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[RD] War in Gaza: News Thread

Israeli activists battle over Gaza-bound aid convoys​

The war in Gaza is being fought on many fronts.
One of them is aid.
Months after some Israelis started to protest against aid lorries entering Gaza at the main Kerem Shalom crossing, the battle has moved to other key junctions, where rival groups of activists do their best to block or protect aid convoys.
In recent weeks, social media has been flooded with images of aid lorries being blocked and ransacked.
Right-wing activists, including Jewish settlers living in the occupied West Bank, have uploaded dozens of videos of crowds, including some very young children, hurling food onto the ground and stamping on boxes of aid.
“It’s important to stop the aid,” one activist says. “It’s the only way we’ll win. The only way we’ll get our hostages back.”
Many argue that Gazans should receive nothing while Israeli hostages remain in captivity, and that providing aid to Gaza merely serves to prolong the war.
In one video, a group of jubilant protesters dance and celebrate on top of a looted lorry.
In another, one of the stranded lorries is ablaze.
Other videos show Israeli vigilantes stopping lorries in Jerusalem and demanding that drivers show papers proving they are not transporting aid to Gaza. Their faces are uncovered and they appear to be acting with complete impunity.
In the West Bank, at least two drivers who were not carrying goods bound for Gaza were dragged from their cabs and beaten.
Palestinian lorry drivers say they’re traumatised.
“I’m terrified to reach the crossing point,” Adel Amro told the BBC.
“I fear for my life.”
Mr Amro was carrying commercially purchased goods from the West Bank to Gaza when he was set upon. Other targeted drivers are involved in transporting aid from Jordan, which has to cross the West Bank and Israel before it reaches Gaza.
“We’re now taking side roads, far from the main routes, because we fear the aggressiveness of the settlers,” he said.

But after a series of well-documented attacks, some Israelis are fighting back.
Peace activists have taken to tracking their opponents’ movements on social media and making sure they’re present at key crossing points.
At Tarqumiya checkpoint, where lorries enter Israel from the southern West Bank, members of the group Standing Together are now mounting regular vigils.
Tarqumiya was the scene of one of the most dramatic recent attacks.
“People in Gaza are starving and aid should get to Gaza,” said Suf Patishi, one of Standing Together’s founding members.
“Israeli society should say in a loud and clear voice that we are opposed to these acts,” he said of the recent attacks on convoys.
“It’s not a lot to ask, not to die from hunger, you know.”

The group brings together Jews and Arabs from all over Israel.
For Nasser Odat, an Israeli Arab from Haifa, coming to Tarqumiya provided a welcome opportunity to feel useful, after more than seven months of helplessly watching the war in Gaza.
“I feel very empowered,” he said. “Now, finally, I have something to do to help. To help these people that are starving.”
As the peace activists sheltered from the fierce sun under palm trees at the centre of a roundabout, passing lorry drivers waved and sounded their horns in gratitude.
A small group of right-wing demonstrators arrived but were heavily outnumbered by Mr Patishi’s volunteers.
The two sides debated their differing positions in discussions that became increasingly heated.
Police officers stood nearby, ready to keep the opposing camps apart if it came to blows.
The peace activists have accused the police, under the control of National Security Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir, one of the most hardline members of Benjamin Netanyahu’s government, of doing little to stop the attacks.
They say there’s evidence that settlers are receiving help from the authorities and point to text messages in which groups organising attacks on aid lorries solicit and receive help from the police and army.

