War with Iran and its consequences

[MobBoss]

We need to seriously get all our troops out of the Middle East now. Get them back here and march on Washington because the Bush propaganda machine is really starting to take its toll on the nation. Hopefully Iran does have the weapons necessary to defend themselves and their nation against global imperialist aggression.

Sigh. Iran developing an enrichment program is not Bush propaganda. Or do you choose to totally ignore the United Nations demand and deadline for Iran to halt its enrichment program?

Dont let your hatred of Bush blind you to legitimate concerns like Iran and its enrichment program.

And btw, if Iran took over the world, your type would be the very first in line to have your head lopped off. I highly suggest you rethink your comment about Iran.

 

[JohnRM]

Estimated Iranian Air Forces...

Mirage F1 EQ 10
F-14 A Tomcat 25
F-4 D/E Phantom II 31
F-5 A/B Tiger II 45
F-7 M Airgarde (chinesische MiG-21) 24
Su-25 K Frogfoot 7
Su-24 MK Fencer 23
Su-22 M Fitter 35
MiG-29 A 35
MiG-23 BN 12
Azarakhsh - 6

 

[Fox Mccloud]

Dont care about their uranium stores.

Then they would still develop nukes and our sanctions would mean nothing.

If Iran becomes like Nazi Germany and starts to invade their neighbors for territorial conquest. Then that would be a different story. Right now, there are no justifications to invade Iran because they dont have any asparations for world domination.

Maybe not world domintion, but wiping Israel of the map is an asperation I don't like.

For me, I want them out, regardless if the job is done or not. Let them fend for themselves, its clear that the Iraqis dont want us there, so its best just to abandon them and let them fend for themselves.

Where is you source? Fact is Iraqis are optimistic of the future.

 

[The Tollan]

What exactly would occur if a nuclear armed Iran sponsored terrorism against Israel and/or certain Western states?

 

[MobBoss]

I dont want them to get their hands on yellow cake, plutonium, and uranium. But war is not an answer.

What do you suggest? Harsh language? Rolled up newspaper?

The only way to prevent them from getting their hands on nuclear materials is to make sure that none enter the country. We already have an trade embargo placed aggainst them.

Uhm....their enrichment program is being done in house and is not reliant (to my knowledge) of out-of-country shipments.

There are other non-war alternative to prevent Iran from gaining their hands on nukes. There is no justification for going to war against Iran.

I disagree. I think a nuclear Iran would be bad for you, me and a lot of people all over the world.

 

[Fox Mccloud]

Estimated Iranian Air Forces...

Mirage F1 EQ 10
F-14 A Tomcat 25
F-4 D/E Phantom II 31
F-5 A/B Tiger II 45
F-7 M Airgarde (chinesische MiG-21) 24
Su-25 K Frogfoot 7
Su-24 MK Fencer 23
Su-22 M Fitter 35
MiG-29 A 35
MiG-23 BN 12
Azarakhsh - 6

Hmmm, they might be able to defend themselves for a while.

 

[GenMarshall]

Sigh. Iran developing an enrichment program is not Bush propaganda. Or do you choose to totally ignore the United Nations demand and deadline for Iran to halt its enrichment program?

Most certanly Bush propaganda since all of what Bush is saying is backed by his lies. "Iraq has WMDs" - Bush, yeah tell me another one Mr. Bush when we went over there and there were no sread of evidence in Iraq.

Dont let your hatred of Bush blind you to legitimate concerns like Iran and its enrichment program.

I already hate Bush and whatever he says is just lies and not the truth. I wonder if Bush has Baghdad Bob stashed away in his closet .

And btw, if Iran took over the world, your type would be the very first in line to have your head lopped off. I highly suggest you rethink your comment about Iran.

Cut my head of for what?! For being a Catholic? One way ticket to the Vatican City for me .

 

[Fox Mccloud]

And btw, if Iran took over the world, your type would be the very first in line to have your head lopped off. I highly suggest you rethink your comment about Iran.

Actually, people like us would be the first to loose our heads.

 

[MobBoss]

Estimated Iranian Air Forces...

Mirage F1 EQ 10
F-14 A Tomcat 25
F-4 D/E Phantom II 31
F-5 A/B Tiger II 45
F-7 M Airgarde (chinesische MiG-21) 24
Su-25 K Frogfoot 7
Su-24 MK Fencer 23
Su-22 M Fitter 35
MiG-29 A 35
MiG-23 BN 12
Azarakhsh - 6

Now how about of an estimated "operational" Iranian Air force?

