War with Iran and its consequences

MobBoss said:
:eek: :eek: :eek: Even the Iranians claim they have an enrichment program in place and are diligently pursuing it, even against the desires of the UN.

I am starting to wonder about your sanity.:crazyeye:
And what is wrong with the Iranians having an "enrichment program in place" that justifies yet another war?

Since when does the UN have any credibility about anything?
 
Inqvisitor said:
Since when does the UN have any credibility about anything?
Never, they all sit on their rumps like their predicessors, The League of Nations did and look what happened. World War II started.
 
Fox McCloud said:
It was a reference to the Dubai Ports deal. Since Bush is always wrong, and he wants to do business with the Arabs, I guess your against us dealing with Arabs too?
I am only against trading with the fundamentalist nutjobs Muslims that want "death to America". The Dubai Ports are not a good idea because it will lead to the trafficing of Terrorists into thoes Containers and into our country.


Fox McCloud said:
Gotcha! Then you would agree with Bush on something!
So long as he is not a Deacon or a Priest in my parish, so long as he is not a Bishop in my Diocese or Archdiocese, so long as he is not a Cardinal for my region, and so long as he is not Pope. Then I dont care if he converts into Catholicism.
 
I doubt it will be possible to really invade Iran, most of our threats are just that, threats. What we ought to do is let them get the nukes, but let them know publicly that if they so much as lift a finger against the Israeli's we will nuke the crap out of them. If everyone in Iran knows this, their military will probably refuse to carry out any attacks that will lead to the destruction of their homeland. For all their rhetoric, I doubt the Iranians are suicidal, and at this point, I doubt it is politically feasible to invade them.
 
CivGeneral said:
I am only against trading with the fundamentalist nutjobs Muslims that want "death to America". The Dubai Ports are not a good idea because it will lead to the trafficing of Terrorists into thoes Containers and into our country.

Sigh. Just so you know many of our ports in our own country and overseas are managed by foreign companies and managed very well. There is simply no evidence what-so-ever that the Dubai port deal would have led to terrorist trafficing via shipping containers.

So long as he is not a Deacon or a Priest in my parish, so long as he is not a Bishop in my Diocese or Archdiocese, so long as he is not a Cardinal for my region, and so long as he is not Pope. Then I dont care if he converts into Catholicism.

Hmmmm. Pope George I....kind of has a ring to it. I think we have found his next career.:lol:
 
Evil Tyrant said:
I doubt it will be possible to really invade Iran, most of our threats are just that, threats. What we ought to do is let them get the nukes, but let them know publicly that if they so much as lift a finger against the Israeli's we will nuke the crap out of them. If everyone in Iran knows this, their military will probably refuse to carry out any attacks that will lead to the destruction of their homeland. For all their rhetoric, I doubt the Iranians are suicidal, and at this point, I doubt it is politically feasible to invade them.

Sooo......by threatening punishment to suicide bombers do we lessen their willingness to kill?

No.

How do you threaten a country like Iran with nuclear retaliation when they dont care about living as long as they destroy their enemies?:rolleyes:
 
MobBoss said:
Sigh. Just so you know many of our ports in our own country and overseas are managed by foreign companies and managed very well. There is simply no evidence what-so-ever that the Dubai port deal would have led to terrorist trafficing via shipping containers.

Thats just so funny. No seriously thats hilarious
Especially given the Bush administrations record on intelliegence and evidence.
 
MobBoss said:
Sigh. Just so you know many of our ports in our own country and overseas are managed by foreign companies and managed very well. There is simply no evidence what-so-ever that the Dubai port deal would have led to terrorist trafficing via shipping containers.
Oh there is a possibility of terrorists trafficing via shipping containers if an Arab company has control of one of the ports. Realy, we should be managing our own ports in our own country.

MobBoss said:
Hmmmm. Pope George I....kind of has a ring to it. I think we have found his next career.:lol:
Being married automaticly disqualifys him for Pope. The Catholic Church only accepts unmarried males for the priesthood. Also what disqualifys him, is that he is not Catholic.
 
CivGeneral said:
Oh there is a possibility of terrorists trafficing via shipping containers if an Arab company has control of one of the ports. Realy, we should be managing our own ports in our own country.

So your willing to discriminate against Arabs because George Bush doesn't want to discriminate against them because you can not admit he can do anything right. Gotcha again.
 
CivGeneral said:
So long as he is not a Deacon or a Priest in my parish, so long as he is not a Bishop in my Diocese or Archdiocese, so long as he is not a Cardinal for my region, and so long as he is not Pope. Then I dont care if he converts into Catholicism.

It would be hilarious to see you reaction if the Pope make W the Catholic leader of America. :D
 
Attack Iran even with surgical strikes and lose Iraq.

Don't forget, many many of the Iraqi Shi'ite politicians and clerics have very strong ties with Iran, the other major Shi'ite centre in the world. In fact, al-Sistani is Iranian. Many of them are funded by Iran. Some of the politicians and their militas spent years in exile in Iran when Hussein was trying to kill them.

While this doesn't mean that they'd be willing to take orders from Iran, it does mean they have strong almost family (actually in many cases, actual family) ties with Iran. I doubt that any sort of attack of Iran, even surgical strikes will go down very well with the Iraqi Shi'ites.

The Americans have already managed to earn the hatred and enmity of the Sunnis. By attacking Iran they'd turn the Shi'ites against them too.