“A lot of times the police were in the areas when attacks occur, but they didn't have someone to push them to act,” Mr Patishi said.
“And it's very sad because the police should keep the law.”
As lorries drove by, two young women waved an Israeli flag but stopped short of trying to stop the traffic.
The two, who asked to be identified as Ariel and Shira (not their real names), explained why they felt it was important to be there.
“We would prefer that we don’t have to do the blockages, honestly,” Ariel said.
“I don’t like ransacking things. It’s not one of my favourite hobbies. But we prefer that to the death of our friends and family, which is what happens the longer this war drags on."
Both women recognised that there might be starvation in Gaza, but were convinced that Hamas was stealing and stockpiling aid rather than distributing it to people in need.
And they were not worried about what sort of image of Israel was being projected by the scenes of aid lorries being stopped, ransacked and set on fire.
“It’s time to stop caring what everybody else thinks,” Shira said, “and do what’s necessary to protect my life, to protect my family.”
As for the police, Ariel was dismissive.
“They aren’t going to interfere if they aren’t certain they’re able to shut it down,” she said. “They’re not going to start something they can’t finish.”
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cz9950n003yo
 
Netenyahu will be quite safe in the US of A as they aren't part of the ICJ either. As for international pressure as long as Israel has America's support they will carry on ignoring the rest of the world. International pressure has so far achieved nothing

In terms of Israel retaliating against Norway et al they don't have the power or influence to actually retaliate directly so they pick on Palestinians instead.
 

Dozens reported killed in Israeli strike on Rafah​

At least 45 people have been killed, including women and children, in an Israeli air strike on a camp for displaced Palestinians in the southern Gaza city of Rafah, the Hamas-run health ministry says.
Videos from the scene in the Tal al-Sultan area on Sunday night showed a large explosion and intense fires burning.
The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) said it had killed two senior Hamas officials and that it was reviewing reports that civilians were harmed as a result of the strike and fire it ignited.
Hours earlier, Hamas had fired eight rockets from Rafah towards Tel Aviv - the first long-range attacks on the central Israeli city since January.
Some 800,000 people have fled Rafah since the start of an Israeli ground operation there three weeks ago, but hundreds of thousands are still believed to be sheltering there.

The Palestinian Red Crescent said Sunday’s air strike targeted tents for displaced people near a UN facility in Tal al-Sultan, about 2km (1.2 miles) north-west of the centre of Rafah.
Graphic footage showed a number of structures ablaze next to a banner saying “Kuwaiti Peace Camp '1'”, as well as first responders and bystanders carrying several bodies.
"We were sitting at the door of the house safely. Suddenly we heard the sound of a missile,” witness Fadi Dukhan told Reuters news agency.
“We ran and found the street covered in smoke," he said, adding that he and others saw a girl and a young man who had been killed by the blast.
Abed Mohammed al-Attar said his brother and sister-in-law were killed, leaving their children as orphans.
"The [Israeli] army is a liar. There is no security in Gaza. There is no security, not for a child, an elderly man, or a woman,” he said.
The IDF said in a statement on Sunday that it had carried out an air strike in Tal al-Sultan that eliminated two Hamas leaders - Yassin Rabia, the chief of staff of the armed group’s fighters in the occupied West Bank, and Khaled Nagar, another senior official in the West Bank wing.
“The IDF is aware of reports indicating that as a result of the strike and fire that was ignited several civilians in the area were harmed. The incident is under review,” the statement added.
An initial statement insisted that the strike was “carried out against legitimate targets under international law, using precise munitions and on the basis of precise intelligence that indicated Hamas' use of the area”.
Israeli government spokesman Avi Hyman told the BBC: “It appears from initial reports that somehow a fire broke out, and that sadly took the lives of others."
In a speech, the IDF’s advocate-general - who is charged with making sure the military acts in accordance with the law - described the incident in Rafah as “very difficult” and said it “regrets any harm to uninvolved civilians during the war”.

