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[NovaKart]

Not atm.


All my friends who have visited America say you basically deep-fry everything in cheese. That's not good.


Hollywood is the sore blister of horrible motion pictures right now. It ruins great ideas repeatingly. Once every year or so, the area manages to squeeze out one or two decent movies - practically the same number of good pictures coming out of European countries. You should praise Hollywood once they decide not to babe everything anymore. It's a stupid profit-maximizing discourse for stupid people.

This is the problem, people comment about America when the only knowledge they have about the country is fast food and blockbuster Hollywood films. How many independent American films have people seen? Deep fry everything in cheese? Did they just eat at one restaurant the whole time?

 

[Angst]

This is the problem, people comment about America when the only knowledge they have about the country is fast food and blockbuster Hollywood films. How many independent American films have people seen? Deep fry everything in cheese? Did they just eat at one restaurant the whole time?

I don't think you read my post throughoutly. At all. You're talking about different things.

I didn't attack American independent films, I just said that Hollywood was basically worthless. You assume that I'm talking about American pictures in general. Your strawman even attributed my statements to America in general. So perhaps you should start reading my post properly before grouping me with such a detestable generalization.

Why do you talk about restaurants and fast food? I'm talking about the food that their host families made at home. The general trend was to be indifferent about either sugar or fat. If it wasn't powdered up with one, it was drenched in the other. I was told they ate Kellogg's kids meals for breakfast if not cake. My friends didn't like the food the families ate because it was so fatty.

 

[Cutlass]

All my friends who have visited America say you basically deep-fry everything in cheese. That's not good.

That's not true. What is true is that ethnic food from around the world available in the US tends to be "Ameicanized". Which is to say some ingredients are replaced by ones common in America rather than what was used in the country of origin. And other things are toned down. But as a whole the food available in the US is very diverse and of high quality for reasonable prices compared to much of the rest of the world.

 

[Angst]

That's not true. What is true is that ethnic food from around the world available in the US tends to be "Ameicanized". Which is to say some ingredients are replaced by ones common in America rather than what was used in the country of origin. And other things are toned down. But as a whole the food available in the US is very diverse and of high quality for reasonable prices compared to much of the rest of the world.

I'm happy to hear that.

 

[NovaKart]

I don't think you read my post throughoutly. At all. You're talking about different things.

I didn't attack American independent films, I just said that Hollywood was basically worthless. You assume that I'm talking about American pictures in general. Your strawman even attributed my statements to America in general. So perhaps you should start reading my post properly before grouping me with such a detestable generalization.

Why do you talk about restaurants and fast food? I'm talking about the food that their host families made at home. The general trend was to be indifferent about either sugar or fat. If it wasn't powdered up with one, it was drenched in the other. I was told they ate Kellogg's kids meals for breakfast if not cake. My friends didn't like the food the families ate because it was so fatty.

I'm so sick of the term strawman and it's hardly ever used appropriately. When someone compares American Hollywood films with Europe it makes sense to bring up Hollywood films. I'd also say the ratio of good films is at least higher than 2 although we are talking about something subjective.

I have to say, I've never met anyone who only makes deep-fried cheese in their home, they must have had some interesting placements.

 

[Narz]

I don't know jack about health? You haven't really shown yourself to be a fountain of knowledge either. Linking to books on amazon.com doesn't really make you an expert. Your posts are so full of this "evil corporate" "natural is pure" crap that I can practically smell the patchouli oil from here.

Natural isn't always pure & corporate isn't always bad. 90% of your posts are just insulting poor attempts at humor.

HFCS isn't significantly different from sucrose

They're both equally bad.

and neither grows on trees

You don't say.

both are processed. Parents should limit all kinds of sugar and stop being lazy and blaming the government or corporations for their kids being fat.

Well you telling stressed out parents who don't know any better they "should" is sure to help. What do you know about raising kids? Why don't you go volunteer & teach them they way of strength?

It's like parents crying about what's on TV when they can just turn off the TV or change the channel.

It's not actually like that because you can not own a TV but you can't not own food & if you're broke you really can't afford good stuff & if everyone & their mother is offering your kid junk the kid is going to feel deprived at home & it's going to create conflict.

And sorry, but it's hard to take what you say seriously when you think food is actually causing violence.

There is research suggesting that poor nutrition leads to more violence. It upsets your ignorant worldview so you "can't take me seriously"? Alright then. I'm out. It's like debating a brick. Bricks don't grow on trees by the way so stop saying they do.

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[Quackers]

Not atm.


All my friends who have visited America say you basically deep-fry everything in cheese. That's not good.


Hollywood is the sore blister of horrible motion pictures right now. It ruins great ideas repeatingly. Once every year or so, the area manages to squeeze out one or two decent movies - practically the same number of good pictures coming out of European countries. You should praise Hollywood once they decide not to babe everything anymore. It's a stupid profit-maximizing discourse for stupid people.

Well it's true that American salaries are probably only at 2006-2007 levels because of the recession it's still enough to have a high standard of living like in other devoloped nations. Do you dispute that?

Yeah thats not true, hehe. America has every cuisine in the world and has it's own unique food culture which is pretty unhealthy but delicious.