Not that I'm expecting Americans to actually realise things like the fact, that people actually *gasp* think differently from them i.e. there are some people in the world who not only think the Iranians are not evil but are actually good friends with them.
 
Fox Mccloud said:
It would be hilarious to see you reaction if the Pope make W the Catholic leader of America. :D

That seems to me like borderline trolling against Catholicism. Would you like it if another person said that seeing your reaction to having your beliefs trashed would be "hilarious"?
 
Fox Mccloud said:
So your willing to discriminate against Arabs because George Bush doesn't want to discriminate against them because you can not admit he can do anything right. Gotcha again.
I dont discriminate against Arabs. George Bush cant do anything right. He sat in a school reading about goats during 9/11, he was in vacation when Katrina happened, Bush was never in his office during his first months as president. The bottom line is that Bush cannot do anything right.

Fox McCloud said:
It would be hilarious to see you reaction if the Pope make W the Catholic leader of America.
That would never happen beccause...
1. George Bush is a Methodist
2. I doubt the Pope would have the power to make anyone a Catholic leader in any nation, especialy a protestant.
3. As North King stated, its borderlineing on trolling against people who hold the Catholic faith.
 
Fox Mccloud said:
It would be hilarious to see you reaction if the Pope make W the Catholic leader of America. :D
There is no such thing as "the Catholic leader of America." Catholics only need to be loyal to God and to Rome. "W" being a mass murderer and greedy corporate extortionist doesn't help his case there either.
 
North King said:
That seems to me like borderline trolling against Catholicism. Would you like it if another person said that seeing your reaction to having your beliefs trashed would be "hilarious"?

It wasn't anything against Catholicism, It was only trying to prove the ridiculousity (word I made up) of his "Bush is always wrong" posts.

If I've insulted CivGeneral's chosen faith, I'm sorry, it was not my intent.
 
CivGeneral said:
I dont discriminate against Arabs. George Bush cant do anything right. He sat in a school reading about goats during 9/11,

Because he didn't want to scare the kids. In fact Many Bush supporters point out that according to The Washington Times correspondent Bill Sammon, Bush's Press Secretary Ari Fleischer was in the back of the classroom holding a pad on which he had written "DON'T SAY ANYTHING YET." It's pathetic how you try to dehumanize him for everything he does. :(

he was in vacation when Katrina happened,

He also declared it a national disaster before it hit.

Bush was never in his office during his first months as president.

I will once again say that It's pathetic how you try to dehumanize him for everything he does. :(

The bottom line is that Bush cannot do anything right.

Don't you get it? Al Gore underestimated him. John Kerry underestimated him. They both lost their elections. Now you still havn't learned your lesson, and you still are underestimating him. :wallbash: I will say it again: It's pathetic how you try to dehumanize him for everything he does. :(

That would never happen beccause...
1. George Bush is a Methodist

he can convert

2. I doubt the Pope would have the power to make anyone a Catholic leader in any nation, especialy a protestant.

I meant like the prime Bishop of America or something.



Anyway, I just meant IF it did. You know, hypothetical situation?
 
Fox Mccloud said:
Don't you get it? Al Gore underestimated him. John Kerry underestimated him. They both lost their elections. Now you still havn't learned your lesson, and you still are underestimating him. :wallbash: I will say it again: It's pathetic how you try to dehumanize him for everything he does. :(

Bush is incrediably poltically savvey. He has excellent charm, great at political maipulation (thou I think rove can take most of the credit).

A pity this compentence dosnt carry over to international politics, domestic economy and military planning.
 
Fox Mccloud said:
So your willing to discriminate against Arabs because George Bush doesn't want to discriminate against them because you can not admit he can do anything right. Gotcha again.

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FriendlyFire said:
A pity this compentence dosnt carry over to international politics,

I'm going to have to admit. You are right here. It's also a pity that his attempts to patch up relations with the Arabs have also met with opposition.

domestic economy

According to The Factbook, the US GDP grew 3.5% in 2005. The EU as a whole grew 1.7%, and Japan grew 2.1%. Not up to China and India's growth, but it sounds like the US economy is doing fairly well to me.

and military planning.

You mean the insurgency in Iraq? Insurgencies can easily last years, regardless of who is in command.
 
Fox Mccloud said:
Because he didn't want to scare the kids. In fact Many Bush supporters point out that according to The Washington Times correspondent Bill Sammon, Bush's Press Secretary Ari Fleischer was in the back of the classroom holding a pad on which he had written "DON'T SAY ANYTHING YET." It's pathetic how you try to dehumanize him for everything he does. :(

He also declared it a national disaster before it hit.

I will once again say that It's pathetic how you try to dehumanize him for everything he does. :(

Don't you get it? Al Gore underestimated him. John Kerry underestimated him. They both lost their elections. Now you still havn't learned your lesson, and you still are underestimating him. :wallbash: I will say it again: It's pathetic how you try to dehumanize him for everything he does. :(
Bush is still a blumbering fool. No matter how much the Republicans and the other Bush supporters sugar coat it, Bush is still an incompetant fool who cant do anything right.

Fox McCloud said:
I meant like the prime Bishop of America or something.
Perhaps you dont understand. The Catholic priesthood requires that a male should be single, Single as in unmarried. If he does convert, he cannot enter the priesthood by the fact that he is married. To enter the priesthood, one must be male and single. The Bishop is part of the priesthood. Also, Bush already ruined his chances on that by being a corporate greed hound and a mass murderer, that alone wont help his case.
 
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