The Hamas-run health ministry said on Monday afternoon that at least 45 people, including 23 women, children and elderly, had been killed in the strike on the camp.
A senior official in Gaza’s Hamas-run civil defence agency, Mohammad al-Mughayyir, meanwhile told AFP that the agency’s rescue workers had seen “charred bodies and dismembered limbs”, as well as “cases of amputations, wounded children, women and the elderly”.
Médecins Sans Frontières said overnight that 15 bodies and dozens of casualties had been brought to a trauma stabilisation point which the charity supports.
“We are horrified by this deadly event, which shows once again that nowhere is safe. We continue to call for an immediate and sustained ceasefire in Gaza,” MSF added.
The UN agency for Palestinian refugees, Unrwa - the largest humanitarian organisation in Gaza - described the reports as “horrifying” and said it was not able to establish full communication with its team on the ground in Rafah.
“Gaza is hell on earth. Images from last night are yet another testament to that,” said a post on X, formerly Twitter.
The head of the Hamas-run government media office, Ismail al-Thawabta, said the camp was away from recent military action and in a designated “safe zone”, to which the IDF had told civilians in eastern Rafah to flee.
French President Emmanuel Macron said he was "outraged" by what had happened.
"These operations must stop. There are no safe areas in Rafah for Palestinian civilians," he posted on X.
"I call for full respect for international law and an immediate ceasefire."
Qatar meanwhile warned that the strike could complicate its mediation efforts to reach a ceasefire and hostage release deal.

Earlier on Sunday air raid sirens sounded around Tel Aviv as central Israel came under attack by Hamas rockets, fired from close to Rafah.
The eight rockets were mostly intercepted by air defence systems or fell in fields. A house was damaged north of Tel Aviv.
The barrage highlighted the threat Hamas still poses to people across Israel, although there were no reports of injuries.
It also illustrates the challenges the IDF faces as it moves further into southern Gaza to oust Hamas from what it calls its “last major stronghold”.
The military wing of Hamas said it had acted in response to "the massacre of civilians".

Israeli military operations have continued in Rafah despite a ruling on Friday by the International Court of Justice (ICJ).
The UN's top court said that “in conformity with its obligations under the Genocide Convention, Israel must immediately halt its military offensive, and any other action in the Rafah Governorate, which may inflict on the Palestinian group in Gaza conditions of life that could bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part”.
Israeli officials said over the weekend that the wording did not rule out all military action. "Israel has not and will not carry out military operations in the Rafah area that create living conditions that could cause the destruction of the Palestinian civilian population, in whole or in part," National Security Adviser Tzachi Hanegbi said in a statement.
About 1.5 million people had been taking refuge in Rafah before 6 May, when Israel began what it called “targeted” ground operations in eastern areas of the city to destroy the last remaining Hamas battalions and rescue hostages it believes are being held there.
The UN estimates that more than 800,000 people have fled in response to orders from the IDF to evacuate to an “expanded humanitarian area” stretching from al-Mawasi, just north-west of Rafah, to the southern city of Khan Younis and the central town of Deir al-Balah.
Israel launched a military campaign in Gaza to destroy Hamas in response to the group's cross-border attack on southern Israel on 7 October, during which about 1,200 people were killed and 252 others were taken hostage.
At least 36,050 people have been killed in Gaza since then, according to the Hamas-run health ministry.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0kkqkngnedo
 

Netenhayu admitting an error? Maybe I was wrong and international pressure can make a difference. On the other hand Israel hasn't stopped attacking Rafah.

It is of course possible that Hamas commanders had arranged a meeting there but Israel's current definition of precision weapons seems to mean destroy everything in a hundred metre radius.
 
Actual images of beheaded babies from the airstrike on Rafah. I'm sure they'll get as much press coverage as the non-existent ones from the 7 October massacre
 
Netenhayu admitting an error?
Not really. It's performative. For example when aid workers were hit, Israel claimed they were very shocked and taking it seriously. Then it turned out the ambulance was Hamas, the UN is Hamas, etc.

We'll see similar justification in the days or weeks to come, I can nearly guarantee it.
 
I'm not accusing Netenhayu of sincerity and yes already Israel are saying small precision warheads may have accidentally detonated a Hamas ammunition stockpile. Nonetheless suggesting an error may have been made when no foreigners were killed is an unusual event.
 
These "admissions of error" constitute what is called a "limited hangout". The corresponding fictional trope is "confess to a lesser crime."

Admitting to mistakes and errors in this context simply serves to (try to) distract from the larger pattern into which these "errors" clearly fall.
 
Israel is apparently not invading Rafah and despite tanks arriving in the city centre its operations have been confined to the suburbs. Not sure Biden is fooling anyone.
 