I can pretty much tell you their F14 are non-operational as are most of their more modern aircraft....unless of course the Russians have been sending them replacement parts and techs to keep them up.

 

[MobBoss]

Actually, people like us would be the first to loose our heads.

Nope nope. We would have died in the war protecting that idiot.

 

[Fox Mccloud]

Nope nope. We would have died in the war protecting that idiot.

Protecting lots of idiots.

I don't see why the Iranians would cut his head off first, though. He seemed pro-Iranian, saying:

Hopefully Iran does have the weapons necessary to defend themselves and their nation against global imperialist aggression.

 

[MobBoss]

Most certanly Bush propaganda since all of what Bush is saying is backed by his lies. "Iraq has WMDs" - Bush, yeah tell me another one Mr. Bush when we went over there and there were no sread of evidence in Iraq.

My god, get over it already. We are talking Iran, not Iraq and EVEN THE UN IS CONCERNED. WAKE UP. As I said before, your hated of Bush has blinded you to a totally legitimate concern!!!!! Sheesh.

 

[North King]

What do you suggest? Harsh language? Rolled up newspaper?

Have you ever conducted even mock diplomatic negotiations? Because there's a lot more to it then "harsh language" that can be easily ignored.

 

[Inqvisitor]

And btw, if Iran took over the world, your type would be the very first in line to have your head lopped off. I highly suggest you rethink your comment about Iran.

The only reason Iran would lopping anyone's head off is in defence if their country got an Iraq-style imperialist invasion. What indication is there that Iran has any such global aspirations?

 

[Fox Mccloud]

I already hate Bush and whatever he says.

So if he said "It's a nice beutiful spring day" you would disagree even if Bush was right.

 

[GenMarshall]

My god, get over it already. We are talking Iran, not Iraq and EVEN THE UN IS CONCERNED. WAKE UP. As I said before, your hated of Bush has blinded you to a totally legitimate concern!!!!! Sheesh.

Its just pure Bush propaganda just to expand his influence and power just to aquire more territories for the US. Bush lied to many times for me to believe in him. There are no Iranian Uranium Enrichment programs, there are no Iranian Nukes. If we invade, it would be like history repeating itself once again.

Its best that we just leave Iran alone and let them tend to their own bussness.

So if he said "It's a nice beutiful spring day" you would disagree even if Bush was right.

Bush is always wrong. I would still disagree with him if he said that, even if I am in Seattle, WA and its raining cats and dogs.

 

[Fox Mccloud]

Bush is always wrong. I would still disagree with him if he said that, even if I am in Seattle, WA and its raining cats and dogs.

then you are a haetful bigoted person.

I guess you are raceist against Arabs too, then.

edit: If Bush converted to Catholicism would you be convinced Catholicism is false?

 

[MobBoss]

There are no Iranian Uranium Enrichment programs, there are no Iranian Nukes. If we invade, it would be like history repeating itself once again.

Even the Iranians claim they have an enrichment program in place and are diligently pursuing it, even against the desires of the UN.

I am starting to wonder about your sanity.

 

[GenMarshall]

then you are a haetful bigoted person.

I only hate Bush's guts and only see him as a big fat lying meglomaniac monkey

I guess you are raceist against Arabs too, then.

What do Arabs have to do with this?

If Bush believed in Catholicism would you be convinced Catholicism is false?

No, I would still believe that Catholicism is true. Even if Bush converts (which I highly doubt). He is not going to be a Deacon, Priest, Bishop, or Pope so it does not make any difference. (Plus Bush is not elegable for priesthood anyway because he is married)

Even the Iranians claim they have an enrichment program in place and are diligently pursuing it, even against the desires of the UN.

The Iranians are saying that just to gain media and political attention.

I am starting to wonder about your sanity.

I am starting to wonder about the sanity of the people who voted for Bush .

 

[Fox Mccloud]

I only hate Bush's guts and only see him as a big fat lying meglomaniac monkey

This only reinforces what I just said

What do Arabs have to do with this?

It was a reference to the Dubai Ports deal. Since Bush is always wrong, and he wants to do business with the Arabs, I guess your against us dealing with Arabs too?

No, I would still believe that Catholicism is true. Even if Bush converts (which I highly doubt).

Gotcha! Then you would agree with Bush on something!






I must leave now. I'll get back to this debate later.