War with Iran and its consequences

[Gelion]

It seems as though Britain and US are "considering an option of a strike against Iran" if it doesn't stop enriching Uranium. To me this situation is one mistake away from war.
In your view:
- How would the war with Iran take place? When?
- What would be its conseuences in the short or long run?

Discuss.

 

[Azale]

We should just get the Israelis to pull the trigger on thier nuclear processing plants like we did last time

Seriously, I could not support this war. I supported both the Afghan & Iraq wars and still do, but overstretching our resources like this and underestimating just how much of a biznatch it would be to fight the Iranians would be a grave mistake.

 

[ComradeDavo]

I'll tell you one consequence if the UK did go to war with Iran - no more Labour government.

 

[Fox Mccloud]

I would only support a war with Iran if they fired a missle at Iraq, Afghanistan, or Israel.

 

[Chaos_BF1942]

I would only support a war with Iran if they fired a missle at Iraq, Afghanistan, or Israel.

So if they fire one at any other place in the world it ok (J/King)

As of right now a war with Iran wouldn't work. It would be just overstretching our military. But we should not let Iran get nukes, maybe try to get the UN members to stop trading wtih them.

 

[Alpine Trooper]

Limited war... being the bombing of Iranian nuclear facilities with air power appears to be the general consensus of the world. And I would support that, but noting further, yet.

 

[MobBoss]

If they dont comply with the current UN call to end enrichment, I highly doubt the USA and Britain will have to go it alone to stop their nuclear capability.

 

[GenMarshall]

No Wars in Iran. We already have enough entanglements in the unjust war in Iraq. We still have troops in Afghansitstan looking in caves for a decomposing body of Osama Bin Laden.

 

[MobBoss]

No Wars in Iran. We already have enough entanglements in the unjust war in Iraq. We still have troops in Afghansitstan looking in caves for a decomposing body of Osama Bin Laden.

That in itself is not a good enough reason to let a fanatic country like Iran have access to nuclear weapons.

If this were the case, I would be in favor of a total pullout in Afghanistan and Iraq in order send troops/equipment to prevent Iran from gaining nuclear weapons.

 

[Inqvisitor]

We need to seriously get all our troops out of the Middle East now. Get them back here and march on Washington because the Bush propaganda machine is really starting to take its toll on the nation. Hopefully Iran does have the weapons necessary to defend themselves and their nation against global imperialist aggression.

 

[jamiethearcher]

We should just get the Israelis to pull the trigger on thier nuclear processing plants like we did last time

I have absolutly no problem with this option - and you know the Israelies would be happy to do it.

 

[GenMarshall]

That in itself is not a good enough reason to let a fanatic country like Iran have access to nuclear weapons.

I dont want them to get their hands on yellow cake, plutonium, and uranium. But war is not an answer. The only way to prevent them from getting their hands on nuclear materials is to make sure that none enter the country. We already have an trade embargo placed aggainst them.

There are other non-war alternative to prevent Iran from gaining their hands on nukes. There is no justification for going to war against Iran.

If this were the case, I would be in favor of a total pullout in Afghanistan and Iraq in order send troops/equipment to prevent Iran from gaining nuclear weapons.

I am more infavor of a total pull out of the Middle East, period.

 

[ComradeDavo]

If it comes down to it, it makes far more sense to insert special ops teams to take out the weapons facilities then to actually bomb/invade the country.

 

[North King]

Let's see. What would a war against Iran look like?

Well, the USA has bases in Iraq and Afghanistan, and essentially control of the Persian Gulf and straits of Hormuz. Even though Russia has ties to Iran (and thus will probably not support us), we essentially have all bases covered; Iran is surrounded.

The key from the US point of view is to minimize American troop involvement and limit it to an air campaign. Thus, we would probably do our best to smash the Iranians from the air, but since I doubt that would knock them out, a war on land is going to happen regardless.

Now, I think the best source of an ally in this struggle is Pakistan. Assuming we were to support Pakistan, they would probably make significant gains against the Iranians, though they would also take heavy casualties. "Coalition" forces might advance from Afghanistan, but since the US is probably not going to get a full commitment from any nation, it would be doubtful they would support another war... We won't advance very far from Afghanistan.

An attack by the Iranians into Iraq will force the US to intervene, and a large mixed armored and infantry force will be pressed against them; it would be justified by the "Iranians attacked first" argument that comes from their attack into Iraq. We could probably take many of the major oil fields, though guerilla resistance will be heavy, the Iranian military will fight fanatically for every inch of ground, and I think some "excess Soviet equipment" acquired on the "black market" (read: Russia supplying Iran) will end up in their hands...

I don't know if the US drive will actually reach Tehran, but it might not need to; the Iranian government might be toppled by the Westernized youths or a military coup.

Don't go celebrating then, either, though, for a more Westernized Iran would still be infuriated at the US troops on its soil, still fight fanatically, and probably have the backing of most of the world.

The prospects are that the US will certainly not lose the war conventionally speaking, nor will it lose much of Iraq, but it will be a stalemate militarily, and a vast loss diplomatically and politically. Look for the Dems to win the next election if the US goes to war with Iran.

 

[Fox Mccloud]

So if they fire one at any other place in the world it ok (J/King)

no, but Iraq, Afghanistan, and Israel are our allies, and if they hit them, I would feel we should intervene. At least if they hit India for some reason, India can defend itself.

I dont want them to get their hands on yellow cake, plutonium, and uranium. But war is not an answer. The only way to prevent them from getting their hands on nuclear materials is to make sure that none enter the country.

How do you propose we stop them from mining their own uranium.

There are other non-war alternative to prevent Iran from gaining their hands on nukes. There is no justification for going to war against Iran.

You won't be saying that If Israel gets nuked, will you?

I am more infavor of a total pull out of the Middle East, period.

Me too, when the job is done

 

[JohnRM]

The most immediate action would be a variably-sized airstrike against Iranian Nuclear Facilities and possibly air-defense sites, command and control, and defense industry. Any further action would be too difficult to predict.

 

[GenMarshall]

How do you propose we stop them from mining their own uranium.

Dont care about their uranium stores.

You won't be saying that If Israel gets nuked, will you?

If Iran becomes like Nazi Germany and starts to invade their neighbors for territorial conquest. Then that would be a different story. Right now, there are no justifications to invade Iran because they dont have any asparations for world domination.

Me too, when the job is done

For me, I want them out, regardless if the job is done or not. Let them fend for themselves, its clear that the Iraqis dont want us there, so its best just to abandon them and let them fend for themselves.

 

[Fox Mccloud]

The most immediate action would be a variably-sized airstrike against Iranian Nuclear Facilities and possibly air-defense sites, command and control, and defense industry. Any further action would be too difficult to predict.

What kind of airforce does Iran have?

 

[JohnRM]

What kind of airforce does Iran have?

A highly laugable one.

 

[GenMarshall]

What kind of airforce does Iran have?

A couple of paper airplanes .