Israel is apparently not invading Rafah and despite tanks arriving in the city centre its operations have been confined to the suburbs. Not sure Biden is fooling anyone.
There's no one to fool. The folks who vowed not to vote for Biden over Gaza were not persuaded by those delayed weapons shipments to Israel in response to Rafah anyway. So Biden apparently gained nothing by pressuring Israel and seemingly loses nothing by returning to the status quo.
 
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were not persuaded by those delayed weapons shipments to Israel in response to Rafah anyway.

We were "not persuaded" because the "delays" were just BS anyway.
So Biden apparently gained nothing by pressuring Israel and seemingly loses nothing by returning to the status quo.

He didn't really pressure Israel so the theory remains untested, but since actual pressure on Israel has never been on the table none of this is particularly surprising.

What is vaguely interesting his how Biden has been accused of being pro-Hamas by Zionists. I read an article in Tablet Magazine shortly after October 7th essentially accusing Biden of funding the Hamas attack by loosening sanctions on Iran.
 
There's no one to fool. The folks who vowed not to vote for Biden over Gaza were not persuaded by those delayed weapons shipments to Israel in response to Rafah anyway. So Biden apparently gained nothing by pressuring Israel and seemingly loses nothing by returning to the status quo.

I mean aside from the dead Palestinians
 

As press freedoms decline in Israel, people there see the war differently from the rest of the world​

Advocates say government restrictions, media self-censorship mean realities of Gaza war unseen in Israel

Israel's brief seizure of The Associated Press's video equipment last week may have proven to be a step too far in that government's limiting of press freedoms amid the war in Gaza.

As international condemnation mounted, Communications Minister Shlomo Karhi quickly reversed course and ordered the return of the AP's equipment, which was used to broadcast a live feed looking into the Gaza Strip from southern Israel. He cited a recent law that was just used to temporarily bar the news network Al Jazeera from operating in the country.

The move highlighted the Israeli government's attempts to control information — already a problem prior to the start of the war, said Anat Saragusti, press freedom director for the Union of Journalists in Israel.

"The extreme right-wing government of Israel, from the beginning of its term ... put the freedom of [the] press as a target," she told CBC News in an interview from Tel Aviv.

But the situation has dramatically worsened since the outset of the war. Both foreign and Israeli journalists are prohibited from entering Gaza without strictly controlled military embeds, while Palestinian journalists risk death to document what's happening on the ground.

More than 100 Palestinian journalists have been killed so far in Israel's eight-month offensive, according to the New York-based Committee to Protect Journalists (CPJ), though other estimates put that toll higher.

Press freedom advocates also warn of self-censorship among mainstream Israeli news outlets, saying they are failing to provide a full picture of the devastating war.

"The world sees a completely different war from the Israeli audience," Saragusti told CBC News in an interview from Tel Aviv. "This is very disturbing."

CBC News contacted Israel's Ministry of Communications for comment on claims that press freedom in the country is eroding and was referred to Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's office, but did not receive a response in time for publication.

A 'dangerous precedent'​

The Israeli government has had Al Jazeera — which Netanyahu has referred to as a "Hamas mouthpiece" and a "terror channel" — in its sights since the Hamas-led Oct. 7 attack on Israel and the start of Israeli military operations in Gaza.

The attack killed roughly 1,200 people, with about another 250 taken hostage, according to Israeli tallies. Israel's subsequent ground offensive in Gaza has killed over 35,000 people since then, by Palestinian counts.

Al Jazeera is primarily funded by the Qatari government and has been critical of Israel's operation in Gaza, from where it has reported around the clock throughout the war.

Israel adopted a new law in April that allowed it to temporarily ban Al Jazeera, and any other "foreign broadcast networks deemed a national security risk."

On May 5, the government shut down the network's operations in the country and blocked access to its Arabic and English channels and websites. The measure is in place for 45 days, but can be renewed.

Karhi shared video of police and government officials raiding Al Jazeera's office at a hotel in occupied East Jerusalem.

