extent of the glaciers)

 

[Kark]

The map looks impressive. Why not include The Neanderthal Empire in the new expansion?

 

[Spearthrower]

I've got some interesting papers here claiming that Neanderthals survived up to around 1000 years ago in northern europe, that the Sphinx is meant to represent the cross-breeding between Cro-Magnon and Neanderthal and that Europeans are a branch of humanity that bred with Neanderthals...

But a lot of people still dont understand that Neanderthals aren't the lumbering, intellectually challenged sub-species that they've been portrayed as.... actually, in many cases their brain size was as much as 25% bigger than modern humans (not that it indicates direct intelligence, but it certainly wasn't redundant matter either) and that they had highly symbolic and structured societies.

 

[Evil Twin]

The thing about Neanderthals is.. we wiped them out.
And we wiped them out so long ago that it's never going to be politically correct to include them in civ (unlike say the "Native American" Empire).

 

[Spearthrower]

We may not have wiped them out at all.... it seems more and more likely that we bred them out.

 

[Dennis_Moore]

I've got some interesting papers here claiming that Neanderthals survived up to around 1000 years ago in northern europe, that the Sphinx is meant to represent the cross-breeding between Cro-Magnon and Neanderthal and that Europeans are a branch of humanity that bred with Neanderthals...

But a lot of people still dont understand that Neanderthals aren't the lumbering, intellectually challenged sub-species that they've been portrayed as.... actually, in many cases their brain size was as much as 25% bigger than modern humans (not that it indicates direct intelligence, but it certainly wasn't redundant matter either) and that they had highly symbolic and structured societies.

Yes, but could they throw spears?

 

[Evil Twin]

We may not have wiped them out at all.... it seems more and more likely that we bred them out.

I mean as a culture. Regardless of when they were bred out as a species, they were assimilated long before that.

 

[Kark]

The thing about Neanderthals is.. we wiped them out.

Let's include them in Civ 4 and wipe them out once more, as we wipes out everybody else.

But I've trouble with the starting techs. Should they possibly be the only civ without Fire?