Visionary Wonders Thread

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This is a thread to suggest some visionary wonders, that being wonders that were planned by historic societies but never constructed for whatever reason.

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Volkshalle
Requires Totalitarianism and Secularism

Whipping gives Great Person points in the city Volkshalle was built in.
+6 Great Artist points

Commentary: Volkshalle was the Nazi German project for Berlin planned for the post-war victory. This is represented by Totalitarianism and Secularism, and if possible I'd say a settled great general in the city. The reference to whipping is due to Albert Speer's role in the Nazi slavery program, and serves to connect that with an idea of lots of post-war Europe being whipped to help serve the central govt in Berlin.

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Palace of the Soviets
Requires State Party

+25% trade route profit with Communist countries.
+6 Great Engineer points.

Commentary: The Palace of the Soviets was envisioned as a statement of revolutionary success in the Soviet Union, but was also an international effort designed to bring attention to the USSR. This is represented by the trade route affect, you could also add in positive relations with Communist countries.

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Other possible ones:
Prora (civ 5 reference anyone)
Chicago (The) Spire
Big Bend
Bionic Tower
Third Temple of Jerusalem
Gibraltar Dam (??)
 
I have to add to this list:
"Il Ponte sullo Stretto"
the bridge to connect Sicily to the continent: it should be the longest suspended bridge of the world, over the more sismic zone of the whole Europe.

What can go wrong?
 
I really like this idea, but I wonder if we should distinguish between 'alt-history wonders' (eg, Volkshalle) that exist within a single city, vs. 'Megastructures' (like the Gibraltar Dam or Ponte sullo Stretto) that have a broader impact on the landscape itself. 'Megastructures' might include real-world wonders like dams and canals, where the wonder effect primarily impacts the map itself. The Aswan Dam, for instance, made a lake of the upper Nile, and eliminated the annual flooding of the lower Nile banks -- both of which can be represented by a script that directly alters the map terrain. The Suez Canal could auto-place an improvement (with properties similar to a fort) that enable a ship to pass through the relevant land tile. Heck, you could even include pre-modern wonders like the Qhapac Ñan, that would generate a special road-like improvement to allow Incan units to move along the Andes mountains.
 
Id argue against bridge/tunnel type wonders, hypothetical and planned megabridges/tunnels are quite common nowadays.
 
Just trying to think of some unfinished structures that aren't recent. I came up with the following that would have been architecturally significant:

The Alai Minar (would have been the tallest minaret in the world)
The Great Temple of the Aten (likely would have been the largest building of the pre-classical world)
Duomo Nuovo of Siena (not as sure about this one but it is famously unfinished)
 
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I think this topic would deserve a greater audience (I found it only accidentally). Maybe a thread in Creation & Customization or in Graphics Modpacs would be a good idea, so people could create stuff for these: Models and wonder movies. I'd probably do a few or more movies ;)
 
Oh neat! That would be cool. Feel free to start a thread in those forums.

And if you're looking for movies to create, DoC has a bunch of wonders that currently lack any form of movie or even static image on completion.
 
And if you're looking for movies to create, DoC has a bunch of wonders that currently lack any form of movie or even static image on completion.
Give me a list, please. I'll see if I get inspired.
Also you should check my wonder movies thread: :cooool: Nexus CinematiX :scan:
Maybe I have already created something you need.
 
I have thrown together a quick spreadsheet with all the new wonders that currently have no wonder video with some notes on existing sources. I noted that you have Cheomseongdae and Gardens by the Bay, I can include them in time (or someone helps me out with a pull request). I have not yet taken the time to scour other mods and the DB for videos for each of them, since many here are taken from other mods or wonder packs, it is entirely possible that they already have movies or static images. However, some wonders are unique to DoC as far as I am aware, so there is definitely something left to do.

Here is the sheet (@Zeta Nexus just in case you're not following the thread). Here is another thread about the topic, for context. And with that I will not derail this thread any further.
 
In my mod I have 162 wonder movies - like Motherland Calls that I saw on your list.
A great portion of them is from other mods - imported either by the AND2 Team or later by me.