The minister cited the same law in confiscating the AP's equipment last week, saying the agency was supporting Al Jazeera — an AP client like thousands of other news organizations worldwide, including Israeli outlets — by providing it with the live video feed of northern Gaza.

CPJ was among the groups criticizing the Israeli government for the law and the Al Jazeera ban, calling it a "dangerous precedent."

"We objected to the law more specifically because of this broad use, where [the government] can essentially decide that it doesn't like certain kinds of content and censor them, which is not the actions of a democratic country," said Jodie Ginsberg, the organization's CEO.

Controlling the message​

Press freedom in Israel was already slipping before the war, said Saragusti, with political attacks on the media beginning shortly after Netanyahu formed his current government in 2022.

Kahri, the communications minister, wanted to shut down the country's public broadcaster, Kan, and has accused the media of left-wing bias. He has also proposed broadcast licensing and regulatory reforms that critics see as benefiting right-wing outlets whose coverage is favourable to the government.

"[Netanyahu] understands that controlling the minds of people is a tool to control the country," said Saragusti.

And in the context of the war, she said, he's very much in command of his own message, having avoided interviews with Israeli news outlets since Oct. 7 and either releasing pre-recorded video messages on his social media accounts or holding press conferences with limited questions.

Netanyahu has, however, granted two dozen interviews to foreign outlets, and only in English, according to the Israeli media monitor The Seventh Eye. That included a recent appearance on CNN, during which he denied dodging Israeli news outlets.

A 'one-sided war'​

From the outset, Saragusti anticipated a "one-sided war," with Israeli media not portraying the scale of the destruction and casualties in Gaza — and she said that's exactly what's happened.

She said most mainstream Israeli news outlets practise a great deal of self-censorship when it comes to the devastation in Gaza.

"The major media outlets don't bother to show what's going on in Gaza because they want to align with the general sentiment of the people that are still processing, you know, their own devastation [after the Oct.7 attacks]," she said.

That's part of the reason why many Israelis struggle to understand why so much of the international community is criticizing Israel, she said.

But the other issue, she said, is that the Israeli audience "sees only what the IDF [Israel Defence Forces] wants them to see," and not the "atrocities and the humanitarian crisis."

The IDF provides much of the footage and images that appear in Israeli media, she explained, and what footage is gathered by journalists embedded with its soldiers is subject to review by military censors.

In 2023, more than 600 articles by Israeli media outlets were barred, according to the Israeli news website +972 Magazine, which obtained the data from Israel's military censor via a freedom-of-information request. That was the most since the outlet began tracking the data in 2011. And more than 2,700 articles had been partially censored or redacted prior to publication.

Ginsberg said some degree of censorship isn't unusual in wartime, for example to protect military movements.

But it also serves another purpose, she said, especially when rules are drafted broadly.

"That enables governments to not just restrict security-sensitive information, but any critical coverage also of their own practices," she said.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/israel-gaza-war-press-freedom-1.7218365
 
We were "not persuaded" because the "delays" were just BS anyway.
That's circular reasoning. My theory is that if folks had been sufficiently "persuaded" and that showed up out in the polls and social media, etc., the "delays" and "pressure" would have been continued and/or escalated. Arguing that folks weren't sufficiently persuaded because the persuasion wasn't sufficient is... well... circular.
He didn't really pressure Israel
I disagree. The "really" is doing a lot of work in that statement. Pressure was undeniably, demonstrably applied. Folks being subjectively dissatisfied with the amount/nature of the pressure does not change that. Its also a sort of an illusory, self-serving and/or bad-faith position, because no matter what was done to pressure Israel, folks can always claim it wasn't enough, and continue to refuse to change their position by simply continually claiming that whatever is done "isn't enough", or "too little, too late" etc.