I agree that most of the films which come out of Hollywood is absolute crap but you do get plenty of excellent gems quite frequently. I'm not going to turn it into a bitter Europe vs America debate btw...

 

[NovaKart]

Natural isn't always pure & corporate isn't always bad. 90% of your posts are just insulting poor attempts at humor.


They're both equally bad.


You don't say.


Well you telling stressed out parents who don't know any better they "should" is sure to help. What do you know about raising kids? Why don't you go volunteer & teach them they way of strength?


It's not actually like that because you can not own a TV but you can't not own food & if you're broke you really can't afford good stuff & if everyone & their mother is offering your kid junk the kid is going to feel deprived at home & it's going to create conflict.


There is research suggesting that poor nutrition leads to more violence. It upsets your ignorant worldview so you "can't take me seriously"? Alright then. I'm out. It's like debating a brick. Bricks don't grow on trees by the way so stop saying they do.

Are you suggesting people just cut out sugar from their diet entirely? Is that realistic? Again you're coming across as the cotton mather of the organic health movement.

I'd like to cry a river over stressed out parents who are about to collapse over the stress of candy and fast food advertisements. Apparently they can't manage the one syllable word "no". You seem to think that people are zombies who have no free will and can only follow billboards and commercials.

People can actually cook and make intelligent food choices. It has to do with education, not a lack of options. It's not easy but then what is?

There's research that suggests lots of bogus crap, doesn't make it true. Not everything that goes against your opinion is ignorant, you're not really an indigo child.

 

[Abegweit]

Are you suggesting people just cut out sugar from their diet entirely? Is that realistic?

I cut it out. Aside from a bit in the odd sauce here and there, my intake of sugar is essentially zero. And that of other carbs is nearly so. Today I had four eggs with bacon for breakfast and a beef stew for dinner. The stew had some onions and carrots for flavour. That's probably more carbs than I eat on a typical day. My health has improved enormously since I quit eating the crap six years ago, and I have lost 20 pounds too (could afford to lose another 10 or so).

People talk endlessly about the evil of sugar and fat. But fat on its own is satiating. Trying pigging out on butter. You can't do it. Binging requires sugar or some other carb. People don't seem to have a limit for sugar. Once you build the sugar into the product, you can add fats into to mixture (think ice cream or, as mentioned earlier, twinkies). Or salt. Or other things people like. But binging has to start with sugar.

Incidentally, why on earth do people think that fruits are healthy? They are nothing but sugar and fructose is even worse for you than sucrose or HFCS.

 

[Angst]

I'm so sick of the term strawman

Then don't make one.

I have to say, I've never met anyone who only makes deep-fried cheese in their home, they must have had some interesting placements.

It's not the only lifestyle eccentricies of the people they lived by. People seemed to drive everywhere, fx, never walked or bicycled almost regardless of the distance.

 

[NovaKart]

I didn't, you made a strawman out of a strawman

Yeah if you go to a different country you see people do things differently, no big surprise there.

 

[Angst]

I talked about Hollywood, you counterargued with indie productions, assuming I framed American film production overall.

Also...

"Wanna go to the mall?"
"Yeah it's like five hundred metres up the road."
"Let's drive there."

 

[_random_]

Natural isn't always pure & corporate isn't always bad. 90% of your posts are just insulting poor attempts at humor.

Well, he's gotten you good and pissed, which is always pretty funny.

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[NovaKart]

I talked about Hollywood, you counterargued with indie productions, assuming I framed American film production overall.

Also...

"Wanna go to the mall?"
"Yeah it's like five hundred metres up the road."
"Let's drive there."

And that's a straw man? Like most people on the internet you overuse that and have a poor understanding of what it really means.

People in America don't use the metric system so that should be your first clue to the second point.

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[Angst]

And that's a straw man? Like most people on the internet you overuse that and have a poor understanding of what it really means.

Sure, if you really want to, I can cave in and we can still mutually acknowledge your reading of my post was detestable at best.

People in America don't use the metric system so that should be your first clue to the second point.

That's not the point.

 

[Cutlass]

It's not the only lifestyle eccentricies of the people they lived by. People seemed to drive everywhere, fx, never walked or bicycled almost regardless of the distance.

Well it is true that we drive too much. But over time we've designed a country that makes walking impractical for large parts of the population. So there's a self reinforcing problem going on there.

 

[NovaKart]

When you compare Hollywood films with European films and don't make any mention of independent American films it's a fair point to assume you haven't seen any. Which American indie films have you seen by the way? If you want people to understand your posts try to be a bit more specific.

 

[Abegweit]

Well it is true that we drive too much. But over time we've designed a country that makes walking impractical for large parts of the population. So there's a self reinforcing problem going on there.

Who is this "we" you are referring to? Did you personally design it?

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[NovaKart]

Well it is true that we drive too much. But over time we've designed a country that makes walking impractical for large parts of the population. So there's a self reinforcing problem going on there.

That's true, I once lived in an apartment complex across from a shopping center which I really couldn't walk to because a major highway separated the two. I tried it once and it took like half an hour.

Are we really going to argue over the use of the impersonal we.

 

[Cutlass]

Who is this "we" you are referring to? Did you personally design it?

The collective we of the people of the country for several generations now.