Spoiler My wonders folder :

AbuSimbel.bik
Academy.bik
Acropolis.bik
adamsmith.bik
AIEntity.bik
Akashic_Records.bik
alhambra.bik
Altamira.bik
AmusementPark.bik
Apadana.bik
Apollo.bik
ApolloProject.bik
Art_Of_War.bik
Babel.bik
Bach.bik
Bank.bik
BasilicaCistern.bik
Bauhaus.bik
BigBen.bik
Blarney.bik
Bolshoi.bik
Brandenburg.bik
BurjAlArab.bik
BurningMan.bik
Cancer.bik
Carhenge.bik
Carthage_Port.bik
CDC.bik
CentralBank.bik
Cheomseongdae.bik
CircusMaximus.bik
CivTv.bik
CommercialSatellites.bik
Copernicus.bik
Crusade.bik
CrystalPalace.bik
Curia.bik
DeepCoreMine.bik
DinoPark.bik
Djenne.bik
EastIndiaCompany.bik
Eden.bik
edinburgh castle.bik
edisons workshop.bik
Einstein.bik
EmpireStateBuilding.bik
Encyclopedie.bik
Evolution.bik
FederalReserve.bik
FirstNuclearTest.bik
Flavian.bik
ForbiddenPalace.bik
FusionPowerPlant.bik
GardensBay.bik
GardensByTheBay.bik
GateOfTheSun.bik
GlobeTheatre.bik
GoldenSpike.bik
Great_Canal.bik
Great_Firewall.bik
GreatFirewall.bik
Greekfire.bik
HanseaticLeague.bik
Hermitage.bik
Heroic Epic.bik
HeroicEpic.bik
HillTara.bik
HimejiCastle.bik
Hippocratic.bik
HockeyNight.bik
Hubble.bik
HumanGenome.bik
Hundertwasser.bik
IndependenceHall.bik
Interpol.bik
IronWorks.bik
Ishtar.bik
ISS.bik
ItsukushimaShrine.bik
JaguarTemple.bik
Karnak.bik
Knox.bik
Kotoku-in.bik
LaborUnion.bik
Labyrinth.bik
Lascaux.bik
Lascaux Caves.bik
LasVegas.bik
LasVegasStrip_StaticMovie.bik
Leonardos_Workshop.bik
Limes.bik
longevity.bik
Louvre.bik
MachuPicchu.bik
Magellan.bik
MalleusMaleficarum.bik
marcopolo.bik
MilitaryAcademy.bik
MintPress.bik
MISSILE_DEFENCE_I.bik
MoaiStatues.bik
MotherlandCalls.bik
NaniteDefuser.bik
NationalBroadcastingCompany.bik
NationalEpic.bik
NationalPark.bik
NationalShield.bik
NazcaLines.bik
NeuschwansteinCastle.bik
newton.bik
Olympics.bik
OrbitalHotel.bik
OxfordUniversity.bik
Parliament.bik
ParticleAccelerator.bik
Penicillin.bik
Petra.bik
PetraMonastery.bik
Pisa.bik
plato.bik
PleistocenePark.bik
PontDuGard.bik
PorcelainTower.bik
PROPAGANDA.bik
QuantumTheory.bik
RedCross.bik
Refinery.bik
Reichstag.bik
Rialto.bik
RosettaStone.bik
rushmore.bik
SacrificialPyramid.bik
SanMarco.bik
ScotlandYard.bik
SDI.bik
SecretArmyBase.bik
Sensorium.bik
Seti.bik
ShaolinMonastery.bik
SilkRoad.bik
Sphinx.bik
SpySatellite.bik
SupremeCourt.bik
SydneyOperaHouse.bik
TerraCotta.bik
TheAgency.bik
TheatreOfDionysus.bik
TimeTunnel.bik
TrafalgarSquare.bik
Treasury.bik
UniversalTranslator.bik
VenetianArsenal.bik
Venus_of_Willendorf.bik
ViaAppia.bik
VMadisonAvenue.bik
WallStreet.bik
WestPoint.bik
WillowRun.bik
woman.bik
Woodstock.bik
wtc.bik
ZOrbital.bik
apadana_mv.dds
Dosanseowon_mv.dds
Kotoku_in.dds
edinburgh castle.jpg
 
Oh that's great. I have made a note to go through them and compare where they could be used.
 
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