That the "pressure" was insufficient to stop the invasion is self-evident, however, and as I've said, the insufficiency can be attributed to the lack of domestic political gains as much as it can be attributed to a lack of initial commitment to the effort. In other words, from the Biden campaign/advisors perspective... the claims that folks would support Biden if he leveraged US military aid to Israel to force Israel to stop the invasion... were just BS... there was never any good -faith willingness to do so.
so the theory remains untested
That depends... As I've said, there is alot of accusations of BS to go around.
What is vaguely interesting his how Biden has been accused of being pro-Hamas by Zionists. I read an article in Tablet Magazine shortly after October 7th essentially accusing Biden of funding the Hamas attack by loosening sanctions on Iran.
Which tends to undermine the argument that Biden wasn't pushing against Israel's invasion... if he was pissing off Zionists so much that they are accusing him of supporting the other side...
 
Arguing that folks weren't sufficiently persuaded because the persuasion wasn't sufficient is... well... circular.
Interpreting something as circular because you have your own theory you want to promote doesn't actually make the thing circular. Lexi said "we", which means there is a specific connection to the rejection of the presented "persuasion". It's not just "folks". Which I also agree was nonsense / a fig leaf / "insert descriptive paraphrasing here".

Biden did not seriously attempt to persuade Israel. We know this. Everyone knows this. The only people who don't know this are the people trying to rationalise their own support for Biden in face of mounting evidence of atrocity given that it's Election Season in the US once more. And I'm sure the same people are going to blame the people who didn't vote, instead of blaming Biden, so this is all going to go nowhere anyway. If you want circular, this is it.
Which tends to undermine the argument that Biden wasn't pushing against Israel's invasion... if he was pissing off Zionists so much that they are accusing him of supporting the other side...
Incorrect. They'll accuse anyone of supporting the other side. They call Jewish people who don't agree with the Zionist position fake Jews. The threshold for accusing someone of being in league with Hamas is anything short of vocal, full-throated support for what Israel is currently doing in Gaza (and the West Bank, and Lebanon to boot).
 
That's circular reasoning. My theory is that if folks had been sufficiently "persuaded" and that showed up out in the polls and social media, etc., the "delays" and "pressure" would have been continued and/or escalated. Arguing that folks weren't sufficiently persuaded because the persuasion wasn't sufficient is... well... circular.

Pressure was undeniably, demonstrably applied.

Pressure was undeniably, demonstrably not applied. The performance of pressure is not real pressure. That's been my entire point here. Real pressure was never on the table, either due to Biden's brain being like 40% liquid at this point or due to the fact that much stronger domestic political forces support Israel's campaign than oppose it. All we were ever gonna get was these chickenhorsehocky "leaked" stories about how angry Biden was about what Israel was doing, while Biden simultaneously went to every length, including circumventing US law preventing the delivery of arms to pereptrator of crime against humanity, to ensure that "nothing would fundamentally change" in regard to US support for Israel. Biden's policy has led to numerous resignations from the State
Department for this very reason. (I guess you have no choice but to interpret those resignations as self-serving, as those former staffers will go on to reap the massive social and career benefits that come from being an outspoken critic of Israel in the US?)

In other words, from the Biden campaign/advisors perspective... the claims that folks would support Biden if he leveraged US military aid to Israel to force Israel to stop the invasion... were just BS... there was never any good -faith willingness to do so.

And this would be self-serving horsehockey from these disgusting creatures who are complicit in a genocide.

The politics of this are also incredibly self-defeating btw...the Biden administration is burning political capital to support an Israeli government that will do everything possible to see Trump win in November. As an example, if/when Netanyahu addresses Congress it will be an election campaign speech for Trump. But Biden gave the dude a bear hug on October 18th. And the bigger picture here is Biden trying to "signal anger" with Israel is never going to convince anyone who actually cares about Palestinian lives (as only real action would do that) but it does make him look totally weak and incompetent, which is probably going to hurt him in November much more than the substance of his policy toward Israel will.

Which tends to undermine the argument that Biden wasn't pushing against Israel's invasion... if he was pissing off Zionists so much that they are accusing him of supporting the other side...

No, it just proves Tablet Magazine will publish your articles even if you are a fascist lunatic.
 
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